To: discostu
But, the federal gov't isn't maintaining a list of people who don't want door-to-door solicitors. And, aren't the no-solicitation laws state laws?
I would never argue against a law restricting companies from calling someone who has told them specifically never to call again - that should fall under "harrassment". But, with the DNC list, companies are restricted from even making the first call.
Those telemarketers are salespeople, and the sales staff is the heart of every company. Behind a great many products and services is an obnoxious salesman in a bad suit. They may be annoying people, but they're necessary for many businesses to survive.
BTW, opening the mail and looking at it, then having to keep it around like clutter until recycling day is what I consider a hassle, especially with all the junk mail we receive. It's endless.
To: Tired of Taxes
And the telemarketers were maintaining their own do not call lists, but they abused the system. Also remember most telemarketing calls cross state lines (they do that to reduce the chance of the caller and recipient knowing each other) so it's tough for the states to handle. And finally given the lack of physical pressence it's a little tough for the private citizen to handle things on their own, I can detain an illegal solicistor until the cops get there, if a telemarketer violates my request to not be called I don't have that luxury.
If the companies had honored the intent of the law and made it easy for people to get off their call lists thing wouldn't have escalated up to the DNC. Because they couldn't play nice on that first call they've lost that priviledge. Which arguably they never should have had, when I post a No Solicistors sign salesmen don't get a one time exception to make sure I mean them.
You're deliberately obfuscating the issue. No one denies the importance of making sales, the discussion here is the legality of the method. Cold call telemarketers exist at the sufference of the person leasing the phone service. Continuing to harass the person after they've requested not to IS illegal regardless of the method of harassment. There are specific laws that have been in place for quite a long time on this.
Again obfuscation, the point isn't whether or not junkmail is annoying, is it theft? And the answer is no because you don't pay to receive it. Since 95% of junkmail is obviously junkmail without you opening it I think you're overstating things trying to appeal to emotion. Not working here.
191 posted on
08/12/2003 1:41:58 PM PDT by
discostu
(the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
To: Tired of Taxes
But, the federal gov't isn't maintaining a list of people who don't want door-to-door solicitors. True, the government could order the phone companies to rewire the phone system so that each caller would receive a message posted by the recipient without ringing the recipient's phone (making it work more like a NO SOLICITORS sign). The DNC list is less intrusive.
247 posted on
08/13/2003 7:09:05 AM PDT by
steve-b
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