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National Review Online ^ | 8-11-03 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/11/2003 7:00:57 AM PDT by Let's Roll

The home front is more worrisome than the battlefield.

Democratic critics keep deconstructing federal reports about intelligence lapses that might have led to the tragedy of September 11. While they fault the administration — in some cases correctly — for an apparent lack of vigilance, they do not dare explore the real heart of the disaster.

The 9/11 tragedy was not due simply to bureaucratic inertia or to some sort of oil conspiracy that overlooked criminal behavior of the sheiks of the petroleum states (though all that no doubt played a role), but was far more a dividend of political correctness. If Senator Graham is sincerely worried about our lethal oversights and mistakes, he should examine the orthodoxies and policies that have precluded the according of special scrutiny to radical Islamists in mosques and religious schools across America. Most operated with impunity for decades under the exemptions provided by the false gods of "diversity" and "multiculturalism."

Had Mr. Atta and his fellow killers been arrested on probable cause, their Islamic haunts raided, and assorted charities and fundraisers shut down on September 10, 2001 — cries of racism, profiling, and McCarthyism would have drowned out the purportedly farfetched excuses that such preemptory FBI raids had in fact saved thousands in Manhattan.

After a long shootout precipitated by American troops who tried to approach a private residence in Mosul, the sons of Saddam were killed in a deadly firefight. Several of our own troops were wounded. Almost immediately, columnists and congressmen — Mr. Rangel was especially visible in this regard — implied that we had engaged in targeted assassinations. Indeed, we had apparently not even made an attempt to provide due process!

That trapped mass murderers do not always understand the logic of jurisprudence was apparently left unmentioned. Again, the first impression left was that we, not they, were somehow at fault. Few of these pundits opined that the shooting of such monsters will ipso facto ensure that they can never again butcher and torture thousands of innocents — or energize the death squads that are currently blowing apart American youths.

More refined humanists — Europeans especially — also objected to the publication of ghoulish pictures of the Husseins' bloated corpses as something of a throwback to our barbaric past. Apparently, the filmed corpses were the electronic equivalent of displaying the riddled remains of desperados in pine boxes on the main street of the frontier towns of the Old West.

What was never mentioned was that the Pentagon was between a rock and a hard place. Withholding the photos would either fuel conspiracies that we had faked the deaths, or suggest an arrogance on our part, a sense that we somehow operated on a higher and more rarified moral plane than the Iraqi victims of such beasts. On the other hand, releasing the pictures not only suggested to Western elites a sort of retrograde barbarity; it was also interpreted as gloating over the defeated. The subtler added that we were guilty of sacrilege in light of Islamic burial customs — and on and on.

Consequently, no critics offered any advice on how to satisfy the mutually contradictory demands of both American and Iraqi societies — only a generalized grunt or two that it was, somehow, "not right."

That the graphic image of Mussolini hanging from his heels or Ceausescu lying contorted in the dirt had left a powerful impression on their adherents — and eclipsed the romance of their once-megalomaniac balcony addresses — was forgotten. Apparently, humans are now considered to be immune to the shock — and ensuing salutary lessons — of seeing once-terrifying killers not merely dead, but grotesquely so.

The tragedy of nearly 100 American soldiers dying through terrorist assassinations and bombings in postbellum Iraq is always on all our minds. Yet the current hysteria provides few possible reasons why those who would never face us in war are now able to shoot at us in "peace."

The cause is at least in part attributable to the peculiar nature of contemporary war. The so-called Sunni triangle is not merely a stronghold of Saddamites; it's also far to the north from the nexus of the original invasion. Thus it is a region that simply capitulated rather than being overrun — merely on rumors that the Americans were approaching from far to the south.

Yet had the 4th Armored Division from Turkey instead blasted through the Republican loyalists of Tikrit — killing Baathists with ease and displaying the lethality of American arms in the very first few hours of the war — far fewer former Saddamites would now think it is an easy thing to shoot their victors in the back. On both humanitarian and practical grounds, it was wise to forgo the long bombing that blasted Baghdad in 1991 and Belgrade eight years later; but often the cadres that fuel evil regimes see such forbearance as either weakness or a reprieve.

That we must follow the new protocols of televised warfare does not mean that the older rules of conflict, based as they are on the unchanging nature of man, will simply disappear. Those tenets remind us that in general, the more carefully we sought to avoid damage and destruction in Iraq, the more likely sordid Baathists were to be emboldened. And the more we sought to rebuild civil society, the more audacious such killers became, convinced that we were no longer deadly combatants, but rather civil servants to be easily picked off.

The burden of the modern Western soldier is not that he is too lethal — although he is surely that as well — but that he must be more than a soldier: he must be a humanitarian who seeks to rebuild almost immediately what he finds has been destroyed by his enemy. An American in Iraq must be as concerned to spackle the shattered plaster from his (or others') gun bursts as he is to pull the trigger in the first place. And that fact in and of itself — while it will never quite satisfy his elite Western censors — quite literally can get him killed.

In this regard, my favorite recent scene was in the neighborhood of the blasted death house. After explaining to Western journalists that they mysteriously knew nothing of either the Husseins' nearby presence or the Baathist sympathies of the sheik next door, residents complained of shattered windows and pockmarked walls from collateral fire — only to be assured that the U.S. government would quickly provide suitable compensation. And we will — with apologies added.

If one were to collate the recent news reports about the Mosul shootout, the lessons would be as follows: Read two mass killers their Miranda rights; duck their bullets when they shoot first; capture them alive; let Europeans cross-examine them in the Hague; lose no friendlies in the operation; do not disturb the residents next door; protect the Husseins' victims from such oppressors (but without cracking their plaster) — and in general remember that the entire scene will be filmed and then broadcast as Cops rather than as Hell is for Heroes.

I am not suggesting that we ignore the real dangers involved in ethnic profiling, or discount the moral issues that arise from killing our enemy leaders and disseminating gross pictures of their corpses. And, of course, we should seek to distinguish Baathist culprits from ordinary Iraqis.

My point is rather that, because we are products of an affluent and leisured West, we have a special burden to remember how tenuous and fragile civilization remains outside our suburbs.

Most of us don't fear much from the fatwa of a murderous mullah, and few have had our sisters shredded before our eyes in one of Uday's brush chippers — much less ever seen chemical-warfare trucks hosing down our block, as cropdusters fogged our backyards.

Instead, we have the leisure to engage in utopian musing, assured that our economy, or our unseen soldiers, or our system working on autopilot, will always ensure us such prerogatives. And in the La-La Land of Washington and New York, it is especially easy to forget that we are not even like our own soldiers in Iraq, now sleeping outside without toilets and air conditioners, eating dehydrated food, and trying to distinguish killers from innocents.

What does all this mean? Western societies from ancient Athens to imperial Rome to the French republic rarely collapsed because of a shortage of resources or because foreign enemies proved too numerous or formidable in arms — even when those enemies were grim Macedonians or Germans. Rather, in times of peace and prosperity there arose an unreal view of the world beyond their borders, one that was the product of insularity brought about by success, and an intellectual arrogance that for some can be the unfortunate byproduct of an enlightened society.

I think we are indulging in this unreal hypercriticism — even apart from the election-season antics of our politicians — because we are not being gassed, or shot, or even left hot or hungry. September 11 no longer evokes an image of incinerated firemen, innocents leaping out of skyscrapers, or the stench of flesh and melted plastic, but rather: squabbles over architectural designs, lawsuits, snarling over Mr. Ashcroft's new statutes, or concerns about being too rude to the Arab street.

Such smug dispensation — as profoundly amoral as it is — provides us, on the cheap and at a safe distance, with a sense of moral worth. Or perhaps censuring from the bleachers enables us to feel superior to those less fortunate who are still captive to their primordial appetites. We prefer to cringe at the thought that others like to see proof of their killers' deaths, prefer to shoot rather than die capturing a mass murderer, and welcome a generic profile of those who wish to kill them en masse.

We should take stock of this dangerous and growing mindset — and remember that wealthy, sophisticated societies like our own are rarely overrun. They simply implode — whining and debating still to the end, even as they pass away.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hanson; iraq; victordavishanson; warcritics; wot
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"If one were to collate the recent news reports about the Mosul shootout, the lessons would be as follows: Read two mass killers their Miranda rights; duck their bullets when they shoot first; capture them alive; let Europeans cross-examine them in the Hague; lose no friendlies in the operation; do not disturb the residents next door; protect the Husseins' victims from such oppressors (but without cracking their plaster) — and in general remember that the entire scene will be filmed and then broadcast as Cops rather than as Hell is for Heroes." That about covers it.
1 posted on 08/11/2003 7:00:58 AM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Let's Roll
bttttttttttttttt
2 posted on 08/11/2003 7:05:09 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Let's Roll
"That trapped mass murderers do not always understand the logic of jurisprudence was apparently left unmentioned. "

Liberals, having long abandoned reason and logic, are the first to demand it from everyone else.
3 posted on 08/11/2003 7:24:14 AM PDT by Noumenon (Crush the Left, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of the metrosexuals.)
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To: Let's Roll
The Romans knew better:

"LET THEM HATE, SO LONG AS THEY FEAR"
Lucius Accinus
4 posted on 08/11/2003 7:26:53 AM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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To: Let's Roll
What does all this mean? Western societies from ancient Athens to imperial Rome to the French republic rarely collapsed because of a shortage of resources or because foreign enemies proved too numerous or formidable in arms — even when those enemies were grim Macedonians or Germans. Rather, in times of peace and prosperity there arose an unreal view of the world beyond their borders, one that was the product of insularity brought about by success, and an intellectual arrogance that for some can be the unfortunate byproduct of an enlightened society.

This is a warning we had better heed from a great historian.

5 posted on 08/11/2003 7:28:43 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Let's Roll
Had Mr. Atta and his fellow killers been arrested on probable cause, their Islamic haunts raided, and assorted charities and fundraisers shut down on September 10, 2001 — cries of racism, profiling, and McCarthyism would have drowned out the purportedly farfetched excuses that such preemptory FBI raids had in fact saved thousands in Manhattan.

That's probably one of the biggest problems - The Dims claim to care and are only too willing to cripple us to prove it. They almost never offer solutions or other hard data because they spend all their time waiting for something to happen that can be exploited by their howls. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and they could care less about the damage to the Nation.

6 posted on 08/11/2003 7:30:18 AM PDT by trebb
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To: Kozak
Oderint, dum meterunt,

as I recall. Just so.

7 posted on 08/11/2003 8:18:23 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Let's Roll
"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.

8 posted on 08/11/2003 8:24:31 AM PDT by eyespysomething (You've a loose screw. Can I tighten that for you?)
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To: trebb
I know - they live for "gotcha" situations. They hope we are hit again so that despite their many obstructions/objections to serious homeland security, they can blame GWB when it happens.
9 posted on 08/11/2003 8:34:27 AM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Let's Roll; IncPen
"If one were to collate the recent news reports about the Mosul shootout, the lessons would be as follows: Read two mass killers their Miranda rights; duck their bullets when they shoot first; capture them alive; let Europeans cross-examine them in the Hague; lose no friendlies in the operation; do not disturb the residents next door; protect the Husseins' victims from such oppressors (but without cracking their plaster) — and in general remember that the entire scene will be filmed and then broadcast as Cops rather than as Hell is for Heroes." That about covers it.


Yeah, about covers it.

Jeezz.

Is there any hope short of a huge loss of life in the US proper that these folks are going to begin to get it ?
10 posted on 08/11/2003 8:48:48 AM PDT by BartMan1
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To: Let's Roll
>After explaining to Western journalists that they mysteriously knew nothing of either the Husseins' nearby presence or the Baathist sympathies of the sheik next door, residents complained of shattered windows and pockmarked walls from collateral fire...

These gawkers in their oversized nightshirts know exactly what to say to the western media and well buy their BS.

11 posted on 08/11/2003 8:58:57 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Let's Roll
>After explaining to Western journalists that they mysteriously knew nothing of either the Husseins' nearby presence or the Baathist sympathies of the sheik next door, residents complained of shattered windows and pockmarked walls from collateral fire...

These gawkers in their oversized nightshirts know exactly what to say to the western media and well buy their BS.

12 posted on 08/11/2003 8:59:45 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: BartMan1
"Is there any hope short of a huge loss of life in the US proper that these forlks are going to begin to get it?"

None. The socialists have demonstrated that they are willinbg to go to the wall and use any tactic to gain and remain in power. And we conservatives allow it to happen.

We eat, work and play with these traitors everyday. We treat them with respect when they deserve none. We allow them to hold their rallies, and spout their lies with impunity. This must change. It's time to realize that liberal/socialits don't use the same thought processes that we do, and as such cannot be reasoned with. They only understand force.

Without any real consequences for their traitorous behavior, they are simply emboldened. Conservatives must become actively and loudly intolerant of liberal/socialists. Concede them nothing. They must be publicly scorned, ridiculed and shunned. Do not associate with them socially. Don't play with their children. Refuse to do business with them. Refuse to hire or work with them. Ignore their pleas for sustenance.

Continuance on the current path of "tolerance" will result in bloodshed.

13 posted on 08/11/2003 10:22:28 AM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: Let's Roll
excellent analysis...
14 posted on 08/11/2003 10:30:48 AM PDT by CGVet58 (Pater Noster tibi est regnum et potestas et gloria in saecula)
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To: eyespysomething
"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.

Great quote! Pretty much personifies the Demoncrats. Does Ann Coulter quote this in her book?

15 posted on 08/11/2003 11:57:27 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Rockitz
I do not know if she does or not, but she sure could!

I got it from the Commandant of Students at the school I work at, who included it in his explanation quotes for his Word of the Week. I can't even remember what word he used it for. Probably loyalty, but I HTML'd so many to the archives, I lost track. Ha ha ha.

http://www.gmc.cc.ga.us/character/word_of_the_week/index.html

He only had the first 2 lines, and when I looked the whole quote up, I was amazed at how well it fit the situation today.

Thanks.
17 posted on 08/11/2003 12:59:57 PM PDT by eyespysomething (You've a loose screw. Can I tighten that for you?)
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To: Let's Roll
BTTT
18 posted on 08/11/2003 3:32:51 PM PDT by B-bone
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To: Let's Roll
Hanson is brilliant and all the professional critics in the liberal media should read this.
19 posted on 08/11/2003 8:28:05 PM PDT by faithincowboys (Defeat the Fifth Column)
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To: Heuristic Hiker
How soon we forget. Victor Davis Hanson hits it on the head again.
20 posted on 08/11/2003 10:47:02 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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