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Tour raising a Dead issue
NY Daily News ^ | August 7, 2003

Posted on 08/08/2003 10:54:17 AM PDT by presidio9

Prepare for two nights of the living Dead. Surviving members of the original psychedelic jam band, The Grateful Dead, will play two shows at Jones Beach this weekend under their new name, The Dead.

Though the Grateful Dead's cultishly revered four-and-half-fingered lead guitarist and front man Jerry Garcia died on Aug. 9, 1995, don't expect long-winded tributes to him at tomorrow's anniversary show.

"They are not a band known for talking much to the audience," says Joan Osborne, the singer famous for her 1995 hit "One Of Us." She joins former Grateful Dead members Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann on their "Summer Getaway" tour. Guitarist Jimmy Herring and keyboardists Rob Barraco and Jeff Chimenti complete the roster.

However, The Dead will treat fans to a special acoustic set — a first in New York City since their famed 1980 Radio City Music Hall show.

Larry Teitel, 43, a legal investigator who has seen members of the band play roughly 200 times — including the 1980 Radio City show — has tickets to both tomorrow and Sunday's concerts. For him, the band's not highlighting Garcia's passing isn't an issue: "I think the music alone will create the vibe [to honor him]," he says.

After Garcia's death, the group vowed never to call themselves "The Grateful Dead" again. Until this summer, Weir, Lesh and Hart have toured as The Other Ones, as well as in offshoot groups such as Phil Lesh & Friends.

Some Deadheads find the survivors' new name and decision to tour a betrayal.

"From what I can see, the current touring ensemble is profoundly unsentimental," says David Gans, who has written several books about The Grateful Dead and has been the host of the nationally syndicated Grateful Dead Hour radio program for more than 15 years.

"They made a really cynical marketing choice to take back half of the name. A lot of Deadheads are not interested in paying [a ton of money] to see a bunch of guys who've had nothing nice to say to each other in the eight years after Jerry's death get back together just to make money."

(After Garcia's death, surviving members notoriously squabbled over business-related issues.)

Marc Kahn, a fan in his mid-30s who's also going to the shows, has a different views.

"There are old Deadheads who say the Grateful Dead died with Jerry, but there's a younger generation who is happier with the new band because they have a different, upbeat sound," he says.

"It's pretty natural that [some] fans might not want things to change," says Osborne. "But I think these guys are just trying to work on new material for themselves and the audience. If they didn't, then it's just an exercise in nostalgia."


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1 posted on 08/08/2003 10:54:17 AM PDT by presidio9
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FYI.
2 posted on 08/08/2003 10:56:47 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
"There are old Deadheads who say the Grateful Dead died with Jerry, but there's a younger generation who is happier with the new band because they have a different, upbeat sound," he says.

Yeah right! So did Lawrence Welk!

3 posted on 08/08/2003 11:00:12 AM PDT by gr8eman
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To: presidio9
I never understood the appeal of these guys, but I guess that's just me.
4 posted on 08/08/2003 11:03:13 AM PDT by annyokie
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To: presidio9
Some Deadheads find the survivors' new name and decision to tour a betrayal...

how's about calling themselves 'Whipping a Dead Horse'...

5 posted on 08/08/2003 11:06:41 AM PDT by martin gibson
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how's about calling themselves 'Whipping a Dead Horse'...

Or "Over 1/2 Our Songs are Covers" (but people still think we're "original").

Anyway, they were never the same after Brent died.

6 posted on 08/08/2003 11:13:04 AM PDT by gdani
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To: presidio9
Back in the day, you could have appended "Inc." to end of "The Greatful Dead." As a touring band and merchandisers they had no peer. Amazing when you consider that they really weren't in the big leagues as far as record sales go.

Keeping the flame alive is the only way to maintain the cash flow. Sorry Deadheads, but the San Francisco Hippie-thing became a prop.

7 posted on 08/08/2003 11:24:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (Trying desperately to ignore Hillary.... and not succeeding.)
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To: annyokie
Mind you, I am not a "Dead Head"- a person who lived only to see the Grateful Dead in concert - but I do like their music. They managed to combine a driving rock & rock base with a bluegrass kind of feel for their own type of music. They really did some very nice stuff.
8 posted on 08/08/2003 11:29:55 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: Dogrobber
I'm not being disparaging. I just can't get past those twenty minute guitar solos. To me, it's like Iron Butterfly with the endless drum solos.

I guess I'm too type A for that genre of music. Gimme Led Zepplin and Uriah Heep. Man, Im showing my age! ; )
9 posted on 08/08/2003 11:34:33 AM PDT by annyokie
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To: presidio9
Why don't they just take Jerry on tour with them. The Stones have toured with somebody that has been since 1969. Oh, sorry Keith just looks like he has been dead that long.
10 posted on 08/08/2003 11:43:25 AM PDT by sticker
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"Gimme Led Zepplin and Uriah Heep. Man, Im showing my age!"
Not really, showing your age is Little Richards Upsetters Band on Specialty or Jimmy Wright's house band for GEE and RAMA records in '56. Now that's showing your age! Err my age.
11 posted on 08/08/2003 11:43:51 AM PDT by duckman
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To: gdani
"Anyway, they were never the same after Brent died."

I agree. His contribution to the sound gave it depth and color. I was saddened and shocked - more so then with Jerome John Garcia's death - when he died. The keyboard seat though has always taken it's toll over the years.

I've missed the rolling thunder of the Grateful Dead sound. Rat Dog and other Dead spinoff bands help anchor a "Gratful Dead style" of playng music, but I always deeply respected the Grateful Dead's collective opinion that much the music recording industry is a stinking pile of bovive blessings. And how that mindset gave their music power and confidence not often heard live on stage.

You can bet thst I will see them when they are near my city this year. <.pun> It's the best way to take life 'Kesey' in the hot daze of summer. <./pun>

12 posted on 08/08/2003 11:54:51 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: presidio9
Isn't Ann Coulter a "dead head"? Of course, I always remembered the joke:

Q: What did the "Dead Head" say after the drugs wore off?
A: Gee, these guys suck.
13 posted on 08/08/2003 11:58:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: gr8eman
Yeah right! So did Lawrence Welk!

While the music may be schamltzy and dork-infested to the extreme, not many people appreciate just how hot the players had to be to get a gig on that show. Absolute proficiency in site reading and playing on at least three instruments.

Lionel Hampton was actually turned away because he could do only two (thank god).

14 posted on 08/08/2003 12:05:44 PM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: bicycle thug
Caught them in Atlanta last week. They sounded great, Herring is a hell of a guitar player - and the second set they played was as good as any I saw in my 30+ GD shows. Since it sounds like you know what you are talking about, picture this:

Uncle John's > Reuben & Cherise > Scarlet > Fire > D/S > Comes A Time > China Cat > Rider

15 posted on 08/08/2003 12:21:15 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: presidio9
So are they ungrateful now?
16 posted on 08/08/2003 12:29:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: lugsoul
Caught them in Atlanta last week. They sounded great, Herring is a hell of a guitar player - and the second set they played was as good as any I saw in my 30+ GD shows. Since it sounds like you know what you are talking about, picture this: Uncle John's > Reuben & Cherise > Scarlet > Fire > D/S > Comes A Time > China Cat > Rider

I saw "Beatlemania" last week here in NY. It was great. Picture this: "Oh Darlin! > Come Together > Lovely Rita > etc...

17 posted on 08/08/2003 12:33:40 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
They put on some decent shows as "The Other Ones", why the name change?
18 posted on 08/08/2003 12:34:35 PM PDT by amused (Arnold.....just because)
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To: lugsoul
Sounds like a great set. Uncle John's Band or Playing in the Band or Black Peter would bring a tear to my eye hearing it live again after so many years.

Dead shows have an incredible connection between the players onstage, and the audience. When I have been there when they were really clicking and cooking, the experience was unlike any I have ever had anywhere. You can bet yer Cosmic Charlie on that one. (A song that I bet they still will never play again.)

19 posted on 08/08/2003 12:34:50 PM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: annyokie
I never understood the appeal of these guys, but I guess that's just me.

No, not just you. The vast popularity of the Dead is the most unexplainable phenomenon I have ever encountered. The "flash in the pan" success of acts like Britney Spears, the Bay City Rollers or Milli Vanilli, I can understand. The longevity of the Dead's popularity baffles me.

20 posted on 08/08/2003 12:39:27 PM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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