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The road to gay marriage
Jewish World Review ^
| 8/8/03
| Marianne M. Jennings
Posted on 08/08/2003 10:14:18 AM PDT by Zender500
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To: VRWCmember
Was talking specifically about gay marriage there, so your example is moot. Besides maybe if Bonzo's daddy had done something about it maybe your premiums wouldn't be so high. Instead it was blamed on "poppers and cat hair" and allowed to florish uncontrolled until it reached the straight community as well. (Though, I'm certainly not denying that sexual behavior is a cause of the spread of HIV and that many gays are extremely stupid about who they sleep with.)
To: Zender500
Excellent article:
College education level for gays and lesbians is double that of the general population, with one-half holding at least one degree. As a result, they hold influential positions in business, government and non-profits. They write, call and demonstrate in unison. Too-silent straights are struggling and juggling children, work and soccer games.
I found the above paragraph to be pivotal even though there were a number of other very concise comments and observations. These already fairly neurotic folks are transferring/projecting their own "issues" onto the rest of us. Not much different from your typical liberal just a bit more emotive. The feminization of this country continues unabated.
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posted on
08/08/2003 10:53:18 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
To: Zavien Doombringer
Actually, I'd take it a bit further.
The trademark in those greetings isn't the tense of "enjoy", it's "we hope you enjoy(ed) your stay". That implies that the person is about to leave, meaning ZOT.
Just a "welcome to FR" is good, or you can post the "welcome, enjoy your stay" and put a "no zot" warning on there for all us confused people. ^_^
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posted on
08/08/2003 10:53:43 AM PDT
by
4mycountry
(One voice, connecting with others like a water droplet on a lake. It cannot be missed.)
To: randog
See #10 for the answer :)
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posted on
08/08/2003 10:53:51 AM PDT
by
chance33_98
(http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
To: fml
Your spouce would know.
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posted on
08/08/2003 10:56:37 AM PDT
by
4mycountry
(One voice, connecting with others like a water droplet on a lake. It cannot be missed.)
To: RockandRollResurrection
Using words like "hath"? Please. That's not even correct anymore. And the dramatic ending where she magically predicts the future. Wow. If I were her I would submit this to the school newspaper ASAP! Time for an E. D. Hirsch cultural literacy moment: Jennings is reprising/paraphrasing the famous message sent by Samuel F. B. Morse in his first test of the telegraph: "What hath God wrought?" (a Bible quote from Numbers 23:23). If you looked up the expression on Google, I'd bet you find zillions of contemporary citations.
And Jennings' prediction of the future seems anything but mystical or magical to me, given her solid expositions of recent history and statistics.
Speaking of all those citations (gay gene myth, suppression of free speech, et al.), I'd say that's the place to start the refutation, not in quibbles over language.
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:02:31 AM PDT
by
rhema
To: VRWCmember
That argument (increased healthcare costs due to AIDS) is even more applicable to smokers and fast-food eaters. Are you for criminalizing the latter behaviors?
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:03:34 AM PDT
by
ellery
To: 4mycountry; All
Will take the advice, Anyone who was offended, sincerest apologies!
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:13:25 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
To: rhema
You're right, I suppose. I just thought the "What hath (blank) wrought?" thing was a bit cliched and over-used. As far as refuting every one of her claims, I don't see what would be the point. My reaction to most of them is, "So what? That's politics." I don't support everything any gay group does. I agree that some of them want to stifle free speech on the grounds that it is "hate". I abhor people who do that. However, to blame the "gay agenda" for the cancellation of Dr. Laura's TV show is being a bit naive. The show was terrible, and this is coming from someone who is actually a FAN of her radio show. She should have stuck to what she does best, lambasting people and giving them life-changing (sometimes for the worse) advice after listening to them for less than 30 seconds. On radio, she's an icon. On TV she was shrill, her topics were unoriginal, her "audience members" obviously planted and their questions scripted. In short, it was dreadfully tedious and had none of the "edge" her radio show had. It was like being in a dentist's office for four hours listening to a drill. At first, the sound is painful, but after a while it lulls you to sleep.
To: rhema
Sorry Rhema, but Zender500 is the name I was refering to. sorry about the confusion.
Most of the Trolls today have been signing in with digits in thier names.
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:17:28 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
To: Zavien Doombringer
Huh? No one was offended, just a little confused. You're ok! No need to apologize!
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:17:30 AM PDT
by
4mycountry
(One voice, connecting with others like a water droplet on a lake. It cannot be missed.)
To: Zavien Doombringer
Sorry Rhema, but Zender500 is the name I was refering to. sorry about the confusion. I did understand that, and I didn't take any offense. I was just commenting how atypical Troll behavior it would be for a DU subversive to post a Marianne Jennings column as his/her first post. Well, maybe if it were a really dense DU operative, . . .
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:22:19 AM PDT
by
rhema
To: rhema
I have also noticed that there aren't any other postings under this guys belt!...
No replys to anyone!
Isn't this typical of a Troll?
Post an article and leave?
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:25:23 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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To: RockandRollResurrection
My reaction to most of them is, "So what? That's politics." I don't support everything any gay group does. I agree that some of them want to stifle free speech on the grounds that it is "hate". I abhor people who do that. I'll respectfully disagree only in degree. I think there's a sizable number of activists who are attempting to suppress dissent/disagreement in every corner of the public square: education, religion, government, media, you name it.
And although there was a concerted effort from the gay community to scuttle Dr. Laura, I'd have to agree with you that her TV show was ultimately doomed to extinction because she couldn't replicate her radio show's pizzazz.
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:30:42 AM PDT
by
rhema
To: All
homosexuals will just simply now play around the word marriage. They will now want the "same thing" without the mere word marriage. This will then be used to stigmatize marriage as "just for kooks".
Sorry but their fetish for recreational sex does not rise to the level of tax breaks or special rights.
Any ONE example is irrelevant, marriage is an insititution and not subject to the whims of a few mentally ill people.
To: Zavien Doombringer
I have also noticed that there aren't any other postings under this guys belt!... No replys to anyone! Isn't this typical of a Troll? Post an article and leave? To quote a famous Stooge, "I resemble that remark." No, really, I don't resent your suspicions. I just don't have the luxury (work, you understand) of being on FreeRepublic for great lengths of time.
In future posts, maybe I'll be able to establish my conservative credentials to the satisfaction of my fellow (and I trust that "fellow" isn't too sexist an expression here) FReepers.
To: Zender500
Welcome Zender500!
As I am sure you can understand some scepticism.
I apologize. *Low Bow*
I look forward to more of your postings!
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:46:10 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
To: ellery
I'm not for criminalizing any of the behaviors (including homosexuality or any other deviant sexual behavior).
At the same time, I oppose redefining marriage to include same-sex or inter-species marriages. You are free to hump you kitten or pig if you like, but I don't think we should recognize your marriage to it.
To: Oenothera
Interesting point...although anyone who would get divorced just for financial bennies probably shouldn't be married in the first place. :-)
I think a biggie is being able to cover your spouse with health care -- that's being addressed by many companies with "domestic partner" benefits. Ultimately, I don't think it's a bad thing to allow two people to take legal responsibility for one another -- it should lessen medicaid burden, welfare, etc. since a two-person unit is more stable than two one-person units.
But I agree with many of the posters here that it shouldn't be considered "hate speech" for people to speak of biblical beliefs.
I wholeheartedly agree with your approach of separating the legalisms around marriage from the personal commitment aspect. Heck, my own marriage is based on a lot more than just a piece of government paper...
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posted on
08/08/2003 11:57:04 AM PDT
by
ellery
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