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man arrest for detaining illegal immigrants
Yuma Sun ^ | LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 8:27:02 PM PDT by AZ GRAMMY

Second arrest made in immigrant incident

BY LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer Aug 7, 2003

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Yuma County sheriff's deputies have arrested a second man in connection with the alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants on July 31 in Gadsden.

Alexander David Dumas, 26, was arrested Tuesday evening after driving to Yuma from his home in Big Bear Lake, Calif., for an interview, said sheriff's spokesman Lt. Eben Bratcher.

Dumas was charged with six counts of aggravated assault and five counts of unlawful imprisonment following the early morning July 31 incident where deputies said he and Matthew Paul Hoffman, arrested on the same charges on Monday, detained a group of six illegal immigrants that had just entered the United States through the Colorado River.

A third man, Martin Hoffman Jr., was with the two suspects but won't be charged because he was not armed and did not take part in the handcuffing of the illegal immigrants, Bratcher said.

Bratcher said the department will continue to investigate the case and warned citizens against taking the law into their own hands.

He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol, and not take it upon themselves to apprehend the group by using guns and handcuffs. Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said.

"When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention," he said. "There was no justification for the use of force."

Deputies said the two men handcuffed five members of the group, which included three children and two women, and held them at gunpoint until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrived.

Agents have said they were dispatched to the scene when a surveillance camera operator noticed the incident unfolding. The agents called the sheriff's department, who then identified and interviewed all three men before letting them go, officials said.

Bratcher said the men are not believed to be part of a larger group, such as the citizen patrol groups that operate on private property along the Tucson border and use various forms of technology to alert Border Patrol agents to the presence of illegal immigrants in the area.

Also being charged with five counts of endangerment is a 16-year-old Mexican national who Bratcher said was paid $600 to bring the illegal immigrants into the United States. Bratcher also said the illegal immigrants were planning to meet with a taxi cab in Gadsden and were to be taken to a unidentified Yuma hotel, according to interviews done of the illegal immigrants by detectives.

William Robbins, Border Patrol spokesman, said the six illegal immigrants were in the agency's custody as of Wednesday morning but couldn't be interviewed.

Hugo Oliva, Mexican consul in Yuma, said the group was in good condition following the incident and that his office is encouraged by the sheriff's department's efforts regarding this case.

"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."

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KEYWORDS: citizensarrest; crime; illegalimmigrants
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To: Cultural Jihad
ok, you're right...sorry. I was just poking some sick and twisted humor
21 posted on 08/07/2003 8:53:05 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: Cultural Jihad
ok, you're right...sorry. I was just poking some sick and twisted humor
22 posted on 08/07/2003 8:53:07 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: 782gear
"We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."

yes we can

23 posted on 08/07/2003 8:53:28 PM PDT by conservativefromGa (www.awbansunset.com)
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To: Centurion2000
The clowns accosted and assaulted women and children 10 miles from the border and are being charged for their crimes. They did not witness the border crossing. More than likely these immigrants are guilty of a misdemeanor, which a citizen would have to witness in order to legally perform a citizen's arrest. Hence the charges of false imprisonment.

If one is going to rail against illegal immigration it would behoove one to not commit crimes in doing so.

24 posted on 08/07/2003 8:53:43 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Centurion2000
" They are federal criminals. If they didn't want a gun pointed at them they should have stayed in Mexico. "

Roger that. I am fresh out of sympathy.
25 posted on 08/07/2003 8:54:09 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Joe Hadenuf
dont forget thier armed soldiers crossing our borders and firing upon our border patrol agents.

26 posted on 08/07/2003 8:54:12 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Yes, vigilantes who assault women and children undoubtedly are nasty, brutish criminals. Hence the term for them: "Illegals."
27 posted on 08/07/2003 8:55:29 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Tell President Bush to get off his butt and protect our borders and sovereignty. Remind him they are Federal borders.
28 posted on 08/07/2003 8:56:07 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Dr. Marten

American tribal justice:

"One of your people did something terrible to one of our people, and therefore you are all guilty!"

29 posted on 08/07/2003 8:57:01 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Shoving a gun in the faces of women and children is not an assault?

&&

It doesn't sound as if anyone shove a gun into anyone's face. Don't be melodramatic. If the vigilantes had said,
"Please wait here until the LEOs come," do you really think they illegals would not have kept on going toward their destination?
30 posted on 08/07/2003 8:57:21 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Bigg Red
shove = shoved
31 posted on 08/07/2003 8:57:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Dr. Marten
Yeah, and the thousands of drunk illegal aliens slaughtering American citizens on our roads, rapes, robberies, murders and other general chaos they create.
32 posted on 08/07/2003 8:58:00 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Tell President Bush to get off his butt and protect our borders and sovereignty. Remind him they are Federal borders.


33 posted on 08/07/2003 8:58:28 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Bigg Red
Shoving a gun in the faces of women and children = aggravated assault.
35 posted on 08/07/2003 8:59:27 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Vigilantism erodes justice.

Justice is dead in this country.

36 posted on 08/07/2003 8:59:50 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Post #29 for you, too. Did these women and children rape or rob or murder anyone?

37 posted on 08/07/2003 9:01:15 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Centurion2000

LOL! Thanks for the ideologue chuckle.

38 posted on 08/07/2003 9:02:06 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Tell President Bush to get off his butt and protect our borders and sovereignty. Remind him they are Federal borders.
39 posted on 08/07/2003 9:04:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Centurion2000
You are right. You or I would get in more trouble taking a stroll in some gated communites than a citizen of another country jumping our border.
40 posted on 08/07/2003 9:04:25 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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