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People Leave Calif. Faster Than Moving
AP: Kansas.com ^
| Aug 6, 2003
| GENARO C. ARMAS
Posted on 08/05/2003 11:30:58 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
California is fast losing its allure as the Golden State.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:33:16 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: BurbankKarl
The explanations from the "experts" are ridiculous. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that people are leaving the liberal states and moving to the conservative ones.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:37:25 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
To: goldstategop
>>"California has been the recipient of much of the nation's immigration. The only way you can balance that is by exporting people out of state," Myers said. "These numbers should in no way be attributed as a setback to California." <<
No, trading successful businesspeople and educated professionals, taxpayers all, for third world immigrants and welfare recipients is not a setback in the eyes of an SC demographer.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:38:13 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
To: goldstategop; DoughtyOne; doug from upland
Middle class taxpayers are leaving. We're still getting overrun by illegals. Bush is doing NOTHING stop the flood of illegals. Nothing!
Meanwhile, our jobs continue to vanish with each passing day.
On the bright side, we're going to get that wonderful medicare boondoggle.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:38:30 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: Jeff Chandler
Can't do anything about illegals. Wouldn't be prudent.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:39:22 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: BurbankKarl
People Leave Calif. Faster Than Moving InLord, I hope it's true. If 10 million left by tomorrow morning, it wouldn't be too soon for me.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:45:12 PM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(Are these people for real?)
To: BurbankKarl
Only New York, which lost 874,000 more residents to other states than it took in, had a bigger net decline than California, which lost 755,000. Illinois, New Jersey and Pennsylvania also lost more than they gained.Hmmm, what do these states have in common folks? There are actually four things. Number one the three states above are three of five of the states with the highest population concentrations of illegal aliens. Number two. These states are losing citizens because they are sick of dealing with illegal aliens and the problems they present. Number three is they just happen to have the most electoral votes for the time being. And number four, these and two other states have just about enough votes to take the electoral college victory. This isn't simple illegal immigration to find a better lifestyle folks. This is by design and there is a method to this madness.
The five largest populations of illegal aliens are, California, Florida, Illinois, New York and Texas. If people think some of these folks aren't voting, they should think again.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:45:39 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(I might not be legion, but then I'm not ashamed of what I say enough to post under different names.)
To: DoughtyOne
My cousins are all leaving Rochester NY for South Carolina. They all have big houses of $50-60k and annual property tax payments at 10%...plus most used to work for Kodak.
Bye bye bye.
To: Joe Hadenuf
Are you joking? The people leaving this state are the middle class taxpayers. All that's going to be left when they're gone are Hollyweird lefties and illegal aliens.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:49:31 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: BurbankKarl
While I certainly understand why these folks are leaving, I think it's very very very very very important for US citizens march on their capitals and demand this nonsense stop. Illegal aliens MUST be evicted. We CANNOT just run from them and abandon our nation to them.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:50:26 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(I might not be legion, but then I'm not ashamed of what I say enough to post under different names.)
To: DoughtyOne
You're right, running away won't help.
The Republicans won't do anything about illegal aliens because: (1) big business likes things the way they are, and (2) Karl Rove/Bush are playing their stupid games to win re-election even if it screws us for the next three generations
Pat Buchanan is being proved right, sad to say.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:53:17 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
Are you joking? The people leaving this state are the middle class taxpayers. All that's going to be left when they're gone are Hollyweird lefties and illegal aliens.Good, that means when all the tax payers are gone, there will be no one left to support the illegals. LOL! It's a win win.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:55:08 PM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(Are these people for real?)
To: BurbankKarl
These States are the most RED States. They have been the most dominated by hardcore socialist Democrats.
I'll bet the States with the most migration incoming are more likely to be Republican, pro-liberty States.
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:57:48 PM PDT
by
Mark Felton
("All liberty flows from the barrel of a gun")
To: DoughtyOne
Remember that Karl Rove had Congressman Tom Tancredo BANISHED from the White House because he had the temerity to talk about illegal aliens! Last I heard, the White House has been looking to recruit a primary challenge for Tancredo. Outrageous.
The White House works for us, not Vicente Fox. Or at least that's the way it should be!
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posted on
08/05/2003 11:59:05 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
Pat Buchanan is being proved right, sad to say.Yes he is. And those in others states are now finding that out in a big way, as their state politicos, in concert with the federal government, are all panding to the illegals, just as they did in Cal.
I actually find it amusing watching people flee to all points, only to have the illegals standing in line in front of them, when they get to where their going.....
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posted on
08/06/2003 12:09:38 AM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(Are these people for real?)
To: ambrose
Yes it is sad. And I'm not self centered enough to be thrilled he is being proven right either. It's a blight on our nation that his opinion has been proven to be so rock solid with regard to immigration in the late 80s and early 90s.
Look how much we have lost, how much it has cost us, how much/many our fellow citizens suffered an died, how many civil rights we have watched threatened by this situation, how many wars and battles we've had to wage and will wage after 09/11, and how many troops have died.
We could have easily avoided every stinking bit of this. Even today we are willing to see it all happen again. We allow people from terrorist states to come here. We leave our borders wide open.
And people never pass a chance to damn Buchanan. Simply amazing.
I have my differences with him. On some issues he's dead wrong. If he had been able to debate the immigration issue with Dole and Bush, at least it would have received coverage. Nope, he was kept out. The process, maniplated by the major parties failed us. At least IMO.
I would have been satisfied if Buchanan could have gotten this single issue across to bush.
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posted on
08/06/2003 12:18:48 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(I might not be legion, but then I'm not ashamed of what I say enough to post under different names.)
To: Moonman62
William Frey, a demographer with the Brookings Institution in Washington, said the California departures could be a sign that residents were fed up with high housing prices and sprawl. Why does'nt this jack@$$ just say, "This could be a sign that residents were fed up with abortion restrictions and a ban on gay marraige"? It would be as accurate as the foolish assessment he is making now.
The answer is of course a bad state economy, high taxes, and a ridiculous cost of living.
This reminds of the late 90's when recruitment and re-enlistments were way down in the military. Every liberal pundit attributed it to a good economy without asking one person who was actually in the military - which said almost to a tee that it was because of a bad commander in chief who cared nothing about them. Yet liberal punditry refused to face the facts.
To: goldstategop
California is fast becoming the golden "shower" state.
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posted on
08/06/2003 12:28:17 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: DoughtyOne
Buchanan was his own worst enemy at times. So at times, it was hard to separate the message from the messenger.
I'll say this: I think Bush will be toast if we take a major terrorist hit from people coming across the border from Mexico. Even after Sept. 11th, nothing has been done to tighten our borders.
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posted on
08/06/2003 12:28:46 AM PDT
by
ambrose
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