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Rush Compares Bush to Nixon [actual title: Bush '04 Strategy More Nixon Than Reagan]
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | July 30, 2003 | Derek Taylor

Posted on 07/30/2003 5:18:48 PM PDT by derekftaylor

Edited on 07/30/2003 5:57:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Actual text of Rush's article:


1:15 PM ET BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:

Consider this story by Steven E. Schier in The Hill magazine, "President Bush - A Radical With a Plan." Quote: "President Bush has had a rough summer, beset by a troublesome military occupation of Iraq, growing budget deficits and media challenges to his credibility." Get that: "media challenges." That's horse manure. These are not just "media." They may as well be elected Democrats. That's who's challenging Bush. They're one and the same.

More: "Lately, the White House has fought back hard in response to its Democratic critics. Why such an aggressive approach? The Bush presidency has a huge project at its heart, one now suddenly threatened by adverse events. The White House forcefulness towards its critics reflects the unusually large scale of Bush’s presidential ambitions. Bush’s goal is a big one — to make the Republicans the natural, default party of government." Where have we heard this before? I guess this is this guy's version of The BIG Theory. "Karl Rove, the president’s chief political strategist, frequently mentions durable GOP dominance as a major goal of the Bush presidency. Bush seeks lasting conservative rule over American politics, completion of the rightward revolution begun by Ronald Reagan.

"The Bush administration is working steadily to create conservative dominance over political institutions, party and interest group alignments and the terms of policy debate. In the terms of Yale University political scientist Stephen Skowronek, Bush is an 'orthodox innovator' trying to adapt the Reagan approach for the 21st century. As James K. Polk restored the Democratic Party in the 1840s and Teddy Roosevelt reinvigorated the GOP at the turn of the 20th century, so Bush hopes to create a new Republican political coalition than can dominate national politics long after he leaves the White House.

"The risk for such orthodox-innovators, according to Skowronek, is that their innovations split their coalitions and end their party’s dominance, as Roosevelt’s progressivism divided the GOP in 1912. So far, Bush has avoided that fate. Instead, his strategy, described to me by a White House official as 'base-plus,' seems to be working. The GOP base loves Bush, though his hold on centrist voters remains uncertain. If his proposed tax cuts stimulate the economy in time for the 2004 election and international events do not turn against the White House, Bush’s long-term strategy will have an improved chance of succeeding.

"The worst news of the summer for Bush concerns the budget deficit, now likely to exceed $450 billion next year. His GOP base may well fracture in the long-term over the problem of large and persistent budget deficits resulting from his tax cuts."
The base concerned about the deficit? Dream on! The base isn't going to care a rat's hair about it. "Deficits pose three political difficulties for his project. First, large deficits over time will produce increasing disunity among Congressional Republicans. Complaints about this year’s deficit are already issuing from GOP ranks on Capitol Hill. Second, deficits hand Democrats a national issue with which to put the GOP on the defensive.

"Bush’s own father — an orthodox innovator who failed — found both Bill Clinton and Ross Perot effectively hammering him on the issue in 1992. Third, high deficits endanger other central policy goals of the administration, such as an increased defense buildup and Social Security privatization. The Bush administration promises tight spending control to reduce deficits. Its first two years in office do not seem to guarantee future discipline. Federal spending in 2001 and 2002 grew more than it did during Clinton’s first four years in office.

"And if such discipline is attempted, how will swing voters react to cuts in popular programs? Building a dominant conservative coalition for the long term is a task beset with practical political difficulties. This is an administration bent on huge changes in American politics and public policy and willing to take big risks to achieve them. Right now, they’re fighting hard to retain the political initiative behind this big project, facing some of the biggest political challenges of Bush’s presidency. Whether or not they succeed, the Bush presidency promises to enter the history books as one of the most politically ambitious of all time – because of its efforts to reshape the entire political landscape."



The author here, Steven Schier is Congdon Professor of Political Science at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota. He's editor of a forthcoming book on the early presidency of George W. Bush. In essence, this is his version of the BIG Theory in which the president and his advisors are basically counting on the fact that the base will be their support no matter what, and they're going out there advancing a domestic agenda designed to attract Democrat liberal moderate centrist pinko voters to expand to the Republican base, make it so big that there's no longer a viable Democratic Party. So let me try to deal with this the most delicate way that I can.

I have pointed out every fact raised in this piece to one degree or another, over the course of the past three or four months, every fact raised in this piece. The problem with this piece is its conclusion, I think, which I just shared with you. This base plus approach is nothing new. Everybody tries this. Reagan reached out to the blue-collar and religious Democrats back in the '80s. I mean, that's where the phrase "Reagan Democrats" comes from. And as I've said repeatedly, he did so without stiffing his base time and time again. Back in the '80s, nobody who voted for Reagan was upset with what he was doing on the domestic agenda. I'll telling you, folks, nobody was. Yet the Reagan Democrats loved this guy.

The electoral strategic model that is being followed by the Bush operatives is not Reaganesque. Here comes the biggie...it's Nixonesque. Wait a minute, folks. Just hang on. I don't say that with any intent to diminish either Nixon or Bush. This is an analytical fact. Remember, just as Reagan won two landslides, Nixon won one as well - a huge one in 1972. Now, let's look at this. Richard Nixon, like Bush, embraced, I think, too much of the left's domestic agenda in an effort to attract support beyond his own base. Look at what Nixon did. He created the Environmental Protection Agency, he created OSHA, he created revenue sharing - which is the kind now touted by Hillary Clinton for the so-called homeland security purposes.

Nixon was the first president to put real teeth in the affirmative action laws, in case you're too young to know or have forgotten. It was Nixon who imposed wage and price controls when unemployment was at 3%, and Nixon, Nixon relied on the weakness and the public aversion of his opponent, George McGovern, to win his landslide. You'd be hard-pressed to argue that it was any kind of political revolution from a philosophical governing viewpoint. I mean, Nixon made a beeline for the things that McGovern voters liked on the domestic side. McGovern was a pure anti-war candidate, anti-Vietnam. I know some of you are going to be scratching your heads or worse, but it's a mistake to say that what Bush is doing is Reaganesque. There are far more similarities to Nixon.

Nixon would have signed a campaign finance reform bill. Reagan wouldn't have. Nixon would have signed any major expansion of Medicare. Reagan would have vetoed that before it got to the White House. Nixon tried to blur some of the principle distinctions between conservatism and liberalism, but Reagan never blurred the difference. He always referred to limited government and repeatedly spoke of it. He challenged liberal thought and policy on virtually every front. If there's a model that's being adopted - and I think the Bushes are being somewhat original and unique here with what Rove is doing, at least in how they're executing it - it's more Nixonian. Bush told the Urban League "[W]e need active government." Those words never would have crossed Reagan's lips. They would have crossed the lips of Nixon easily. When I heard that line I thought, "Who wrote this speech? Bill Kristol?" So we're looking at similarities, but not to Reagan.

In addition here to establishing, I think, very conclusively and almost inarguably that the Bush pattern here of "base plus," or the new theory that Bush more closely replicates what Nixon did certainly more than what Reagan did, let's deal more with foreign policy and national security, shall we? The comparison to Reagan and the Reagan Revolution does work. It's one area where I will agree with Schier's piece.

Both Bush and Reagan rejected the common wisdom and they've set their undiverted sites on destroying the enemy. In Bush's case, terrorism and Al-Qaeda. In Reagan's view, the evil empire. Reagan toppled the Soviet Union by rejecting containment and appeasement. Bush has terrorists all over the world on the run by doing the exact same thing. Both Reagan and Bush have been denounced by the mainstream media - and even by members of their own party. That's because Reagan was, and because Bush is, a visionary when it comes to the national security of his country. That's the similarity. If you want the similarity between Bush and Reagan, look at foreign policy. If you want the similarity between Bush and somebody else on the domestic side, regardless of what you think of it, you will find a far closer alignment with Richard Nixon in his 1972 campaign and its governance after his landslide victory in 1972....

Furthermore, what is the Nixon legacy? "Great foreign policy president," right? It certainly is. He opened the door to China and all that sort of stuff. What do you think Bush is angling for here? He's got the base plus, the BIG Theory. But the things that Bush is doing that will end up in history books are indeed Nixonian: foreign policy and wiping out of the terrorism.

(1:40 PM EST END TRANSCRIPT)

(1:57 PM EST BEGIN TRANSCRIPT)

Mr. Snerdley desperately tried to make the case that Bush is more like Reagan on the BIG Theory than Nixon, but you can't make that case - other than tax cuts. That's really the closest you can get. A final example is that, during Wednesday's show, President Bush made remarks at the White House celebrating the 38th anniversary of Medicare. Nixon would have done that; I don't know that Reagan did, although he might have been forced to. If Reagan did do it, he didn't want to.

2:00 PM EST END FINAL TRANSCRIPT


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; nixon; reagan; rushlimbaugh
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To: swheats
I guess now that he's found FR there's never a moment without

Dream on ...

I will have to give FR the credit that it's due, however.

121 posted on 07/30/2003 9:16:15 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: _Jim
Listen, you mysogenistic little twit, I don't have " selective hearing " nor an " inability to understand communications in a " man's world " ...nor no parrallel experiences to 'relate'to." As a matter of fact, Rush is the one who was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO damned OUT OF IT , re relating to Manhattan, or even to much of anyother place, in '89 and forwards, that he was ( probably still is ! ) completely incapable of dealing with Manhattan; let alone living a " normal " life. Now, that he's married to a social climber, he gets out and trades on that. I'm NOT impressed ; are you ?

Anyone, with even the tiniest of sophistication and political accumen, sees Rush for what and who he has turned into. Obviously, you are the one who lacks the abilities of undersatnding, has slective hearing, and doesn't know that " a man's world " is no longer what it once was, pet. Heck,in the sense you appear to mean, I'm more of a " man ", than you'll ever be, pet. ;^)

Maybe YOU should consider that YOU are missing far more than you know. Rush has changed and changed mightily. He didn't used to try to pronouce "issue " with a badly done, prissy English accent ALL of the time, he didn't waste most of the day on things like toe fungus, his golf game, nor where and what he ate. He was funny, he was an unsophisticate ( and proud of it...which was also stupid, but not nearly as bad as the reverse!), and I doubt that you've listened to tapes of his shows, from the early years.

I haven't changed at all; Rush has. And, BTW, my husband stopped listening to him FIRST...and he is the one who got me hooked on Rush to begin with. Rush turned him off, most of our friends and family members off and I am the LAST person to have stopped listening to him altogether.

Ever think, dear, that it is YOU, who is off base ? LOL

122 posted on 07/30/2003 9:18:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: swheats
Thats another one I won't watch.
123 posted on 07/30/2003 9:18:19 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Well, assuming there are 51% that are "freedom loving".

Most likely there aren't 51% that are freedom-loving, but there are 51% that are most freedom-loving.

But beyond the witicism [at least I think it's a witicism...could be the truth, I suppose] that's a hard call when you are running an election. When you run an election you have to go for every single vote that it's possible to get. Elections are too amorphous to control that expertly...expertly enough to know that you are getting just the 51% and that it's only the "right" people voting for you. You've got to go all out to get as many votes as you can...because in an election you control very little of what is happening out in the voting society.

Yes, you give the point of view of somebody who is "running an election". The point of view I gave was of one who is most freedom-loving.

BTW, I thought Bush's 2000 campaign was prefect. He won -- generally speaking -- with 49% of the vote that was most freedom-loving.

124 posted on 07/30/2003 9:18:47 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: Consort
Yes, exactly the same way and for far less reason.
125 posted on 07/30/2003 9:19:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mike the lurker
he will do what it takes, to make that happen, & he will blow with the wind to keep those radio dials from turning.

Yeah, right.

An assertion without support (a cite), without basis AND without supporting 'history'.

CALL him any open-line Friday and CHALLENGE him on that.

YOU WILL get to the head of the line ...

(Entertaining he does have to be - 'blowing in the wind' without a philosophical anchor/an ideology he does not.)

126 posted on 07/30/2003 9:20:22 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: _Jim
Talk about " SELECTIVE HEARING "; NOT TO MENTION LOSS OF MEMORY, DEAR. iT WAS three WHOLE DAYS, WITH COMMERCIAL BREAKS AND THE USUAL : " I HAVE SO MUCH ON MY PLATE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN " crapola...which he NEVER got to.

You're eyes must be brown .... fill in the rest. Barbra Stiesand thrower.

127 posted on 07/30/2003 9:21:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Ever think, dear, that it is YOU, who is off base ?

NOT when I have a chance to listen to those TAPES from the early 90's deary and compare the El Rushbo of then to now ...

Game - set - match.

(The 'woman' is never wrong - ha!)

128 posted on 07/30/2003 9:22:40 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: _Jim
YOU'D better check on WHAT he's saying now about Hilliary!

Why would you assume that I don't know what Rush is saying about Hillary running in 2004 -- now?

(*It's obvious that you read more into what I just said.*)

I'll say it again;

Rush made outright statements about Hillary not running, both for the senate 3 years ago and very recently and about 2004.

That's all I said.

129 posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:11 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: FreeReign
LOL! Too many perfect elections like that and we'll have a bunch of winners dead from heart attacks (not to mention the toll on supporters)!
130 posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:39 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: _Jim
Alex Jones staged much of those films, which he sell to cretins.

Some people, here, have tried and tried to claim that he knows what he's talking about and quote him.He is a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong ago discredited source!

I post the facts, so that people reading this thread won't swallow, as whole cloth, tinfoil garbage. I don't have to tell/convince Jones of anything. He's a manipulator, a charlatan, and a liar, who is making money from a scam.

131 posted on 07/30/2003 9:25:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: _Jim
You wouldn't have to be Rush would you? You having archived tapes of past shows, and the defense you're giving on his behalf causes me to ask.
132 posted on 07/30/2003 9:25:25 PM PDT by swheats
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To: nopardons
iT WAS three WHOLE DAYS,

THAT'S your claim. A claim made my a human being with faults, biases, a fading memory and memories colored (now and then) by emotion.

Do you THINK we can take what you say as ABSOLUTELY FACTUAL when there are records of that era that need only be searched for said 'three days worth' of toe fungus comments?

Not on your life ...

133 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:13 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: swheats
Rush was using FR, from almost the very beginnings of this site, as his research mill. He even quoted many posts and NEVER gave us ant credit at all. Then, he turned against FR and FREEPERS. He still uses us, though.

Marrying Marta changed him the most. His hearing changed him somewhat; both the losing of and getting back.

134 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mike the lurker
I'm heading in that direction. I can't believe he actually spoke defending the all gay school today.

135 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:51 PM PDT by swheats
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To: nopardons
Alex Jones staged much of those films, which he sell to cretins.

I wouldn't doubt it -

- Alex is in it *only* for Alex ...

136 posted on 07/30/2003 9:28:33 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: nopardons
Well Sevrin has called for the "nuking" of Baghdad if our troop casualties get to high and calls all those who oppose the war in Iraq "commies" and "traitors" and then in the next breath says that we should pull out of Iraq because it is none of our business. Very schitzoid. Oh- and he has two dogs now and spends a lot of time bragging about how he gets a lot of chicks and once bragged about how he had slept with two women at once. Real secure guy.

But he did have a great show when Hillary's book came out and he played hillary doing her book on tape. His commentary was hilarious.

137 posted on 07/30/2003 9:31:14 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: _Jim
Icksnay onway ethay ohemianbay ovegray
138 posted on 07/30/2003 9:31:15 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: Consort
I was replying to your comment about ABC hireing Rush just to fire him.

I do not think Rush will let that happen, he did not get a 225 million plus contract because he was late to the party!!

139 posted on 07/30/2003 9:31:22 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: _Jim
Well, THIS woman is almost NEVER wrong. Case closed.

Hate your mother, have a messy divorce/shrew for a wife, do do ? What's YOUR obvious problem with women caused by ?

I could probably give you the dates of those three days, but, I doubt that you're man enough to tell the truth, if you even bothered to listen to those tapes.

And, psuedo man, get over yourself, grow up, and at least try to be civil. Little boys ... sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh !

140 posted on 07/30/2003 9:31:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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