Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[f.Christian]

abuse - abuse - attack ... citizen's thought police arrest - execution !

Brown shirt nazis ... don't blaspheme their blasphemy !

They don't have enough character or principles (( to much flux - evolution )) to qualify for hypocrisy - sanity - guilt - remorse !

Book (( bible )) burners too !

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Evolution is a personal attack !

If you don't believe God is the Creator - almighty ... it is impossible to be a catholic --- you are only fooling yourself !

I realize this wasn't posted to me because it's difficult to type my screen name. I'm not offended in any way and I'm still not changing it.

Back to the topic, in my opinion, evolutionary biology is still just the theory that organizes the numerous data in the field of biology. It is not an ideology. It is not a religion. It is not a belief system. It is not a conspiracy. AND (drum roll please), it DOES NOT contradict the Bible.

I realize you don't agree f.C, but that's as plain as I can say it. To my knowledge, only the anti-evos have made that claim. It's true that there are prominent biologists who are atheists, but their atheism is not dependent on evolutionary theory. They would be atheists even if they never stepped into a biology class.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

[Virginia-American]

Are you seriously trying to claim that you and yours post respectfully?

I always (almost) post respectfully.

Are 'Darwood' and 'Evoloony' respectful?

PS I don't like, and never use the word Fundie'. I think it's disrespectful. I usually use 'anti-evo' because it's more precise.

[Tribune7]

:-)

But I still believe it is impossible that our existance can be explained as the result of random chance and natural selection based on a single abiogenesis instance 3.8 billion years ago.

[aruanan]

Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

That's Phoebe.

[js1138]

post 318

I will not bring this up again. I may have misinterpreted your intent, but in any case, I am through with it.

[ALS]

patty and several other evos have made many attempts to drive a wedge between myself and AG.

This in itself reveals the severe losses the evos take on a daily basis( the REAL reason the heathen doth rage).

Such measures are fruitless.
They gave her respect as long as she didn't call them on the carpet for their behavior. Her honesty is no less for yanking out the rug.
Evo honesty has been hidden, as if they really had respect in the first place, they wouldn't treat her as if she is just to be manipulated.

how utterly ignorant of anyone to assume that is AG doesn't fight "fire with fire" that somehow makes her weak
au contraire!
She is the arbitor of both sides in this dispute.
why is there no one on the evo side that can be trusted for the same?

hmmmmmmmmmmm?

[ALS]

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js1138 whining to jen about tag team posting

hahaha!

You evos have been tag team terrorizing for years now.

again, doing it cancels out the whine

js1138 and all evos are negated by their own and FIRST behaviors in this regard

[Virginia-American]

Reagan was a creationist too.

My biggest disappointment with him ws that he only gave lip-service to abolishing the Dept. of Education.

We need to separate school and state; then these crevo threads wouldn't have any political relevance.

[Junior]

And there are those of us who believe that single abiogenesis instance 3.8 billion years ago was simply a command in the master program God set running 15 billion years ago. He set it up within His initial parameters; there is no need for Him to constantly tweak His creation.

[f.Christian]

Evolution and brainwashing is the holy grail (( dirty blankets - needles for the natives )) of liberals ...

if you have some conservatism and sanity left ... it is amazing ---

most who are infected don't --- have long separated from reality and are crazy - insane --- totally !

[ALS]

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Here comes some big time dishonesty by js1138

no news there, js1138 is well known for hoping people don't know what happened so he can simply lie

yep, lie
ben busted more than once
deal with it bucko

I remember well you complaining about graphics. The complaint was page load times. It was at that point there was a marked drop from me(i'm not responsible for others- evos). I even told js1138 that he should have told me personally rather than make a whiney stink.
He knows it, and to say the posting increased at that point is an outright lie
lie
lie <-- yeah, that means lie

[Tribune7]

And there are those of us who believe that single abiogenesis instance 3.8 billion years ago was simply a command in the master program God set running 15 billion years ago.

I know. And you're wrong.

But that doesn't make you hellbound.

[Tribune7]

We need to separate school and state; then these crevo threads wouldn't have any political relevance.

BINGO!

[Mr.Atos]

That's Phoebe.

Geez! I start one controversial post and some 500 entries later, someone is still editing my spelling!

Troll fascist!!! ...MOMMIE!

Just kidding! Yes, we covered my editing skills back when I was still naive.

In the words of "Devo" (...of all bands to quote for this thread). Lord! I am so tired. How long does this go on?

[Virginia-American]

IMHO, every post should be taken as having been made in good faith unless it can be shown that there was an intent to misrepresent or spin the facts. Honest people can disagree on their interpretation of the facts, but intentional misrepresentation fouls the discussion.

Totally in agreement.

[ALS]

Bottom line..

Of much whining there is no end.

The christian bashing and gangland style evo posting was around long long before several of us entered into these threads.

It's utterly ridiculous to blame us for YOUR behavior choices. I don't know who raised you kids, but I was taught and raised to be responisble for what I do.
The very thing (besides arrogance) that galls me regarding libs, is the practice of projecting their sins on the nearest target. I'm no more impressed by the evos when they do it.

If you people want peace, then listen for the 3rd time of my offer(that's me, not everyone else) for it.

KNOCK OFF the christian bashing!

You will notice that when you people converse without the innuendo, bashing and baiting, there IS peace.
I know several on our side have spotted this. Why on earth you kids can't learn is beyond me.
You really are all certainly intelligent enough, so what's your problem?

get it?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Evolution and brainwashing is the holy grail (( dirty blankets - needles for the natives )) of liberals ...

I agree in general that the lefties prefer ignorant crackheads as constituents. Their policies seem to produce a lot of them. However, this is not what biologists do and it's not a topic in their clasrooms or labs.

[Virginia-American]

I've always wondered about these Lurkers. Are there really people who sit around and read ther people's slanging matches, without joining in?

I did for a long time.

[ALS]

I've had several FReepers email me and tell me not only were they glad and fully supportive of me, they made mention of why they refuse to join in. They believed they would be bashed for bing a christian.

Why you people can't see that is the entire crux of the problem either reveals an inability to do so or an agenda that would be thwarted if you ceased.