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Hey, Everything Is Just Peachy Keen In Iraq
Soldiers for the Truth ^ | Pissed Off Army Officer

Posted on 07/18/2003 10:47:44 AM PDT by StatesEnemy

Edited on 07/18/2003 11:13:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Dear Col Hackworth,

I am currently on the ground in Iraq and have been since I came over the LD on 31 March.

While the Army did a great in winning the war, what is not being covered is how broke the Army logistics system is and the damage it is doing to the long term readiness and moral of the Army. The Army seems to have this NTC rotation mentality, which consists of f*** it live in the dirt and filth you only have to be here for a month. That works at NTC, but it seems no one has thought of how to sustain an Army in the field for weeks and months at a time. The answer has always been, "after a month or so, we will contract with the locals for everything."

The problem is that outside of a few areas in Kurdistan and the north, Iraq is so poor that there is nothing to contract for. Moreover, we don't trust the locals enough to contract with them even if they did have something of value. Units all over the Army came to Iraq without basic things necessary for life support in the field. I a m talking about portable sh*tters with cans that you can burn. You can't live somewhere and have everyone sh*ting in cat holes for weeks at time. Units came here without tents. The 855th MP Company, a guard company from Arizona was allowed to mobilize without any tents. They lived on the ground in the most God awful piece desert you have ever seen for over two weeks. Units came here without proper heaters for the water in their MKTs, so that when they started serving T rats, they didn't cook them enough and didn't clean the serving treys properly and everyone who ate from there got sick. If its not a life or limb issue, its nearly impossible to get medical care.

Soldiers get literally hundreds of flea or mosquito bites and they can't cream or benedril to keep the damn things from itching. The army issued mosquito netting, but didn't give anyone any poles for their cots, so the stuff is basically useless. I am not talking about bringing in the steak and lobster every week. I am talking about basic health and safety issues that continue to be neglected by the Army. Even beyond that. If we are going to be here for a year, we need to start thinking about MWR and R&R for people. You can't just lock people up in a compound and feed them T-rats and MREs for a year and expect them to be as effective at the end as they were at the beginning. To my knowledge no one has given any thought to any kind of pass or MWR activities for soldiers. Division staff sits around in their air conditioned vans watching satellite AFN goofing off on the internet and just don't give a shit about anyone else.

Meanwhile, soldiers are living in the dirt, with no mail, no phone, no contact with home, and no break from the daily monotony at all. I went to a division rear in May and practically got in a fist fight with this Captain up there over letting my private, who hadn't contacted home since we left the U.S., send an e-mail over his office's internet. This clown spends his days sending flowers to his wife and surfing the net and he won't let my private send an e-mail to her husband. F*cking disgraceful and all too typical of today's army.

The fact is, soldiers can put up with anything and will do the right thing. The problem, however, is that at some point they are going to go home and hit their ETS date. I can tell you right now, a lot of good people are going to get the hell out over this deployment. The good soldiers won't put up with this crap. They will get out and get good jobs on the outside. We are breaking the Army and the reserve corps with this deployment needlessly. I understood when the war was going on.

But the war is over. This is peacekeeping and guerrilla warfare. Our supply lines are clear. There is no excuse why basic health and safety issues and moral issues like mail cannot be addressed. They are not being addressed because the army doesn't know how anymore. Units spend their lives preparing for 2 week warfighters and one month NTC rotations and never think, "okay, how are we going to live out here for six months or a year." Its just not part of the Army's thinking anymore and it s a shame.

Pissed Off Army Officer


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KEYWORDS: iraq; logistics; military; rebuildingiraq; soldiers
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To: kms61
It's true - there are a lot of keyboard warriors and "wannabes" in the forum...

Many of the gentlemen making critical comments on this particular "officer's" conduct -- have earned to right to comment..


My comments were addressed to specific freepers -- that know of whence "we" speak....

Semper Fi
161 posted on 07/21/2003 6:27:20 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Travis McGee
One of the favorite lines in country was "what ypu gonna do to me send me to Nam, sir?. The big problem with Iraq right now is that the troops there can not tell the enemy from Iraqi civilians. Now the grunts on teh ground want to be rotated home. The 3rd ID and the Marine who did most of teh war fighting are figuring it is time for someone else to have a go at it. The disparity of accomodations between senior officers and the grunts (do they still use that term?) will really piss off the grunts. It is one thing to eat cold food niot have a regular shower and be living with the insect bites. It is a whole different situation if one sees somebody living in the lap of luxury. The logistics of resupply should damn well be working and e-mail is mail damn it. The troops should have the ability to send and recieve e-mail now. It does not take a whole lot of resources to allow them this. It used to be one could take a piece of cardboard wrapping rats and scrawl a note on it write free in teh corner with teh address and it would get home. E-mail fills taht function now and if teh troops are not getting it then somebody senior should be gettijng their butt in a sling.

Yes it si posible to live well at even a relatively primitive base and one caqn maintain at least reasonable hygene in the field but the time is limited without resupply. one can put up with bug bites whuile one is out in the bush or whatever it is called these rdays but whenit is day in day out patroling from a base that base shoud have at least some facilities for baths, decent food, bug bite lotion and bug repelent.

Iraq is not high intensity combat all they have to do is bring teh damn supplies in.

Get the guys who have done the job alrready home and put some other troopds in to pacify the Iraqis.

162 posted on 07/21/2003 7:07:10 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: river rat
You forgot the good stuff. If one useed mosquitto repellent then NVA could smell you coming. Leeches were so common no one even thought about them. Christians in action and senior officers had trailers and refrigerators with the air conditioning while you were out in the heat and humidity so that one was always hot and wet unless one got up into the highlands at night in which case one could hard as it seems to imagine transition from being hot and wet to cold and wet.

In any case I want the troops to get mail to get showers and to be treated with the respect they have earned.

163 posted on 07/21/2003 7:13:27 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
Yep, by now they should have "habitablity trailers" with showers and so on set up everywhere. There is no excuse at this point for our guys to still be living on the ground with no email or mail, etc.
164 posted on 07/21/2003 8:45:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: river rat
I guess now I understand why our recent "wars" are of the 3 to 6 week vintage....that appears to be the extent of our modern Army's ability to be in the field....

They've never trained otherwise. That is my point...

165 posted on 07/21/2003 9:23:15 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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