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To: ClearCase_guy
But it seems to me that part of what drives Ann is the feeling that the Republicans have been very calm about their politics, very factual, and responsible.

Ann is factual, therefore Ann is responsible; if anyone can show me that Ann has not been factual, then I will concede that she has not been "responsible."

As for the point that Republicans have been "very calm" about their politics, I will concede that Republicans have often been very dull and boring in their presentation, which has often made them losers politically, but which has gained them welcome tepid admiration from the people who really count: academics, media people, the New York Times. I take it too many "good Republicans" would rather have Republicans lose nobly than win by making their points in a berserk Coulteresque manner.

For my part, Ann scoring points for conservatism has never lost her any credibility with me, however mad it makes people like Jonah Goldberg, Dave Horowitz, Chris Matthews, Ellis Henican, etc.

29 posted on 07/11/2003 11:14:22 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("A rat is a dog is a pig is a....DEMOCRAT")
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To: Map Kernow
Ann is factual, therefore Ann is responsible; if anyone can show me that Ann has not been factual, then I will concede that she has not been "responsible."

I can't tell if you read me the wrong way. Just on the chance that you did: I've read Ann's books. I've read her footnotes. I consider Ann to be very factual and very responsible. I also consider her interesting and fun to read.

I see a lot of Conservatives are also factual and responsible -- but not as interesting or fun. I was attempting to make a distinction based on the "fun" part of the equation, not the "factual" or "responsible" aspects.

Cheers.

32 posted on 07/11/2003 11:24:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Map Kernow
"Ann is factual, therefore Ann is responsible; if anyone can show me that Ann has not been factual, then I will concede that she has not been "responsible." "

Check out this site. It's actually just one of many that pick Annie's stuff apart:

http://www.slannder.homestead.com/files/slanndermain.html

There's over 30 instances cited here from "Slander" that are either proven factually incorrect(e.g. attributing quotes to the wrong people) or just a plain misrepresentation of ideas and facts. Having seen Ann enough in interviews and on TV, I'm sure if she was called on most of these types of things, she'd either just say it's a lie or act like it doesn't matter.
51 posted on 07/11/2003 12:29:52 PM PDT by Sub
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