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Treason: Horowitz v. Coulter
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 7/11/03 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 07/11/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by DPB101

David Horowitz has published a long critique of Ann Coulter’s blockbuster Treason.  While David goes to great pains to express admiration for Ann’s work, he also makes it clear that he believes parts of Treason are wrong. The heart of his concern is that the Democrat Party is indicted as a co-conspirator in Treason

Horowitz believes that Democrats are not recognized in Treason for the role that they played in thwarting communism, and he points out a number of important facts which someone who only read Treason would not know.

Democrat Senator “Scoop” Jackson of Washington State was as an implacable a foe of Soviet imperialism.  Democrat  Jeanne Kirkpatrick was an eloquent defender of American resistance to totalitarianism.  Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until 1963.

That list is not exhaustive. George Meany, longtime boss of the AFL-CIO, was a steadfast enemy of Soviet machinations.  Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a principled liberal Democrat from New York, is responsible for Ann Coulter having the very Venona decrypts essential to exposing the depths of Soviet penetration of America.

Does this mean that the Coulter has reached a false conclusion about the role of the Democrat Party in the communist subversion of America? No. Treason does not necessarily mean ideological treason of sort now proven conclusively by Venona. Bill Clinton’s draft-dodging was because he was pragmatic treason.  This sort of pragmatic treason infested the Democrat Party.

Scoop Jackson was a liberal from a swing state whose career was clean as a whistle and who could appeal to anti-communists. He stood a good chance of winning the presidency, if Democrats would have ever nominated him.  Scoop ran for the nomination, but he never had a chance. His anti-communism - and only is anti-communism - doomed him from the beginning.

Jeanne Kirkpatrick was a Democrat, but her most famous speech echoes the language at the beginning of Treason which bothers Horowitz. What were those resonating refrains from Kirkpatrick’s 1984 speech to the Republican Convention? “But they always blame America first.” What was the context of her remarks?  Reelect a Republican president.

Which Republican president? The one who began his political activities as an anti-communist in Hollywood, and who came to realize that principled anti-communism was welcome only in the Republican Party, which he joined in 1963.  Joe McCarthy also began as a Democrat and then became a Republican.  Anti-communists never leave the Republican Party to become Democrats, but often have abandoned the Democrat Party or, like Kirkpatrick, become apostate Democrats.

Horowitz correctly points out that the New Left in 1968 opposed Hubert Humphrey because Humphrey opposed communism and supported the Vietnam War. But this overstates the seriousness of the anti-communism of  LBJ and Hubert Humphrey.  It also presumes a symmetry between the two political parties which simply did not exist.

The two national party conventions in 1968 approached the Vietnam War from dramatically different positions.  Humphrey - Vice President and heir apparent,  the party’s leading champion of civil rights, darling of the AFL-CIO, and universally recognized as a good and decent man - faced a passionate and ferocious attack for his anti-communism.

The New Left did not attack racial bigots within the Democrat Party like J. William Fullbright or Albert Gore Sr. These illiberal Democrats were anti-anti-communists who opposed the Vietnam War. That alone made them heroes, just as Humphrey’s support for the war alone made him a villain.

Richard Nixon began his political career as an anti-communist, but many delegates at the Republican Convention in 1968 worried that he was not anti-communist enough. When Barry Goldwater, the most passionate and radical anti-communist modern in American politics, stepped before the Republican Convention, the delegates burst into thunderous applause.

Ronald Reagan, who would win the Cold War, had only held elective office for  only two years. He had only been a Republican three years.  But Republican delegates seriously considered nominating him as the logical successor to Barry Goldwater.

The New Left did not even bother to show up at the Republican Convention. While the SDS and its crypto-Marxist siblings carried great clout among Democrats, these pro-communist groups had no support at all among Republicans. 

The pragmatic treason of Democrats is well illustrated by LBJ during the 1968 presidential campaign. While America fought a  totalitarian communist enemy, President Johnson announced, a few days before the November election, that he was unilaterally suspending bombing operations against North Vietnam.

The motivation was simple: swing the increasingly close election to Hubert Humphrey by creating an the impression that peace was at hand. Who paid the price for that political pragmatism? America and the South Vietnamese, who were deprived of critically important air power.

Was 1968 the pivotal year in how Democrats approached communism? No. Although David is correct that much of the communists infestation of the federal government was rooted out by the time Truman left office, Truman did not begin in earnest until 1947.  Truman had been president for two years - why did the housecleaning begin in 1947?  Republicans in 1946 won Congress in a huge landslide. Truman pragmatically decided that anti-anti-communism was a political liability.

But Truman continued to defend people later shown to be communists and to attack anti-communists. Truman, as Ann notes, opposed Churchill giving his famous Iron Curtain speech in Missouri. Truman famously sacked MacArthur for trying to win the Korean War, rather than  simply produce a stalemate.

Eisenhower directed his Attorney General to go n television and announce that President Truman had promoted to the leadership of the International Monetary Fund an individual known to be a communist. Why?  Eisenhower was hardly a rabid anti-communist, but he also understood that  Harry Truman had taken the easy course regarding communism in America.

And, of course, the problem of communism in America did not go away simply because the greatest actual traitors - Hiss, White, and the rest - left the most sensitive posts in the federal government. 

The Soviet Union funneled funds into the anti-war movement in America. Communists and communist sympathizers within Hollywood and academia continued to warp American opinions and policies. Would the SDS, Ramparts and the other entities so reflexively supportive of communism have been able to bedevil Hubert Humphrey in 1968 without support from communists in America and without help from Moscow?  

If Democrats were not particularly keen on anti-communism before 1968, their attitude after 1968  was profoundly anti-anti-communist.  George McGovern favored unilateral disarmament. Jimmy Carter did not discover that the Soviet Union was bad until the last year or his presidency. Clinton, visited Moscow during the Vietnam War and stating his loathing for the military during that war against communism.

Perhaps the clearest indiction of how Democrats have felt about communism is the tepid, almost annoyed, attitude Democrats take toward President Reagan’s bloodless victory in the Cold War. This is in sharp contrast to how Republicans have acted under Democrat presidents when America faced enemies. Republicans supported FDR in the Second World War, JFK in the Cuban Missile Crisis and - unlike his fellow Democrats - Republicans supported LBJ in the Vietnam War.

The single real example of Democrats being tough on communism was John Kennedy. It is revealing that Chris Matthews asked three times if Ann Coulter felt JFK was a traitor. She denies that he was, then adds that his heart was in the right place, but that is not enough for Matthews. It is not his repetitive questions that seem to trouble David; it is her answers. 

JFK was strongly anti-communist and he did resist Soviet aggression. The critique that Ann Coulter makes has less to do with JFK’s intentions than with his general incompetence at achieving those goals and with his essentially immoral and dishonest personal life.

Senator McCarthy was presumably censured for bad behavior, when that was clearly not the reason. What is the best evidence of Democrat hypocrisy on the real reasons for destroying McCarthy?  John Kennedy - faithless husband, drug addict, pal of crime bosses, vote stealer...and the list seems to grow each year - was made a martyr, when he was actually simply a victim.

McCarthy was an actual martyr, denied even the dignity of a victim. He stood up to the elites of Washington, Hollywood and New York, aware that his enemies were both powerful and unscrupulous.  Horowitz notes that McCarthy was right on almost everything. McCarthy certainly acted no worse than several thousand other congressional committee chairmen, except that McCarthy fought a real dragon. Does that not deserve some honor, even posthumously?

The Kennedy Klan looks increasingly less benign as times passes. Bobby Kennedy (aka St. Bobby) grew so hostile to anti-communism that by 1968 he was the principal focus of those very anti-anti-communist efforts intended to keep Hubert Humphrey from winning the Democrat nomination. Ted Kennedy never pretended to be anti-communist, and he formed a core of resistance to Ronald Reagan’s plan to win the Cold War.

Were Democrats all traitors - ideologically or pragmatically - during the long decades of struggle with communism? No, of course not.  But was there a profound and fundamental difference in the courage and tenacity that America’s two major political parties displayed in our long battle with the evil empire? Yes, of course there was.

Perhaps the lexicon of the New Left is helpful. During the 1960s, those timid souls who feared the real power of communism called themselves “non-communist” as opposed to “anti-communist”or “communist.” In the war against communism, Republicans leaders were “anti-traitors” and Soviet agents in America were “traitors.” What then were the Democrat leaders?  How about calling “non-traitors”?


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To: nopardons
All the little gal did was plant a seed. All the rest is fertilizer. A wonder to behold.
101 posted on 07/11/2003 8:59:26 PM PDT by GopherIt
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To: Map Kernow
Ann's book is solid on the facts---it's just the "tone" that certain people don't like. Ann's just too talented a satirist for them---makes them embarrassed before their liberal friends at cocktail parties.

I just finished "Treason" and read Horowitz' and Collins' book last winter. I really think the reason Horowitz and the Dorothy babe (whose last name I can't remember, but I read her review on FR as well as Horowitz') have objections to her book is style.

I have a kind of unusual background - ultra liberal parents and upbringing, east coast ivory tower atmosphere, parents with all kinds of degrees from pretigious east coast universities. (I left when I was 16, moved to west coast, never graduated high school - turned conservative and am the blackest of black sheep). One quality that the liberals I have seen (closer than I would like) all have is SNOBBERY. Unbelievable arrogance and snobbery. Also they do NOT have a sense of humor - they especially cannot laugh at themselves. They don't like Ann's book because it's raucus, funny, uses exaggeration for humor and to make a point. She uses vernacular that people without university education can understand. It's too low class. And coming from an east coast, highly educated lawyer, a Connecticut blue blood!! It's too much for them.

Horowitz and Dorothy aren't liberals. But they are invested in the highly educated elite myth and Ann is too coarse for them. And since Horowitz used to be a liberal, he still has that aroma, I don't know about Dorothy.

102 posted on 07/11/2003 9:08:41 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Map Kernow; Sub
Sub registered July 3 2003.....
103 posted on 07/11/2003 9:18:08 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Map Kernow; AnnaZ
My thanks to both of you for expressing what so many of the rest of us are wondering.

What in the name of Goodness causes Conservatives to put knives in the backs of those who can right wrongs and help them long term? Why is it they prefer ancient red rhetoric to analytical uprightness?
104 posted on 07/11/2003 9:52:44 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I love Ann's writings, but she got sloppy with this book

Not really. Read the second post in this thread. It shows that it was Horowitz who was sloppy.

105 posted on 07/11/2003 9:56:53 PM PDT by TBP
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To: DPB101
Thanks for the ping. Bruce had something constructive to contribute, and did.

It is interesting that many took reviews of Ann's book at face value, rather than the book. I wonder who took more time in reviewing the facts, Ann or the reviewers?

I've found that FR has many who are willing and able to comment factually, and yes, they provide actual point by point quotes to demonstrate their point, and then there is everyone else who are eager to share their opinion or feeling on a topic. Thanks for being a contributor! I've enjoyed your posts.
106 posted on 07/11/2003 11:15:50 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Spirited
"What in the name of Goodness causes Conservatives to put knives in the backs of those who can right wrongs and help them long term? Why is it they prefer ancient red rhetoric to analytical uprightness?"

About such, I'm beginning to think, if it quacks like a duck... After all, what's the difference?
107 posted on 07/11/2003 11:17:29 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: MEG33; nopardons
Emma Goldman was one of those old progressives I didn't know much about but just filed away as a name.

Until the net. Until I found out she has many admirers around today (she was named a 2002 'Woman of Valor' here). And until I found out how dangerous a person she was.

108 posted on 07/11/2003 11:17:42 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: TheDon; Dan from Michigan; sweetliberty; Floyder; PhilDragoo; LiteKeeper; jlogajan
Thanks. I thought this a good review also. 99% are emotional mud-slinging devoid of facts and filled with the cliches about McCarthy we've heard all our lives.
109 posted on 07/11/2003 11:22:07 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: GmbyMan
Bump for a later read
110 posted on 07/11/2003 11:23:33 PM PDT by GmbyMan (BRING 'EM ON!!!!!!)
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To: DPB101
Somehow, I read about Emma " THE RED MENACE " Goldman, as a teen. I think that she was mentioned in some history book, in school. Then, as has always been my wont, I found her in several books I was reading " for fun " .Her name and her antics have popped up again, in some recent books I've read. I thought that everyone knew who she was and what she had done. I guess I was wrong.

Thanks, yet again, for your wonderful research and link. I had NO idea, that she had been named ( good GOD ! )the 2002 "WOMAN OF VALOR ". " VALOR " ? Sheeeeeeeeeesh !

111 posted on 07/11/2003 11:26:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Eva
Do you know whether Horowitz's desired tent will shelter the babykillers, gungrabbers, and sodomites? I don't know that much about him...
112 posted on 07/11/2003 11:44:02 PM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: nopardons
One thing arrogant people particularly don't like is being mocked - and Ann mocks them with skill and style. I believe a lot of them are incensed that although she might get close to invective at times, it's true invective - and she hasn't sunk to writing a book with the title "Barbra Streisand is a ___ ___ Idiot."
113 posted on 07/12/2003 12:00:10 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: Eva; 185JHP
This is part of my critique on the Horowitz review from another thread: But Horowitz and some of the other non-social conservatives are frightened by the religious right, they feel just as threatened by social conservatives as moderate Democrats are feeling about the progressive take over of their party. Horowitz and Goldberg, et alias see a move to the right as a threat to the "big tent" Republicanism. So, an attack on Ann is predictable...."

Horowitz does not feel "threatened" by the Religious Right.

Having personally jousted with him on the Abortion issue on one of the "Free Republic Town Meetings" which he attended, my own personal impression is that Horowitz (like the GOP leadership in general) feels that the Religious Right is completely manageable -- well-scrubbed, hustling Rubes, not more than one generation from Poor White Trash -- who can be molded to GOP Party purposes, whatever those purposes may be.

The idea of Horowitz "fearing" the Religious Right is like the idea of a Sheep Farmer "fearing" the spring lambs.

And regardless, even if Horowitz "feared" the Religious Right -- which he doesn't; like the GOP leadership in general, he regards the Religious Right as utterly dependent upon the GOP -- he certainly does not consider ANN COULTER, of all people, a representative of the "Religious Right"; because she isn't.

Look, I like Ann Coulter as much as the next red-blooded American Conservative male, but fer cryin' out loud -- she's a former Paramour of Bob Guccione, jr., the publisher of PENTHOUSE Magazine. An "exemplar" of the Religious Right? Yeah sure!! Who's next, Madonna??

Ann Coulter has about as much to do with the Religious Right as a Ham Sandwich has to do with an Orthodox Jew. David Horowitz does not regard Coulter as having anything whatsoever to do with the Religious Right, and in that he is correct -- she doesn't.

The Horowitz-Coulter argument is purely a matter of GOP Tactics, nothing more. Both parties involved regard the Religious Right as expendable GOP assets (which is all that the Religious Right is, anymore), and neither party to the dispute cares a hill of beans for the concerns of the Religious Right, except to the extent that the Religious Right serves the political advantage of the GOP.

Which is all that they are really arguing about.

This is a tactical dispute between two GOP Tacticians -- THAT'S ALL. The only concern which either of them (the Ex-Communist, or the Ex-Penthouse-Paramour) have for the Religious Right is the same as the GOP in general:

OP

114 posted on 07/12/2003 12:15:01 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ouch. But thanks.
115 posted on 07/12/2003 12:19:42 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: 185JHP
Yes, you're right! :-)

But also, the left hates anyone for even attempting to tell the facts about their pet hobbyhorses...errrr, I mean heros. And woe be unto them, who show/prove what they've been up to all of these decades.

116 posted on 07/12/2003 12:21:45 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: 185JHP
So she does...Treason page 243:
Jimmy Carter claimed to have been attacked by a giant swimming rabbit. That's really all you need to know about Democrats...Instead of relentlessly attacking the military...liberals might have the good grace to realize they live in a country where big burly men are willing to protect them from bullies. As far as I am aware, the military does not interfere in the fashion industry. They don't have a lot of opinions about Broadway plays or write poetry like Clinton's secretary of defense...Why can't liberals let men defend the country?

117 posted on 07/12/2003 12:24:15 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Leftists tend not to like merit winning the day - and what is more meritorious than a military victory? FReegards
118 posted on 07/12/2003 12:38:47 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: nopardons
Thanks. BTW did you know that Ed Markey now has breast cancer? - I'm not making this up.
119 posted on 07/12/2003 12:40:49 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: 185JHP
Leftists tend not to like merit winning the day - and what is more meritorious than a military victory?

That explains why they are always giving atomic bomb secrets to enemies of America . They want to make things fair. They want a level playing field. They want to make a difference,

120 posted on 07/12/2003 12:52:41 AM PDT by DPB101
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