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Another Anti-Semitic Canard Dies
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| Friday, July 11, 2003
| By Nathan Guttman
Posted on 07/10/2003 11:53:56 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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posted on
07/10/2003 11:56:33 PM PDT
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump - very interesting. All the conspiratists over the years had screamed at Israel for lying about the attack, and for nefarious American supporters for not pursuing the issue.
Now I wonder what we still don't know about what the Liberty was really doing so quietly that the Israelis didn't know she was there.
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posted on
07/11/2003 12:00:46 AM PDT
by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: JohnHuang2
Don't boats actually have to sink to call a "sinking"?
How is that the facts can be wrong starting with the first line...
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posted on
07/11/2003 12:44:19 AM PDT
by
DB
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To: txzman
Bump - very interesting. All the conspiratists over the years had screamed at Israel for lying about the attack, and for nefarious American supporters for not pursuing the issue. It probably won't make much difference to the Israel-haters and crypto-anti-Semites...
An Israeli is visiting America when three men start berating him over the sinking of the Liberty. The men shower abuse upon him, ignoring his protests that the sinking was a tragic accident caused by the fog of war. Finally, the Israeli raises his eyes skyward.
"Oh, Lord! I know in my heart that the state you have given the Jewish people would never deliberately attack a friend and ally! Please, give these men a sign, and show that I am right!"
Thunder crashes! Lightning strikes! The clouds part, and a single sunbeam shines on the Israeli. A voice from the heavens booms "HE'S RIGHT!"
For a moment, the three men are taken aback. Then their leader shrugs.
"So? Now it's three to two."
To: txzman
Guttman is full of shit... just ask the sailors of the Liberty...
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:01:21 AM PDT
by
alphadog
(die commie scum)
To: Slings and Arrows
ROTFL.
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:28:57 AM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: alphadog
Yeah, you tell 'em, brother! Keep the faith, baby!
(And there were no crematoria at Auschwitz! I know, because David Irving told me so! And Hitler was just defending Germany against International Jewry! Yeah!)
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:30:59 AM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: alphadog
The truth hurts, I'd imagine. ...But by all means, continue to hold fast to your delusion if it makes you feel better.
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:38:53 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: JohnHuang2
"Israel has always said it had no idea the ship was American..." Is this so ? I cannot recall when Israel first voiced this claim, but was it not long after (i.e., years after ?) the incident occurred ? Can you tell me, for the record, when Israel first gave this explanation ? My recollection was that, at the time the incident took place, Israel did not make such a claim.
To: mrustow
Thank you very much - I wasn't sure it was a joke.
To: alphadog
Guttman is full of shit... just ask the sailors of the Liberty...
I guess it's been long enough that we can call our Navy boys who were there liars and support the NSA politically correct version of history. I'll take the word of the Captain and crew over the word of the bureauocrats anyday.
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:31:27 AM PDT
by
steve50
(I don't know about being with "us", but I'm with the Constitution)
To: JohnHuang2
Notice the Liberty's large satelite dish. No Egyption boat had this sort of state of the art communications facilities.
This is a photo of an Israeli pre-attack reconnaissance pass, one of eight such aircraft which circled thirteen times. The surviving crew said the planes often passed directly overhead so low that they rattled the deck plating.
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:30:36 AM PDT
by
Jeff F
To: steve50
I guess it's been long enough that we can call our Navy boys who were there liars and support the NSA politically correct version of history. I'll take the word of the Captain and crew over the word of the bureauocrats anyday. Why? Were they flying the planes that attacked the ship?
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:35:32 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: Jeff F
Interesting. In both pics, no American flag.
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:36:18 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: steve50
I guess it's been long enough that we can call our Navy boys who were there liars and support the NSA politically correct version of history. I'll take the word of the Captain and crew over the word of the bureauocrats anyday. How would anybody on that ship know what the Israeli pilots were thinking?
Or does that dish on the bow do more that they admit? < /tinfoil >
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:53:18 AM PDT
by
TomB
To: AppyPappy
In the first photo, the ship is in port and would not be expected to fly its flag. The perspective of the second photo does not include the flag. Here is a photo of the damaged ship arriving in Malta with her American flag clearly visible. This is the same size flag that was displayed the morning of the attack. Notice also the very large TRSSCOMM moon relay antenna on the aft. The ship was clearly not Egyptian.
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:59:31 AM PDT
by
Jeff F
To: Jeff F
It's pretty reckless IMO to turn the Pentagon into a Jewish group-think tank.I'm looking at a still shot and I can't tell. How can a fighter pilot tell when he is zooming in a 500 knots?
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:01:25 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: AppyPappy
As you can see the recon aircraft is something in the class of a slow flying DC-3 which made multiple very close passes. The balance of the evidence supports the fact the attackers knew this was a U.S. ship.
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:08:33 AM PDT
by
Jeff F
To: Jeff F
The balance of the evidence supports the fact the attackers knew this was a U.S. ship. If they knew, why were they talking about an Egyptian ship? The radio transmissions, now verified by the US government, supports the Israelis claim that they thought it was an Egyptian ship. There is NO evidence that the Israelis knew it was an American ship. No evidence at all. Only Monday Morning Quarterbacking (ie they should have known).
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:12:06 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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