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To: Reaganwuzthebest
They are in favor of these trade deals like NAFTA, which aren't doing much for us economically.

Only as a step in the right direction, toward TRUE free trade. As you have previously been informed.

Illegal immigrants continue to pour in while real wages decline.

Nafta causes illegal immigration? Hmmm, if they have jobs at home making sneakers to our detriment, why do they need to come here?

That was my point from the beginning, the organization is losing credibility among many conservatives over their positions.

You don't speak for conservatives as I have pointed out. And the Cato Institute isn't concerned with credibilty among any particular group. They seek to convince people in and out of government to adopt public policy which will further freedom and free markets as a means to return to a path which will lead to harmony and abundance at as high a level as possible.

123 posted on 07/10/2003 10:43:55 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
Nafta causes illegal immigration?

Where did I say NAFTA caused illegal immigration? All I said was it's done nothing to stem it like Phil Gramm and others promised it would. What NAFTA has done though is lower real wages by the fact so many manufacturing jobs are moving out leaving us with only the low-paying service ones. When you combine that with explosive illegal immigration, it is a recipe for disaster.

You don't speak for conservatives as I have pointed out.

Well thank God you're here to point it all out for us. Again, where was it said I spoke for conservatives? I'm going by what I'm reading and hearing and very few of them support mass immigration, amnesties, guest worker programs, and free trade deals that are putting so many American out of work. I certainly don't go along with those policies and will support those candidates who agree with me. And there are a growing number in Congress who do, and not democrats either.

125 posted on 07/10/2003 10:57:55 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Protagoras
Hmmm, if they have jobs at home making sneakers to our detriment, why do they need to come here?

Most illegal immigrants are coming from Mexico, not Asia, though quite a few are from China. If Vietnam were on our border and the workers were making .20 an hour assembling sneakers they'd be crossing the border by the thousands instead.

126 posted on 07/10/2003 11:11:13 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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