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BREAKING: Conned big time "CIA Witness" to White House Lying about Intel story found to be FRAUD
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | July 9, 2003 | Doug Thompson

Posted on 07/09/2003 4:04:00 PM PDT by Doug Thompson

Damn, I hate it when I've been had and I've been had big time.

In 1982, while I was working for Congressman Manuel Lujan of New Mexico, a man came up to a me during a gathering in Albuquerque and introduced himself as Terrance J. Wilkinson. He said he was a security consultant and gave me a business card with his name and just a Los Angeles phone number.

A few weeks later, he called my Washington office and asked to meet for lunch. He seemed to know a lot about the nuclear labs in New Mexico and said he had conducted "security profiles" for both Los Alamos and Sandia National Labs. Lujan served on the committee with oversight on both labs and he offered his services if we ever needed briefings.

We already had nuclear experts on the committee, on loan from the Department of Energy, and we never used Wilkinson for briefings but we kept in touch over the years. He said he had served in Vietnam with Army Special Force, worked for Air America, later for the FBI and as a consultant for the CIA. He said he had helped other Republican members of Congress I called some friends in other GOP offices and they said yes, they knew Terry Wilkinson.

"You can trust him, he's one of the good guys," one chief of staff told me. When I left politics and returned to journalism, Wilkinson became a willing, but always unnamed, source.

Over the last couple of years, Wilkinson served as either a primary or secondary source on a number of stories that have appeared in Capitol Hill Blue regarding intelligence activities. In early stories, I collaborated his information with at least one more source. His information usually proved accurate and, over time, I came to depend on him as a source without additional backup.

On Tuesday, we ran a story headlined "White House admits Bush wrong about Iraqi nukes." For the first time, Wilkinsson said he was willing to go on the record and told a story about being present, as a CIA contract consultant, at two briefings with Bush. He said he was retired now and was fed up and wanted to go public.

"He (Bush) said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said in our story. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."

After the story ran, we received a number of emails or phone calls that (1) either claimed Wilkinson was lying or (2) doubted his existence. I quickly dismissed the claims. After all, I had known this guy for 20+ years and had no doubt about his credibility. Some people wanted to talk to him, so I forwarded those requests on to him via email. He didn't answer my emails, which I found odd. I should have listened to a bell that should have been going off in my ear.

Today, a White House source I know and trust said visitor logs don't have any record of anyone named Terrance J. Wilkinson ever being present at a meeting with the President. Then a CIA source I trust said the agency had no record of a contract consultant with that name. "Nobody, and I mean nobody, has ever heard of this guy," my source said.

I tried calling Terry's phone number. I got a recorded message from a wireless phone provider saying the number was no longer in service. I tried a second phone number I had for him. Same result.

Then a friend from the Hill called.

"You've been had," she said. "I know about this guy. He's been around for years, claiming to have been in Special Forces, with the CIA, with NSA. He hasn't worked for any of them and his name is not Terrance Wilkinson."

Both of his phone numbers have Los Angeles area codes but an identity check through Know-X today revealed no record of anyone named Terrance J. Wilkinson ever having lived in LA or surrounding communities.

His email address turns out to be a blind forward to a free email service where anyone can sign up and get an email account. Because it was not one of the usual "free" services like Hotmail, Yahoo or such, I did not recognize it as one (although you'd think that someone like me would have known better).

The bottom line is that someone has been running a con on me for 20 some years and I fell for it like a little old lady in a pigeon drop scheme. I've spent the last two hours going through the database of Capitol Hill Blue stories and removing any that were based on information from Wilkinson (or whoever he is). I've also removed his name, quotes and claims from Tuesday's story about the White House and the uranium claims.

Erasing the stories doesn't erase the fact that we ran articles containing informattion that, given the source, were most likely inaccurate. And it doesn't erase the sad fact that my own arrogance allowed me to be conned.

It will be a long time (and perhaps never) before I trust someone else who comes forward and offers inside information. The next one who does had better be prepared to produce a birth certificate, a driver's license and his grandmother's maiden name.

Any news publication exists on the trust of its readers. Because I depended on a source that was not credible, I violated the trust that the readers of Capitol Hill Blue placed in me.

I was wrong. I am sorry.

© Copyright 2003 by Capitol Hill Blue


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To: Imal
the beast you confront is one whom you would never wish to see in the light of day, or in your darkest dreams.

Nah, I look forward to seeing them wander within my swing zone. That's what FR is about, getting these creeps into the figurative cross hairs.

1,161 posted on 07/11/2003 4:38:26 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: redlipstick; All
I turned on Fox when somone was ending his opinion of a conpiracy .Did you hear it?
1,162 posted on 07/11/2003 4:41:51 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: ArneFufkin
That's what FR is all about, getting those creeps into the figurative cross hairs.

All keyboards firing! The combined skills and intelligence here WILL do it.

1,163 posted on 07/11/2003 4:43:36 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: MEG33
No, I'm out of the TV room right now. Drat!
1,164 posted on 07/11/2003 4:44:03 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Imal
When our supreme court justices explain their decisions have to adjust to World Court norms,I am aware of the world government threats.There are those who would undermine their own country for their ideals.It rings of the Communist belief that man can change the world.
1,165 posted on 07/11/2003 4:50:11 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Miss Marple
"I wish I could remember about Lytel's wife. I think she had some connection to something important as well, but my memory is failing me."

You are correct. I remember this as well. If I remember correctly, she also went to Cornell, and they were holding weekend symposiums for liberal causes. I can even remember some of the pages that read things about her on. Some of them have been "scrubbed clean".

1,166 posted on 07/11/2003 5:02:43 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("We are facing something familiar, but they are facing something new." GWB 8/3/2000)
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To: Doug Thompson
Thanks. The level of deception anti-freedom socialists are using to undermine President Bush, this republic, is frightening. Thanks for freeing yourself from the stranglehold Terrance J. Wilkerson had around your neck. A 20+ year plant?
1,167 posted on 07/11/2003 5:09:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ArneFufkin
Nah, I look forward to seeing them wander within my swing zone. That's what FR is about, getting these creeps into the figurative cross hairs.

The drones are easy pickings. It's the queen that has me worried.

I used to think most of this craziness could be attributed to stupidity. What a surprise to find out it was malice after all.

1,168 posted on 07/11/2003 5:31:06 AM PDT by Imal (The currents of history are running strong and swift through our time.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Do you happen to remember if this was on a Guild thread that we were looking for information on Lytel? When I do a search for him I am not getting nearly as much information as I got a couple of years ago.
1,169 posted on 07/11/2003 5:34:16 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MEG33
It rings of the Communist belief that man can change the world.

Bullseye. The scary part is that they are doing it, and have been doing it on a grand scale for more than a century.

This is not benign political parlor talk. The people pulling the strings are cold-blooded murderers, with a legacy and inheritance of terror, enslavement and genocide.

And they're just getting warmed up.

1,170 posted on 07/11/2003 5:35:51 AM PDT by Imal (The currents of history are running strong and swift through our time.)
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To: Miss Marple
Yes, I believe that it was a Guild investigation. I have never been able to figure out how to get back to those threads easily.
1,171 posted on 07/11/2003 5:37:18 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("We are facing something familiar, but they are facing something new." GWB 8/3/2000)
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To: Imal
With their useful idiots!
1,172 posted on 07/11/2003 5:43:08 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Miss Marple
Much of it was well before the new search engine features.

I think I do have a pile of old files on the Lytel discussions.

Not sure if it was all part of the same topic, but there was also some web site we were digging on about the same time related to one of Clinton's cronies called "Simon" , which may be linked. The players included some old 70s SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) types, one guy part of the Chicago Democratic convention riots. There was also some guy who was on the board of a company/profit & notforprofit which had names along the lines of "Greenstar" or "greenstar foundation." It had received funding from the Clinton Energy Dept to provide solar powered internet/sat phone access to palestinian neighborhood ad underdeveloped places in Pakistan too, I believe. (How intersting.) when I visited the site it had a stupidly distorted version of an old saying where they had totally lost the meaning as a slogan: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, give a man a pole, and he eats for a year or for life, etc." Of course, it SHOULD have said "teach a man to fish" instead of "give him a pole." These are libs, though. They ALWAYS have to leave people dependent on them to steal for them, even if it means swiping fishing poles.

Funny how our energy department very well could have been providing communication in terrorist country.

Maybe I can find the info stored here- wherever I put it.

1,173 posted on 07/11/2003 5:50:57 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Miss Marple
There was another character called Jock Gill. Again, I don't remember if there was a tye in to these others, but for some reason it all came up at about the same time.
1,174 posted on 07/11/2003 5:58:45 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Miss Marple
there was another group around the elections we were digging in- "trustthepeople"
1,175 posted on 07/11/2003 6:31:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: hoosiermama
SO what else do we know about Greg Thielmann?

HBefore joining the State Department, he worked as an aide to a left-wing congressman... forget the name. John something, of Iowa. I think he's a senator now, or became one...

Anyone notice the pattern?

1,176 posted on 07/11/2003 6:34:39 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (There's no place like 192.0.0.1 There's no place like 192.0.0.1 There's no place like...)
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To: piasa
I will do some digging later today. I have some work I need to get done and have to leave for a bit.

Thanks for the clues and memory-joggers. I will see what I can find out.

1,177 posted on 07/11/2003 6:35:32 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: TaxRelief
"Whats does he look like? Age, height, eye color, etc? Any distinguishing features? The more details the better..."


1,178 posted on 07/11/2003 7:03:35 AM PDT by Princeton
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To: PGalt
"The level of deception anti-freedom socialists are using to undermine President Bush, this republic, is frightening."

The Dems euphemistic 'war rooms' are real and full of deadly serious intentions. . .

. . .just when you cannot imagine a 'worse case scenario'; the Demrats will come up with it.

1,179 posted on 07/11/2003 7:13:48 AM PDT by cricket
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To: piasa; Miss Marple
piasa,

Here's a post where you list Lytel, Gill, Simon, Michael North (Greenstar), and many more:

Democrats.com Advisory Board - post #13, from the thread: March 24th Update from RATS.com - 03/24/2001

Also: Democrats.com declares war on FR (Thread III) research reveals Democrats.com ties to DNC & Clinton - 02/11/2001

1,180 posted on 07/11/2003 7:23:27 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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