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Department of Education Home Page Chart (I can't believe this is there!)
U.S. Department of Education Web Site ^ | Dept. of Education

Posted on 07/07/2003 4:46:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster

Here is the chart currently on the home page of the Dept. of Ed. web site:

Could there be a better argument for immediate abolition of the Dept. of Education? Can you believe this is where it is at?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: education; educationnews; homeschoollist; literacy; nclb; nochildleftbehind; spending
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In the event that someone at the Dept. of Education wakes up and yanks this damning evidence of their own ineffectiveness, here is an alternate location for the chart.
1 posted on 07/07/2003 4:46:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: *Education News; *Homeschool_list
Has this been posted before?
3 posted on 07/07/2003 4:53:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: jodenkoekje
No telling. I'm still shaking my head in amazement.
4 posted on 07/07/2003 4:54:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
bump for later
5 posted on 07/07/2003 4:54:05 AM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: FreedomPoster
If the numbers on this chart are valid, then it is pretty damning. The weasals who work in our Government would not want people to consider this sort of data at length. The teachers unions and their vile representatives will likely go far out of their way to dispute the reality.

It was Hitler who once boasted in his famous book that it was through public education that he would conquer societies. Stalin made similar comments. Public education in our Society is a disaster, and it is getting worse. The teachers unions are comprised of nothing less than Social Marxists who do not have the best interests of posterity in mind. They are generally speaking short sighted people with a very selfish agenda.
6 posted on 07/07/2003 4:55:11 AM PDT by Radix
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To: FreedomPoster
I can't believe it!!! Well,hmmm I guess I can..... we are in deep du du......
7 posted on 07/07/2003 4:56:44 AM PDT by .45MAN
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BTW, I first saw this at Jerry Pournelle's site here:
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/view264.html#Sunday

Jerry is arguable the first blogger, and is just a wonder. He is a very interesting person, a modern Renaissance man.
8 posted on 07/07/2003 4:58:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
/arguable/arguably/
9 posted on 07/07/2003 4:59:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
And keep in mind that the Fed only accounts for about 6% of education funding. It would be nice to see a state by state comparison chart, but just by doing the arithmatic the number is staggering.
10 posted on 07/07/2003 5:00:12 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: FreedomPoster
Do you have the URL for the page that uses that graph?
11 posted on 07/07/2003 5:02:02 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
Here it the link you asked for.

http://www.ed.gov/images/title-one.jpg
12 posted on 07/07/2003 5:05:25 AM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: Radix
HEAR! HEAR!!

SUPPORT VOUCHERS! BREAK THE UNIONS! SAVE THE CHILDREN!
13 posted on 07/07/2003 5:05:52 AM PDT by jocon307 (I oughta be ashamed of myself)
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To: FreedomPoster
I could almost laugh. Almost.
14 posted on 07/07/2003 5:09:27 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: FreedomPoster
Note the reading scores are not posted post 1999. I would assume we will either have an improvement in reading scores OR some educators will be looking for funding somewhere else. Accountability is part of the bill that was passed, along with increases in funding.

The reason you know the accountability is starting to kick in is because the NEA is howling that this isn't fair, local schools don't have enough money, etc. etc.

15 posted on 07/07/2003 5:09:55 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: FreedomPoster
What did you expect? Our teachers themselves can't read effectively, alot of them end sentences in double negatives! Our children are being taught Ebonics instead of English, wakeup folks!
16 posted on 07/07/2003 5:10:41 AM PDT by D. Miles
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To: FreedomPoster
A picture is worth a thousand words, but this one is worth many billions of dollars
17 posted on 07/07/2003 5:15:14 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: FreedomPoster
I'm not defending the Deptartment of Education, but a couple points:

The student performance is going down. That's bad, period.

The graph is a bit misleading because it doesn't acount for:

  1. The number of students (i.e. dollars per student is a better measurement than dollars)
  2. Inflation

It's possible that the dollars per student, in some "constant" dollar, hasn't gone up as dramatically as the graph indicates, and it is also possible that the increase in dollars per student is even -MORE- dramatic.

18 posted on 07/07/2003 5:19:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MattMa
Thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for. The URL for the Dept of Ed's main page is http://www.ed.gov/ and I'm looking for the particular page of that website that used the graph. I wanted to see the entire page, not just the graph itself.
19 posted on 07/07/2003 5:20:14 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Cboldt
No arguments, but I didn't produce the graph, a government employee did. It's still pretty damning.
20 posted on 07/07/2003 5:21:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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