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G.O.P. Senate Bid May Take the Fall, for Bush's Sake
N Y Times ^ | 06/30/2003 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:26:13 AM PDT by Phlap

Gov. George E. Pataki and the Republican machinery he controls are determined to rally a huge voter turnout for President Bush next year, in a bid meant to bring New York Republicans the sort of national stature that has eluded them since the days of Nelson A. Rockefeller.

But in an intriguing subplot, Mr. Pataki and his advisers appear to have all but abandoned plans to seriously challenge Senator Charles E. Schumer, a popular Democrat, mindful that it would mobilize the opposition and thus undermine Mr. Bush's prospects in New York.

Publicly, Republicans are still talking about waging a tough fight against Mr. Schumer in 2004. But privately, people in Mr. Pataki's inner circle say the party has begun shifting its priorities, determined to make Mr. Bush's campaign competitive in New York, even if that means writing off the Senate race.

"Schumer is going to get a pass," said one high-ranking Pataki official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "I'm not saying the party won't find a candidate to run against Schumer. But they're really not serious."

A senior Pataki adviser said, "For New York to be competitive in the presidential contest, it's important not to rile up the core Democratic base, effectively giving Schumer a pass on a race we probably can't win anyway."

These and other Republicans say the sudden shift in the party's priorities reflects the surprising level of support that Mr. Bush has picked up in New York, a heavily Democratic state that no Republican presidential candidate has won since Ronald Reagan swept it in 1984.

A poll recently released by Marist College, for example, showed that 58 percent of voters who were surveyed in New York rated Mr. Bush's job performance as good or excellent.

But as much as anything else, the strategy also underscores another hard political reality that New York Republicans have been forced to reckon with: the early electoral strength of Mr. Schumer, who has already amassed nearly $15 million in his war chest and whose job-approval rating is at an impressive 58 percent in recent polls.

At the same time, Republican Party officials in New York have had a difficult time recruiting strong candidates to run against the senator.

Not only has Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York and a titan of the state party, apparently decided not to enter the 2004 Senate race. But also, Republican officials say that one other rising star in the party — Randy A. Daniels, the secretary of state in the Pataki administration — has rebuffed repeated invitations from the party to try unseating Mr. Schumer.

Mr. Daniels declined to comment last week. But people close to him said his decision to stay out of the race stemmed partly from his belief that the party had no interest in spending the money and campaign resources it would take to beat Mr. Schumer. Mr. Daniels has also made it clear that he would prefer to run for governor in 2006, according to leading party officials.

"I think it's safe to say that we've thrown in the towel on the Schumer race," said one senior Republican strategist with close ties to the New York party leadership.

The Schumer camp, for its part, is playing down any suggestion that Republicans plan to mount only a nominal challenge, perhaps out of concern that that would lead to complacency among his own supporters.

At the same time, Democrats close to Mr. Schumer are arguing — it is difficult to tell how seriously — that a wealthy candidate may emerge from the shadows at any point and use his or her own money to bankroll a campaign against the senator.

Indeed, Georgette Mosbacher, a prominent Republican fund-raiser and the former wife of Robert Mosbacher, the secretary of commerce under George H. W. Bush, has approached state party officials expressing an interest in running against Mr. Schumer, according to a high-ranking state Republican official. A guest who answered the phone at Ms. Mosbacher's home yesterday said that she was not at home and could not be reached for comment.

Phil Singer, a spokesman for Mr. Schumer, would not comment on the matter beyond saying: "Chuck is doing what he always does, working hard for the people of New York. Chuck always says, `Work hard and everything works out all right.' "

As for helping Mr. Bush win New York in 2004, state Republicans acknowledge that the odds are against them in a state where registered Democrats far outnumber Republicans. But if nothing else, these Republicans say, the party wants to begin an all-out drive to make Mr. Bush appear competitive in the state.

That alone would be a major victory for New York Republicans, potentially unnerving national Democrats and forcing them to spend money and time in a state that Democratic presidential candidates usually win with ease.

"The test of the Republican Party in New York is how well we are able to organize ourselves and make New York competitive in the presidential race next year," said State Senator Nicholas A. Spano, an influential Republican from Westchester County.

One major factor working in the state party's favor is that President Bush's advisers have put together a re-election strategy built around holding the national party's nominating convention in New York City, just in time for the third anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"If the convention goes well, it could give Bush a big bump in New York," one Republican official said.

Republicans say the best way to bolster Mr. Bush's prospects in New York is to rally support in the heavily Republican precincts of upstate New York and in the suburbs of New York City, while trying not to rile the city's predominantly Democratic voters.

Republican leaders in New York are in no way discounting the likelihood that no matter what they do, Democrats will turn out in large numbers in 2004 because it is, after all, a presidential election year.

But the strategic thrust of the Republican effort boils down to this: Why pick a fight with Mr. Schumer, a tough and well-financed political brawler? Republicans are concerned that Mr. Schumer could, in turn, rally his supporters, particularly labor unions and minority voters, with an aggressive campaign of his own.

"What you don't want to do is stir up their base," said the Pataki adviser, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The high-ranking Pataki official acknowledged that the strategy did have a drawback. "You would think this would give Democrats less reason to ramp up," the official said. "But the theory may not hold, because turnout automatically goes up in a presidential election year."


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Given the source I am at best skeptical.
1 posted on 06/30/2003 5:26:13 AM PDT by Phlap
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To: Phlap
This would only make sense if Bush needed New York in order to win re-election. He doesn't.

He might win it anyway, but the senate race has nothing to do with it.

2 posted on 06/30/2003 5:32:33 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Phlap
I guess I don't understand NY politics.

Let's see. If GWB (R) is the Presidential candidate, he might win NY if the Pubs (R) don't challenge Schumer (D).

But, if the Pubs (R) challenge Schumer (D) with a strong challenge candidate (R), the GWB (R) might lose NY.

What a win-win philosophy, the NY Pubbies (R) have: GWB win; Schumer win. [This philosophy will fill the Pubbie coffers in NY to overflowing!]

Hmmmm....wonder if that same logic will apply to Blance Lincoln (D-AR) and all the other Democrat incumbents?
3 posted on 06/30/2003 5:48:15 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Phlap
Total BS.
4 posted on 06/30/2003 5:49:11 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Phlap
CAPTION Chuckie Schumer at NYC Gay Parade
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/937802/posts
5 posted on 06/30/2003 6:14:18 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Dog Gone
Its just spin form the Republican party in New York
to try to come up with an excuse for the fact they
plan on giving Schumer a pass in this election.

6 posted on 06/30/2003 6:16:33 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: Dog Gone
But privately, people in Mr. Pataki's inner circle say the party has begun shifting its priorities, determined to make Mr. Bush's campaign competitive in New York, even if that means writing off the Senate race.

Not that I trust the source at all, but if true that would be one incredibly foolish strategy.

7 posted on 06/30/2003 6:19:17 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Phlap
I only like bologna with mustard. Where's the mustard?
8 posted on 06/30/2003 6:20:10 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Princeliberty
I think it's spin to come up with an excuse why the NY GOP has a severe shortage of decent candidates.

I hope Georgette Mosbacher runs. She is filthy rich from her divorce settlement from a Texas oilman.

9 posted on 06/30/2003 6:22:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Phlap
I dont think it's that they plan to GIVE Schumer a pass.

I just don't think they have a candidate. If they have one, thet're keeping him/her under some serious wraps.
10 posted on 06/30/2003 6:25:11 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: firebrand; NYC GOP Chick
comments?
11 posted on 06/30/2003 6:30:39 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Um - wierd. But I've found it much easier to understand NY when I stopped expecting it to make sense.

Oh yeah, and The Yankees Suck. :)

12 posted on 06/30/2003 6:38:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: JohnnyZ
This makes a lot of sense. The Republicans should use this strategy in all the states. Why offend the Democrats by running a candidate against them? Maybe we can agree to a truce with them to keep Bush in office. Being competitive is such a strain when the Republicrat Party should be working together to screw the public.
13 posted on 06/30/2003 6:56:28 AM PDT by meenie
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To: meenie
There's one unmentioned flaw in this logic, which the GOP isn't exploiting.....W will be at the top of the ticket in '04....thus Schumer will have to be the beneficiary of massive ticket splitting....I've seen some notional studies that this can cost the second spot as much as 10% of his vote....also, ticket-splitting is way to difficult for most New Yorkers...(g)
14 posted on 06/30/2003 7:03:41 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: hellinahandcart
Giuliani?

How about ol' whatshisname that lost to Hillary?
Surely he could beat Schumer?
15 posted on 06/30/2003 7:17:26 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: meenie
bttt
16 posted on 06/30/2003 7:22:05 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: hellinahandcart; firebrand
1) I think the state GOP is holding its fire until 2006, when we can put our (alleged) best and brightest against the Enemy of All that is Decent and Good.

2) Schumer has far greater Jewish support than she does, and that matters a lot in this state. Going to back to Point #1, she's more vulnerable on that.

17 posted on 06/30/2003 7:54:57 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: William Creel
I don't know much about him, but I like his website and I like that he is willing to take on this challenge. Scummer(not a typo) has $30m which is going to be tough to take on. NY is pretty D to begin with. What about Benjamin's poor showing against Nadler several years ago. I understand that Nadler has a hard time campaigning because of his size...but I have also heard that he lost a bunch of weight with surgury. I haven't seen/heard much about it since.
NY is a very big state...I am surprised that the Rs can't find anyone to run against him. Why not be like the Ds and dig up the a fossil...what about D'Amato...Senator Pothole?
19 posted on 06/30/2003 10:01:39 AM PDT by Abram
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