[Polycarp]

I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party.

But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice,

[Izzy Dunne]

Perhaps someone can explain to me:
1... Why is was better to have the police power to break into someone's house (on a false police report by a neighbor) than to let people be?
2... How many people abstain from this sort of behavior simply BECAUSE OF THE LAW AGAINST IT?
3... Do you really think that putting the two original sex partners in this case in prison (with umpteen thousand other male inmates) is likely to REDUCE their homosexual behavior?

[TheCrusader]

Great article. This is why I voted for Pat Buchanan. He's not always right, but you know who he is, and you get what you vote for with men like him. What we need right now is Federal Legislation to counteract this devious Supreme Court decision. And if they should overthrow that with a declaration that the legislation is unConstitutional, then we need a Constitutional Amendment defining American marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman. Christians are losing a lot of ground in the U.S., and it's mainly because we don't unite and fight this crap.

[ExSoldier]

This has nothing to do with the GOP. Ahem, ~adjusts tin foil hat, flips switch so that lights blink and funny little prop spins~ THIS is all about the New World Order and globalism. Reagan wasn't a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, but his VP and future President, HW Bush, was a former director of CFR as was a majority of the Reagan cabinet. Sandra Day O'Connor is CFR so is Souter, Ginsberg and Kennedy. ONE MORE CFR Justice on the High Court and you can kiss liberty and the Constitution goodbye!

GW Bush is not CFR but again, the majority of his cabinet are members. You want to know more about this looming threat to our freedom? Read these books available from American Opinion Book services at http://www.jbs.org Shadows of Power by James Perloff and Global Tyranny: Step by Step and I forget the author, just now.

[Drew68]

Every four years without fail, Christians are bamboozled into believing that their beloved Republican Party will restore this nation to its Christian heritage.

Ain't gonna happen.

The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy. The Republicans know this.

If the Republicans ran under a platform of "restoring this nation to its Christian heritage" they would not win many elections --not the ones that count, anyways.

[onedoug]

As the ancient Hebraic channeling of male sexuality into heterosexual marriage was the anchor of Western civilization, so that chain becomes ever more thoroughly broken.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Every four years without fail, the Republican Party instructs [gun owners, low-tax advocates, etc.] to elect Republicans to office so that we can thwart the left wing agenda of the Democratic Party.

Every four years without fail, the Republican Establishment warns its rank and file never to vote for a third party candidate, lest we elect a Democrat by default by "giving him the election".

Every four years without fail, [gun owners, low-tax advocates, etc.] are told that third party candidates cannot win, and that a vote for a third party candidate is somehow a vote for the Democrat.

Every four years without fail, [gun owners, low-tax advocates, etc.] are bamboozled into believing that their beloved Republican Party will restore this nation to its [second amendment, low-tax] hertitage.

Every four years without fail, we are told that only a Republican can appoint a conservative Justice to the high bench so that liberalism can be stopped cold.

Without fail.

[Gun owners, low-tax advocates, etc.], wake up!

[aristeides]

Look on it as more triangulation. This week's decisions give homosexuals a lot less reason to support the Democrats. (And while their numbers may be small, they have given a lot of money to the Democrats in recent years.)

[aristeides]

David Frum's column, JUN. 27, 2003: SODOMY IN TEXAS , explains why the effect of Lawrence's overruling of Bowers is to render homosexuals a constitutionally protected group, under Romer v. Evans. Scary.

[chicagolady]

VERY interesting and thought provoking.for your reading pleasure or Displeasure!

[HigherMoralAuthority]

Supporting a third party outside of the Republican Party would only take badly-needed votes away from the Republican Party. We all saw how the Green Party managed to sap Al Gore's election efforts very effectively. What we don't need is a third party stealing votes and seats all over the country.

[yoe]

http://www.sodomylaws.org/history/history03.htm
Criminal Sodomy Statutes in Effect in 1791

”The proscription of sodomy in the English tradition began in 1533 when King Henry VIII adopted contemporary church doctrine into a system of laws at the time of the English withdrawal from the Catholic Church. Sodomy became both a sin and a crime, since ecclesiastical law recognizes no distinction between the concepts of "sin" and "crime." Sodomy included any form of non-procreative acts including masturbation, oral and anal sex.

”...stated by the Kansas Supreme Court in a 1925 sodomy case, sum up the historical attitude of the Anglo-American legal system toward non-procreative eroticism. The psychological discomfort of repressed or moralistic individuals from centuries before created a jurisprudence relegating the enjoyment of non-procreative physical intimacy to the status of criminality. Those forefathers’ attitudes control our legal system today. When the issue of the constitutionality of laws outlawing consensual sodomy was brought before the United States Supreme Court in 1986, nearly 200 years after the adoption of the Bill of Rights, Justice Byron White’s opinion upholding the laws referred to "the laws of the many States that still make such conduct illegal and have done so for a very long time."1 In addition, criminal penalties for sodomy "have ancient roots."2 Sodomy was a crime at common law.3

My Father, dead some 25 years, must be rolling over in his grave at the SCOTUS’s decision. However where that sainted man never lost his innocence, his children though taught better, lost theirs in their young adulthoods with Hollywood scandals; lewd stories in news papers and in books and livelier communication among nations and cultures. His grandchildren never had a chance to experience the softness of simplicity, trustfulness and naïveté of just being a good citizen knowing right from wrong. Puerility has been denied them through their schools, churches, all guilty of social engineering 'to make the world a better place'. Today parents are striving to take back some of the lost innocence and lost education by home schooling, protecting their young from an ever increasingly tasteless and immoral world and a government that panders for votes and money from special interests outside the moral teachings.

Be that as it is, the states that had the Sodomy Laws on their books and did nothing in the recent past to act upon that law; the law has become innocuous as should be removed and perhaps re-written to make passing on AIDS and other diseases brought about by same sex partners, a crime against society and punishable under new laws designed to bring at least a modicum of morality. We can thank Bill Clinton’s well-publicized sexual conduct and his pandering for votes for the ‘90s plunge into true Sodom & Gomorrah for our young people to emulate.

Place the blame on liberal thinking, teaching, government, political correctness and a general apathy to stop pornography, adulation of skimpy clothes in inappropriate places and a dozen other things that come to mind - BUT don't place the blame on the GOP - the SCOUSA merely did their job; if anyone doesn't like it, then you should have paid attention long before this.

[DannyTN]

All three opposed were Republican appointees. No Democrat opposed it.

There are 7 justices that were appointed by Republicans of those 4 voted for it which gives a 57% for by Republican appointees.

There are 2 justices (Ginsburg and Breyer) which voted for it which gives 100% of Democrat appointees for it.

Does anyone seriously believe that the Republicans would score worse in this area than the Democrats. The Democrats have openly courted the gay vote since at least the 70's. Al Gore as VP openly applauded Ellen Degenerous first openly primetime Gay show. There is just no comparison on the subject.

[billbears]

Every four years without fail, the Republican Party instructs Christians to elect Republicans to office so that we can thwart the left wing agenda of the Democratic Party.

Check

Every four years without fail, the Republican Establishment warns its rank and file never to vote for a third party candidate, lest we elect a Democrat by default by "giving him the election".

Check

Every four years without fail, Christians are told that third party candidates cannot win, and that a vote for a third party candidate is somehow a vote for the Democrat.

Check

Every four years without fail, Christians are bamboozled into believing that their beloved Republican Party will restore this nation to its Christian heritage.

Check

Every four years without fail, we are told that only a Republican can appoint a conservative Justice to the high bench so that liberalism can be stopped cold.

Check. And what do we get for it? A more liberal, larger government. And yet this past election the mantra 'we have to win back the Senate' was used. As if it mattered. And the Republican party will continue this move to the left to gain those extra votes until they realize that Christians will stand on their principles and vote for a third party. When is it going to be enough? When will we cast that all important vote for yet another power hungry, gun grabbing nanny CINO with a R beside their name that we begin the return to a Federal Constitutional Republic?

[Natural Law]

The problem is that this never was a federal or SCOTUS problem, it is a state legislative issue. The Constitution does not provide any power to regulate private behavior.

[Enough is ENOUGH]

I am astounded that so many people here have drunk the PC kool-aide and can't see the difference between homosexual sodomy and heterosexual sodomy. Duh!

[squidly]

Down here on the tail end of this I'd like to add that it does seem odd that some people would like Dubya to get blame for this, seeing as how he hasn't appointed a single SC judge. The lower court judges he's appointed are pretty darn conservative, hence the filibuster against them.

[Froggie]

Unless and Until we change the Senate to 60+ true conservative members of the Republic Party we can not realign this country with it's traditional values and direction.

[Kevin Curry]

Justice John Paul Stevens was nominated by President Gerald Ford - a Republican.

Ford was and is certainly not a conservative Republican. Ford is on the record as supporting the gay activist aganda.

William F. Buckley Jr. also calls himself a conservative but has only minor quibbles with the gay activist agenda (he's a pro-doper too, but that's another story).

Even Barry Goldwater in his dotage came to praise sodomy and all things gay.

In his autobiography Orrin Hatch proudly takes credit for getting Ginsburg and Souter appointed to the high court.

That's what happens when conservatives allow traditional virtues to spoil and rot from neglect and their respect for traditional institutions much as marriage to fade in favor of more trendy mores such as homosexuality.

Let's face it: liberals throw better parties. Once a conservative gets addicted to hobnobbing with the Hollyweird glitterati, he is usually willing to jettison pesky and uncool traditions and virtues just so his new buddies will allow him to continue to hang around.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

The RINOs have always had a tradition of giving it to themselves as well as to the conservatives and the rest of the American people!!