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Thanks for the help

Posted on 06/28/2003 8:49:56 PM PDT by Salamjohn

Two days ago, I posted the following on this forum:

Ok guys, I'm a 15 year old boy living in northern Virginia. I was selected along with about 250 other high school students from from across the nation to a summer school on the campus of Georgetwon University. The summer schools i by the Junior Statesmen Association of America, and we study American government and we practice speech by participating in real debates. Like issues of fetal rights, Arctic Wildlife Refuge, "Under God" in teh pledge of alleigence. There are a ton of liberals, i mean alot of liberals. At least 80% Anyways, i have been assigned to defend the the US-led coalition's war on Iraq was a success not a failure. As a Bush supporter I beleive that it was, but the other side has some good arguments against it (Like where are the Weapons of mass destruction, and why are Iraqi people discontent with the US presence). If any of you guys can help me by giving me good arguments to support my case, then please do. I am researching stuff myself, but anything you guys can do is great. Thank you, John Francis Marion Clifton, VA Bethlehem Baptist Christian School

For those of you that responed, thank you. This is what happened. I went up to speak, my time limit was 4 to 6 minutes. As a fast speaker when im in front of people, I covered it all in 3 1/2 minutes. For the other half minute I awkwardly told people that we won and are doing good over and over in as many different ways as possible, because I was unprepared to deal with extra time. When it struck 4 minutes, I sat down. Then my opponent came up and presented liberal arguments and other stuff, many of which were rather good points. Then a subsequent speaker for my side came up. What he said was to this affect: "I think that the US was successful in Iraq, but because of the main speaker's [referring to me] poor argument I cannot vote for him. He did not hit 4 minutes, so you must discard his argument and I urge you all to obstain from voting." Everyone was appauled, and fortunately, harassed him for doing that to an unexperienced speaker. He took questions with his extra time, and a friend of mine said "You may be right, but are you aware that you are an asshole?" Hahaha. Good. You tell him. Anyways, other than that, it went well. In my closing speech i timed it perfectly and hit 3 minutes. Thanks to all you who helped me out with information and encouragement.


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To: JulieRNR21
She you say? lol just kidding
21 posted on 06/28/2003 9:15:03 PM PDT by Salamjohn
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To: Salamjohn
Try Young Republicans, College Republicans or Young Americans for Freedom.

So who won the debate?
22 posted on 06/28/2003 9:15:11 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
War Not Success = 12
Success = 8
Obstainers = 4
23 posted on 06/28/2003 9:16:22 PM PDT by Salamjohn
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To: Salamjohn
I had a terrible time in college with speeches...I was lucky enough to have an outstanding professor...She told me when I was giving a speech to look out at the audience and imagine they were all naked ! It sounds funny but it really did help me relax...
24 posted on 06/28/2003 9:17:50 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Salamjohn
Hi John. I missed your first post. GREAT JOB! It is hard to get up in front of people. I'm proud of you.
25 posted on 06/28/2003 9:18:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Salamjohn
Nice work, young man. Thanks for posting the follow-up report.

I'll be looking for more of your posts here on FR.

26 posted on 06/28/2003 9:18:40 PM PDT by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Salamjohn
Congratulations.

Sounds like you did just fine.

Every speech you give will improve your confidence and experience, which will allow you to relax more, and allow your mind to run far enough ahead of your spoken words, so that you can make adjustments to your words, which words you emphasize, etc., on-the-fly as your speech progresses.

I remember my first speech at a military school. The night before, I developed a sore throat (finally convinced myself that is was just mental). I went ahead with the speech and was sure that it wasn't a very good speech. Surprisingly, I won the school's speech award. (Not bragging, just pointing out that you can't always be sure about a self-evaluation).

Keep up the good work.

Besides, you will always have the best basis for any argument when you are starting from the conservative versus the liberal position.
27 posted on 06/28/2003 9:18:46 PM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: OREALLY
Umm ok ill just imagine that the MIXED GROUP is all naked im sure that will help next time lol
28 posted on 06/28/2003 9:19:02 PM PDT by Salamjohn
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To: Salamjohn
those blasted obstainers!
29 posted on 06/28/2003 9:19:19 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
all because that one guy rained on my parade
On the tax cut vote there was
Pro cuts, 6
Anti cut, 9
obstainers, 10 sheehs
30 posted on 06/28/2003 9:20:47 PM PDT by Salamjohn
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To: Salamjohn
IMO, it sounds like you did a respectable job.

Public speaking isn’t so much knowledge, or intelligence – it’s familiarity and experience.

You can take a person with 10 public speaking appearances and put him up against at person with 100 public appearances and it’s usually no contest. Just take your lumps and move on. Ten years from now you’ll be a professional – nobody will touch you.

If you are really into public speaking, look up your local Toastmasters and go to work. (I didn’t, but my dad always gave speeches and said that was his best advice for people that wanted to do that sort of thing.) They tend to place importance on time management and thought organization… among other things.

Good Luck.

31 posted on 06/28/2003 9:25:46 PM PDT by thatsnotnice
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To: thatsnotnice
Thank you
32 posted on 06/28/2003 9:28:39 PM PDT by Salamjohn
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To: Salamjohn
Your funny...leave it to a guy to think of a 'mixed group' !
33 posted on 06/28/2003 9:33:01 PM PDT by OREALLY
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