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How many of you will stop downloading any music because of this. Has the RIAA won?
1 posted on 06/25/2003 6:15:07 PM PDT by jimmccleod
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Good luck suing the file-sharing companies that are hosted from Europe.
2 posted on 06/25/2003 6:18:50 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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I don't know. I guess the key is to not keep too many songs in your directory. I think any defendant should also cite relevant Constitutional passages.

I do not consider musical recordings to be "useful arts." It is clear that no one is using these files in business or to perpetrate a fraud that they are the original artists.

The Constitution clearly meant what we would consider to be patents or useful technologies to encourage innovation. It does not mean that an electronic recording is yours in perpetuity.
3 posted on 06/25/2003 6:19:33 PM PDT by Skywalk
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I never download music of any kind from the net, and I never buy CDs.

Still, RIAA wants a law that would allow them to cruise through my computer when I'm on-line to see what I might have.

Because of their attitude, RIAA is quickly alienating people who want nothing to do with them or their enemies.

4 posted on 06/25/2003 6:21:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Will we stop downloading from Kaaza Gold? I doubt it. Let them sue their customers out of existence.
5 posted on 06/25/2003 6:21:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Not by a long shot. They're not going after those that download, only those that offer stuff for download. And since they're only going after those that offer stuff for download who are in the United States, there's gonna be plenty of other sources around the world to download from for those who want to download music.

They should just offer the music for sale on the internet on a per-song and save themselves the distribution costs. I don't want to pay $18 for a cd on which I only like one song, and neither does anyone else, which is why file-swapping is so widespread.
6 posted on 06/25/2003 6:21:56 PM PDT by Henrietta
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GOOD!

I hope they make a Million, billion, kazillion, quantrillion9 dollars suing all these music thieves.

7 posted on 06/25/2003 6:22:07 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Hey you kids, get off my lawn!)
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I'm going to keep downloading songs. I still buy the albums of the non-mainstream bands that I like
8 posted on 06/25/2003 6:23:19 PM PDT by Michael2001 (Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever)
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I suppose all the Tom-Dick-Harry owners of porta studios who crank out MP3 audio crap for download could offer their own copyright waivers along with their crap. Sheez. It ain't even worth copyrighting, let alone downloading.
10 posted on 06/25/2003 6:24:49 PM PDT by Greg Packer (Howell is my buddy. Leave 'im alone.)
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I don't bother to download songs because I would rather buy the nice CD in its shiny package. I don't buy that many, anyway.

However, how would they ever proove that it was me who downloaded the songs? Any guest could have come over, used my computer to check their email, and downloaded some songs that I don't have legal CDs to. There is absolutely no way for them to prove that it was a particular person.
11 posted on 06/25/2003 6:28:35 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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screw 'em.
15 posted on 06/25/2003 6:34:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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RIAA and the Organized Crime family of Music labels should get a clue and start by lowering the price of CD's. $20 for a CD? I only buy used CD's now and the RIAA and Mafia want to start collecting money on those too!
17 posted on 06/25/2003 6:37:00 PM PDT by gaucho (People used to come to the US for prosperity and now we just export it to them.)
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File sharing? What is that?
18 posted on 06/25/2003 6:40:29 PM PDT by b4its2late (POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN ....Cops have nothing to go on.)
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"It doesn't take too many tickets to get everybody to obey the speed limit," Prestwood said

Oh yeah, that's right, cops write a few tickets and everybody obeys the speed limit, happens all the time, everyone's crawling on the interstate at 55 mph (/sarcasm).

19 posted on 06/25/2003 6:42:29 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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This is an open invitation to the RIAA: Go ahead. Sue me for downloading music. I will get a lawyer that will prove your case so blatently foolish that it will immediately be thrown out of court. Will you're at it, why don't you ban CD-RW's, DVD-Writers, and most importantly, my TIVO unit. You people are a joke. Why don't you just admit it and get it over with: The RIAA (yes, that means you, the RIAA) is a greedy money grubbing organization that is going downhill fast. Unfortunately, it's not going downhill over file trading. It's going downhill because CD's are so G'dam expensive. Even so, I still buy CD's of my favorite artists, and I buy a lot of them, and MP3's usually help me initiate these purchases. The steps you are taking now is a company's feverishly last resort to save itself. It won't work. It will just continue to make you look like the bad guys, and the money grubbing organization that you are. In fact, you remind me of the Democrats.
26 posted on 06/25/2003 6:56:47 PM PDT by rs79bm (Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence)
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I just download, don't share. I am fine according to this.
31 posted on 06/25/2003 7:04:48 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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The truth of the matter was I pretty much lost interest in the music on the radio (Rush Limbaugh fan), and havn't purchased a cd in quite some time


Then I discovered Kazzaa. I started downloading some music files, and I became interested in music again. I started purchasing cd's again, and playing them on my "musicmatch" jukebox having a good time.


Now they call us theives and don't want our business. Well let me tell you something RIAA;


JUST KAZZAA ALONE HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED OVER 2 MILLION TIMES. EVERY MUSIC FAN WHO HAS A COMPUTER HAS PROBABLY DONE THIS. NOW YOUR TELLING ME THAT YOUR GOING TO SUE EVERY OR SOME OR WHATEVER ONE OF US? I DON'T THINK SO. ANY KID OR ADULT MUSIC FAN WHO GETS DRAGGED INTO COURT OVER THIS B.S. IS GUARANTEED TO DO ONE THING.

BOYCOTT YOUR STINKIN' LABEL!!!



...and then the counter suits will start for wasing our time. count on it. You think your losing money now...just wait.
47 posted on 06/25/2003 7:22:06 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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Heck no I'm not going to stop downloading...In my Highschool almost everybody is a user on at least one song SHARING network. I'd like to see what happens when the RIAA pisses off their best customers. Great Marketing plan (sarcasm)
50 posted on 06/25/2003 7:23:40 PM PDT by MilitaryBuff (All we are saying...is let us share music)
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...it will begin Thursday to search Internet file-sharing networks to identify music fans who offer "substantial" collections of MP3 song files for downloading.

This is why I don't...share...squat.

If something happens to get left in my shared folder...it's a mistake.

56 posted on 06/25/2003 7:33:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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I wonder if the Napster-type software could hide the true size of an individual's collection, breaking it into a dozen (or more) separate pieces, so the RIAA would never know who the big sharers were...
66 posted on 06/25/2003 7:45:40 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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That background noise we are all hearing is the lawyers and the lawsuit industry chuckling, giggling, snorting and snickering as they imagine a whole passel of tasty little lawsuit tidbits and legal fees from this mess.

Thousands of little lawsuits? Wheeeee!!!

Of course, most of the P2P downloaders and uploaders are not worried. Heck, if they had the money to pay a lawyer they wouldn't need to download their music from the Internet.

The RIAA is not going to stop music downloaders because even if Kazaa were to vanish tomorrow, another network would pop up in less than a week.

They want to send out spybots and monitor everyone's machines? How long before some computer wizard comes up with a fix that stops them from doing just that.

The RIAA is trying to shovel back the tide with a pitchfork. The only winners here (as usual) will be the lawyers.
71 posted on 06/25/2003 7:51:56 PM PDT by Ronin
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