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Setting Ancient Nefertiti Bust on Bronze Nude Touches off a Tussle
AP Breaking ^ | Jun 17, 2003 | Donna Bryson Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/17/2003 11:25:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - They were together only a few hours. But that brief union of a celebrated, 3,000-year-old bust of the Egyptian queen Nefertiti with a modern bronze nude body touched off a furor.

Some Egyptians are calling the art project at Berlin's Egyptian Museum an insult to their culture and demanding the return of the ancient bust, charging it isn't safe in German hands.

The museum director, Dietrich Wildung, answers that his museum's most famous piece was never at risk and defends the videotaping of Nefertiti's head on a nude torso as a legitimate artistic experiment.

The tape is now part of an installation by two Hungarian artists at the Venice Biennale, one of the world's most prestigious contemporary art festivals.

An Egyptian archaeologist with whom Wildung has clashed in the past is leading the outcry in Egypt. Zahi Hawass, director of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, says the Nefertiti bust should be returned to Egypt for its protection.

Hawass, who has been criticized by Wildung and others for starring in TV documentaries that use Hollywood clips and computerized graphics, accuses Wildung of creating a "disgraceful display" and risking damage to Egypt's cultural heritage.

In a phone interview from Berlin, Wildung admitted he was baffled at first when the two sculptors came to him with the idea of videotaping the bust sitting on the shoulders of their nude statue. But he said he decided it would be in line with the museum's explorations of the influence of ancient art on modern artists.

Wildung said the 19-inch-high bust, with its elegantly arched brows and towering blue headdress, sat only briefly on the life-size body created by Hungarian artists Andras Galik and Balint Havas. The transfer on May 26 was done with care, he said.

Wildung said the painted limestone image of pharaoh Akhenaton's queen was up to "this dialogue with contemporary art."

In Venice, "Nefertiti's Body" stands headless, the bust's power symbolized by its absence. Zsolt Petranyi, the curator of the piece, said the goal was "to prove not just that art is universal, without any borders, but also that it is timeless."

Galik and Havas, whose previous works include a 3,240-square-foot test pattern on glass on the roof of a parking garage and giant photographs of plaster models of buildings, could not be reached for comment.

Petranyi feels the criticism in Egypt has less to do with art than ownership. "And this problem is not at all new, beginning from the 1920s, when the Egyptians began asking for the return of not just this object but many others," he said.

The Nefertiti bust has been in the Berlin museum's collection for nearly a century.

Hawass compares "Nefertiti's Body" to the Grateful Dead or Sting performing with his beloved pyramids as backdrops, concerts that Egyptian tourism officials allowed over his strident objections.

The work is "disgusting, it's something ugly," Hawass said. "The nudity also is disgusting."

In Egypt, where nude figure drawing is banned in college art departments, newspapers have been in an uproar. Farouk Hosni, Egypt's minister of culture and an abstract painter, said pairing the Nefertiti with a contemporary bronze was "mad and ill-considered."

Some Egyptian artists, however, saw nothing scandalous.

Huda Lutfi, an Islamic scholar and a respected painter, applauded the work for reaching "across cultures, across time."

Painter and filmmaker Khaled Hafez, who has been accused of belittling Egypt's heritage by juxtaposing pharaonic images like the pointy-eared god Anubis with pop icons like Batman, said the project succeeded because it provokes "thinking outside the box, trying to find alternatives."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Egypt; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 18thdynasty; akhenaten; amarna; andrasgalik; balinthavas; egypt; germany; godsgravesglyphs; hudalutfi; hungary; khaledhafez; nefertiti; somekindofbust; zahihawass; zahizowiehawass; zowiehawass; zsoltpetranyi
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1 posted on 06/17/2003 11:25:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Painter and filmmaker Khaled Hafez, who has been accused of belittling Egypt's heritage by juxtaposing pharaonic images like the pointy-eared god Anubis with pop icons like Batman, said the project succeeded because it provokes "thinking outside the box, trying to find alternatives."

I don't think that is allowed in the Muslim world!

2 posted on 06/17/2003 11:28:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: Kaslin
Zahi Hawass would have you believe that the pyramid builders used copper tools to hew the granite blocks that formed the pyramids. That's how credible he is.
3 posted on 06/17/2003 11:36:44 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 06/17/2003 11:40:38 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( "Aspire to Mediocracy"..........new motto for publik skools....)
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To: Kaslin
Some Egyptians are calling the art project at Berlin's Egyptian Museum an insult to their culture

I think they need to decide what their culture is. Are they idol-worshipping Egyptians who do not like their idols manipulated? Or are they Muslims (in which case the Nefertiti bust is pagan idolatry even in isolation)?

5 posted on 06/17/2003 11:57:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: etcetera
First, the Pyramids were made of sandstone, not granite.

Second, Are you under some tin-foil induced delusion that aliens or psychic powers bulit the pyramids? Or is your theroy a bit more credible?

6 posted on 06/17/2003 12:23:00 PM PDT by theKing
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To: Kaslin
From what I can tell, the Egyptians have gotten mad over nothing. They missed a perfectly good oppertunity to shut up.
7 posted on 06/17/2003 12:25:21 PM PDT by theKing
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To: Kaslin
I can only assume that these Egyptians have never seen the imagaes of Nefertiti as depicted in Ankhanaten's temples nor the other ancient Egyptian artwork showing women in either various states of undress or in gowns so thin that they leave little to the imagination. While I don't think this display is necessarily appropriate, ancient Egyptian art does contain its share of nudity.
8 posted on 06/17/2003 12:32:31 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Nefertiti
Ping!
9 posted on 06/17/2003 12:32:36 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Kaslin
The only embarrassment to Egyptian culture are modern day Egyptians.
10 posted on 06/17/2003 12:40:44 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: theKing
Back in the 80s, I saw an article quoting some would-be archaeologist as saying the pyramids were actually built of cast cement blocks. His proof? The grain of the plywood molds could be seen on the surfaces.
11 posted on 06/17/2003 12:40:52 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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"...the Pyramids were made of sandstone, not granite."

Sorry to tell you this, but my refences say "...limestone came from Tura...granite from Aswan...".

And I believe that they were made by men, not aliens. But using copper tools on granite doesn't work - even for aliens.

12 posted on 06/17/2003 1:26:09 PM PDT by etcetera
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To: SpaceBar
Agreed.
13 posted on 06/17/2003 1:47:24 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: etcetera; 19th LA Inf
Actually etcetera, you're right. The Pyramids were made from Granite, covered with Limestone, and topped with a block plated with some metal according to a few sites found with google. So if you were offended by me saying that it was the tin-foil talking, I apologize.

I've heard a long, long time ago, that the Egyptians hammered wooden posts into their quarries where they wanted to remove a block, then soaked the posts in water. The post would expand, breaking off the block. Maybe that's how they did it, but I don't know.

14 posted on 06/17/2003 3:15:05 PM PDT by theKing
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To: theKing
Apology accepted, sorry I went over. It's a mystery to me how they did it, but I have some difficulty believing the copper tool explanation. It just doesn't hold up from an engineering perspective.
15 posted on 06/17/2003 3:35:24 PM PDT by etcetera
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To: Constitution Day; Kaslin
Thank you CD.

Nefertiti@-->---

16 posted on 06/17/2003 4:14:23 PM PDT by Nefertiti (I use to be lost, but now have been found.....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/926411/posts)
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A projection of the film portraying the moment in which the 3000-year-old Egyptian bust of Nefertiti is fitted on a bronze sculpture by two Hungarian artists known collectively as 'Little Warsaw', is seen in the Hungarian pavillon at the vernissage of the 50th International Biennale in Venice, Italy, June 12, 2003.

17 posted on 06/17/2003 4:26:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Kaslin
I guess that we don't get to see a picture of Nefertitty. What a shame.
18 posted on 06/17/2003 4:30:22 PM PDT by FreePaul
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19 posted on 02/10/2006 9:37:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv ([singing] Kaboom, kaboom, ya da da da da da, ya da da da da da...)
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Note: this topic is from 6/17/2003. Thanks again Kaslin. Re-ping.
Zahi Hawass, director of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, says the Nefertiti bust should be returned to Egypt for its protection. Hawass, who has been criticized by Wildung and others for starring in TV documentaries that use Hollywood clips and computerized graphics, accuses Wildung of creating a "disgraceful display" and risking damage to Egypt's cultural heritage... The Nefertiti bust has been in the Berlin museum's collection for nearly a century... The work is "disgusting, it's something ugly," Hawass said. "The nudity also is disgusting." In Egypt, where nude figure drawing is banned in college art departments, newspapers have been in an uproar. Farouk Hosni, Egypt's minister of culture and an abstract painter, said pairing the Nefertiti with a contemporary bronze was "mad and ill-considered."

20 posted on 11/25/2017 2:51:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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