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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do!"

WALTHAM, MA -- A legal battle over two home-schooled children exploded into a seven-hour standoff yesterday, when they refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department of Social Services.

George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George, as police and DSS workers attempted to collect the children at 7:45 a.m. DSS demanded that the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

After a court order was issued by Framingham Juvenile Court around 1 p.m., the children were driven by their parents to a Waltham hotel.

Again, they refused to take the test.

"The court order said that the children must be here. It said nothing about taking the test," said George Bryant.

The second refusal came after an emotion-filled morning for the family, when DSS workers sternly demanded the Bryants comply with their orders.

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Four police officers were also at the scene and attempted to coax the Bryants to listen to the DSS worker.

"We are simply here to prevent a breach of the peace," said Waltham Youth Officer Detective James Auld. "We will will not physically remove the children."

Yesterday's events are the continuation of a six-year legal battle between the family and Waltham Public Schools and the state.

The Bryants contend that the city and state do not have the legal right to force their children to take standardized tests, even though DSS workers have threatened to take their children from them.

"There have been threats all along. Most families fall to that bullying by the state and the legal system," said George Bryant.

"But this has been a six-year battle between the Waltham Public Schools and our family over who is in control of the education of our children," Bryant continued. "In the end the law of this state will protect us."

The Bryant children have never attended public school.

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001. The children will remain under the legal custody of DSS until their 16th birthdays.

The parents have been ruled as unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham Public School's home schooling policy.

"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

George Bryant said he was arrested six years ago, after not attending a meeting that the city contends he was summoned to. The meeting was called by the Waltham School Department for his failure to send his children to school.

"We want these issues aired in the open, in public. The school system and DSS have fought to keep this behind closed doors," said Bryant.

Superintendent of Schools Susan Parrella said she was unaware of yesterday's incident and that, currently the school department approves of the education plan filed by DSS for the Bryant children.

"An acceptable home school plan is in place right now," said Parrella. "I was not aware of any testing occurring today."

The Bryant children freely admit that they have no intention of taking a test.

"We don't want to take the test. We have taken them before and I don't think they are a fair assessment of what we know," said Nyssa Bryant. "And no one from DSS has ever asked us what we think."

Kenneth Pontes, area director of DSS, denied that workers have never talked to the children privately, but admitted that this type of case isn't often seen by his office.

"This is an unusual case. Different school systems require different regulations for home-schooled children. Waltham requires testing," said Pontes.

Pontes said that a possibility exists that the children will be removed from their home, but that was a last course of action.

"No one wants these children to be put in foster homes. The best course of action would for (the Bryants) to instruct the children to take the test," said Etscovitz.

The Bryant family is due in Framingham District Court this morning, to go before a juvenile court judge. According to DSS, this session will determine what their next course of action will be and if the children will be removed from the Bryants' home.

"These are our children and they have and always will be willing participants in their education," said Kim Bryant.


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To: Lady Eileen
Just imagine what would happen in America if every FReeper read this book.

And every YR (Young Republican), and every young Libertarian and every young independent, and every conservative, and ...

281 posted on 06/13/2003 10:12:41 PM PDT by TaxRelief (True freedom is but a concept away...)
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To: Dan from Michigan
The way this country is going, that highway is going to end at the ocean, and then what will you do?
282 posted on 06/13/2003 10:14:53 PM PDT by TaxRelief (I give it 30 years, at the most.)
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To: TaxRelief
Huh? Just mindless links that go nowhere, unauthenticated based upon your beliefs in dogma? Think of your attitude towards me this way .... you are choosing to live a lie and can not authenticate someone's post .... you probably can't even authenticate the fact that at one time here in America, we stood for decency about our individual rights, liberties and freedoms ... not political parties destroying the same.
283 posted on 06/13/2003 10:17:10 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Dan from Michigan
You should consider yourself lucky.

Power trips - I can tell you many stories - one incredibly horrible, one that changed my life - about how CPS allowed its people to ruin the lives of people for the sake of convienience and power.
284 posted on 06/13/2003 10:29:13 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Where are my anti-anxiety pills?!)
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To: TaxRelief
"But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime." Frederic Bastiat - The Law

285 posted on 06/13/2003 10:45:44 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: TaxRelief
The way this country is going, that highway is going to end at the ocean, and then what will you do?

What does any animal do when it is cornered??

I don't have kids, but if I choose to homeschool, and have to deal with this BS, I do what I have to do.

286 posted on 06/13/2003 10:45:52 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (When someone tells me 'my way or the highway', I take the highway)
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To: Buckeroo
Just mindless links that go nowhere, unauthenticated based upon your beliefs in dogma?

Bartleby.com states the following:

Quotation: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

Attribution: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933. Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1959).

You will have to take the book out of the library, because I cannot find the text on line.

287 posted on 06/13/2003 10:52:31 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief
"Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." Frederic Bastiat -The Law

288 posted on 06/13/2003 10:54:06 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Dan from Michigan
Is there anywhere else on the planet that is as free as America? And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?
289 posted on 06/13/2003 10:55:30 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief
Is there anywhere else on the planet that is as free as America?

Not even close.

And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?

Nope. Like I said before, what does any animal do when it's cornered.

290 posted on 06/13/2003 10:58:21 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (When someone tells me 'my way or the highway', I take the highway)
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To: Lady Eileen
In the words of another great man--"inalienable rights". Are you quoting from memory?
291 posted on 06/13/2003 10:59:31 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Bastiat's words are like a freshly-laundered, dryer-warm, feather-filled duvet.)
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To: TaxRelief
And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?

No : (

292 posted on 06/13/2003 11:00:05 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Dan from Michigan; Lady Eileen
If there is no where else to go, then we must stay and fight. And our fight must begin with the children. We must disassociate as many children as possible from any government influence.
293 posted on 06/13/2003 11:03:35 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Bastiat's words are like a freshly-laundered, dryer-warm, feather-filled duvet.)
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To: TaxRelief
You can't find it, because the quote doesn't exist. I agree you may find similar quotes exalting the state; but it doesn't deny my challenge. Sorry you feel I am picking on you. I am impressed that you even attempt substantiating someone's bathroom wall quotes.
294 posted on 06/13/2003 11:05:47 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: TaxRelief
Are you quoting from memory?

I wish... click here.

295 posted on 06/13/2003 11:06:47 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Buckeroo
I absolutely did find it. Didn't you read? That quote is definitely in Shirer's book "Education in the Third Reich,” in chapter 8, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (published in 1959).

Are you looking at the book right now and you still don't see it?

Do you think it does not exist unless I bring the book to your house and point to it with my finger on the page in front of your eyes?
296 posted on 06/13/2003 11:13:53 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Buckeroo
the quote doesn't exist

What secret knowledge do you have disproving William Shirer's historical tome?

297 posted on 06/13/2003 11:19:15 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Smugness is only as good as the case you have formed.)
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To: TaxRelief
We also need to return to the historical Christian understanding of the three spheres of government: the family, the church and the state.

R.C. Sproul notes--Originally .... Each institution had its distinctive tasks to perform and neither was to usurp the other's sphere of authority.

298 posted on 06/13/2003 11:31:34 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: TaxRelief
If there is no where else to go, then we must stay and fight. And our fight must begin with the children. We must disassociate as many children as possible from any government influence.

I agree.

299 posted on 06/13/2003 11:35:54 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: CyberCowboy777
298 was for you also.
300 posted on 06/13/2003 11:42:14 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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