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The Hillary Divide by Andrew Sullivan
The Sunday Times | June 7, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/08/2003 8:49:55 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

The Hillary Divide

The Gulf in American Politics

It didn't even take a book. It merely took a tiny sliver of a book leak to send Washington into a tailspin of recriminations, accusations and spin. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's memoirs - already described as "memeroids" by one of her more tenacious enemies - aren't due to be released until tomorrow. But someone somewhere - presumably someone with an axe to grind - leaked some critical details to the Associated Press, and all hell broke loose. It tells you all that you really need to know about the former president's wife that even now, even after September 11, even after two and a half years of a Bush presidency, people still care about HRC. She polarizes America in ways not seen since Nixon. And her obvious intent to make it back to the White House in her own right has the potential to turn America's already fractious polity into something bordering on civil war.

This time, the fuse was the leaked spin that the former First Lady only found out about her husband's adultery with Monica Lewinsky the day before Clinton's civil deposition. Until then, we are asked to believe, she had no idea that her husband would ever have contemplated an illicit sexual liaison with a young intern. The very idea was a product of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" for which she blamed almost every failing of her husband's presidency. "For me, the Lewinsky imbroglio seemed like just another vicious scandal manufactured by political opponents," she writes. And then that dreadful morning, she found out the awful truth: Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?' I was furious and getting more so by the second. He just stood there saying over and over again, 'I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea.' In almost any other instance of a spouse being told of her husband's adultery, there would be nothing but sympathy for the wife, and certainly no impulse to question her veracity or sincerity. But not with HRC. Almost as soon as the leak came over the wires, there was a chorus of scepticism. "What Did She Know and When Did She Know It?" headlined the Washington Post's Lloyd Grove. He referred to an account already written by another Washington Post journalist, Peter Baker, "The Breach." In that book, Baker tells another story: that the news of Clinton's infidelity had been broken to HRC two days previously by Clinton's lawyer, David Kendall: "And so it fell to him at that critical moment to play emissary from husband to wife, to disclose the most awful secret of any marriage," Baker wrote on Page 24. "Something obviously had gone on between the president and Lewinsky, Kendall had told the first lady in his soft, understated way. The president was going to have to tell the grand jury about it. Only after Kendall laid the foundation did Clinton speak directly to his wife." Kendall now denies telling the first lady as such - but Baker merely says that Kendall had said "something obviously had gone on" in a "soft, understated way." The next day, August 14, the New York Times reported in a front-page headline that "President Weighs Admitting He Had Sexual Contacts." Did Hillary read the paper that day? Even if you buy the notion that HRC tried as hard as she could to disbelieve the near-universal consensus that her husband had fooled around with a twenty-one-year-old, it's hard to credit that on the morning of August 15, she was that shocked and dumb-founded. Either her powers of denial were even deeper than her husband's powers of deception, or she is simply lying in the book.

And then there's court-stenographer Sidney Blumenthal's account of the same period of time, in his just published, "The Clinton Wars." Blumenthal is a Hillary-crony, a man who treats the Clintons the way Vatican functionaries treat the Pope. But Blumenthal hardly paints a picture of a woman reeling from a personal betrayal. Telephoning Hillary from Italy immediately after she allegedly received the news, Blumenthal doesn't paint a picture of a wife recovering from sudden and unexpected news of inconceivable adultery. He paints a picture of a supremely controlled woman, making cool political calculations: I said that whatever 'issues' anyone had, and hers was worse than anyone's, we had to think about the politics. That was her reasoning as well. She said that the President would be 'embarrassed,' but that was for him to deal with. And that was all she would say about it. Even in a private conversation with a friend, she maintained her dignity. It was my intention to help her do that, and through the next two days we kept in constant contact. Her only remark, according to Blumenthal, was that the president would be embarrassed? And she wasn't? The weirdnesses continue after the president's deposition and immediate speech to the nation explaining his conduct. In her book, Senator Clinton says she was furious and could barely speak to her husband. According to the Associated Press, the 600-page tome "describes in bitter terms the months of chill between them afterward, never more painful than when they went to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts for a vacation following his testimony. 'Buddy, the dog, came along to keep Bill company,' she writes. 'He was the only member of our family who was still willing to.' While on the island, she felt 'nothing but profound sadness, disappointment and unresolved anger. I could barely speak to Bill, and when I did, it was a tirade.'"

Hmmm. This is what her closest confidant, Sidney Blumenthal, wrote about the night of the television speech: About ten minutes after [the speech] ended, my hotel phone rang: it was the president, asking what my reaction was. I told him it was all right. Hillary asked me what I thought. I told her the same... They handed the phone to James Carville and Mark Penn ... I could hear the president and Hillary bantering in the background ... They were still working as a team. So was she furious, enraged, disappointed, shocked? Or was she colluding with her husband to spin the politics of his reluctant confession? To tell the truth, I don't know anyone who believes the account Hillary has served up in her book. Her response is the kind of response you'd get from, say, Laura Bush, if her husband confessed to an adultery after what appears to be a long, happy and monogamous marriage. But, as Dick Morris wrote last week, Bill Clinton had been a serial adulterer for their entire marriage, as everybody with half a brain knows. In 1988, he called me and said that he and Hillary were considering divorce and he had to get away from her for a while. I offered him my house in Key West, Florida. Right before the 60 Minutes show during the 1992 campaign, he called for my advice and I suggested that he admit and apologize for the adultery with Flowers and he said "If I did that, I'd have to find a new place to live." In 1995, reviewing his testimony in the fraud trial of Susan McDougal, he asked me how he should handle his 'relationship' with her. I said: 'If you had sex with her, admit it. Don't perjure yourself. We can always undo the political damage, but we can't undo the legal damage.' He nodded. Hillary always knew that her husband couldn't keep his pants on. She knew that he had had serial affairs. They were so obvious that their joint strategy was - from 1992 on - to coyly concede that their marriage had not been perfect. Perhaps she somehow believed that once he became president, everything would change. But surely, given the past, it wasn't inconceivable that he would continue doing what he had always done. If, then, she was genuinely shocked by his admission in 1998, she was a fool. But better to portray herself as a fool - and as a maligned wife - than to acknowledge the truth: that her political ambitions always outweighed the integrity of her marriage; or that she was completely comfortable with an open marriage as long as it meant she could still ride her husband's coat-tails to political power. Her deal with Bill was a marital version of Gordon Brown's and Tony Blair's Islington pact: one partner would be the front, the other would be an integral part of the project.

With Blair and Brown, this makes a lot of sense. But what middle America cannot quite stomach is the thought that an actual, living, breathing human marriage could be premised on such cynical, cold and political terms. And that's the central and obvious reason for Hillary's current reprise of the dramas of 1998. She knows that if she runs for president, she will have to answer these critical questions about her role in the ethical and legal morasses of the Clinton presidency. Her strategy is to argue that she was a typical wife and he was an incurable philanderer; that she was the wronged party and somehow endured to fight another day on clearer, better terms. What she cannot do is run for president as the partner in an open marriage designed entirely for political ends. Americans simply cannot accept that kind of arrangement in their head of state. Unless she disproves that impression, she is finished.

The trouble, of course, is that the impression is largely true. Even the left-liberal New York Times couldn't disguise this fact in a story this week about the Clintons' still-evolving relationship: "For much of the last two years," The Times reported, "the Clintons have been acting as independent operators. They have a home in Chappaqua, New York, and a home in Washington. Mrs. Clinton spends every weekend in New York, where Mr. Clinton spends most of his time when not traveling. They are much more apt to be seen traveling individually, rather than as a couple. Sylvia Woods, owner of Sylvia's Restaurant, near Mr. Clinton's office in Harlem, said the former president rarely came to her restaurant, though Mrs. Clinton regularly turned up. 'I need to talk to them about that,' Ms. Woods said. 'They need to come in together sometime.' Similarly, in Chappaqua, solo appearances by the two Clintons appear to be the norm. Residents said they often saw Mr. Clinton walking around town with his dog, chatting with neighbors or dining in delis and restaurants. 'I see him quite a bit,' said Kirk Sprenger, who owns a wine shop in Chappaqua. 'He walks through downtown with his dog, stops in at Starbucks for coffee.' Asked if he ever saw the Clintons together, Mr. Sprenger quickly said: 'Never. Oh no, I have never seen them together.'" Of course there's nothing wrong as such with that kind of distant, open marriage. If that's the way the Clintons want to set up their relationship, it's their business. The problem is that America is in many ways a publicly conservative - or at least quietly hypocritical - culture. Americans - especially in the heartland between the two coasts - don't particularly want their president as an exemplar of a transparently post-modern marriage. For a female leader especially, let alone one attempting to become the first woman president of the United States, having a traditional family life is an essential component of her political viability. Hillary knows this; and yet she also knows that that isn't anywhere near a description of her unique deal with her husband/partner/colleague. So once again, she's forced into the kind of lie that undercuts her obvious talents as a political operator. Many Americans will simply concur with Camille Paglia who, contacted by Newsday to give her own predictions about the book and its reception, simply said, "Anyone who stays married to an infantile, drooling, serial groper deserves what she gets."

At the same time, you'd be a fool to discount Hillary's ambition or skill. If she were to jump into the current Democratic race for the White House she would be an instant favorite. Her post-White House career has been shrewd and determined. She ran a near flawless campaign for the U.S. Senate, doing far better in up-state New York than anyone predicted. Once she got to the Senate, she focussed on winning friends, raising prodigious amounts of money for her colleagues (thus increasing her clout over them), and moving to the political center by backing welfare reform, and supporting president Bush on the war against Saddam Hussein. She remains a huge favorite among those Democratic activists who raise money, knock on doors and vote in primaries. Meanwhile, she has kept her own man, Terry McAuliffe, at the head of the Democratic National Committee. It's widely believed that she would be quite happy to see George W. Bush win a second term so that she can run against an unknown successor in 2008. By then, she hopes, the Clinton Wars will be well behind her.

But they won't, of course. There's a solid 20 percent of the country who will do anything to prevent her from becoming president. Mention her name in some contexts and what you get is an irrational, near-hysterical tirade. Even now, rumors spread the instant she puts her head above the parapet. She didn't write her own book; she swears like a soldier at the Democratic Senatorial meetings; she holds grudges. Conservatives - especially in her own baby-boomer generation - froth at the mouth when discussing her. They despise her even more than Bill, who could be dismissed, in Bob Dole's words, as a "likable rogue." But whatever else Hillary is, she sure isn't likable. Frosty, arrogant, self-righteous, imperial, convinced of her own rectitude and of the evil that all Republicans represent, for many she incarnates her own generation's insufferable post-Watergate piety. If the deepest divide in American culture is still that between those who protested the Vietnam War and those who fought it, Hillary looms as the symbol of one side and one side only. She can never transcend this. From her early days as a junior prosecutor in Nixon's impeachment to her dismissal of women who "stay home and bake cookies" in the 1990s, she evokes opposition and, yes, hatred, like no-one else in American culture.

Some of this is clearly unfair. She is obviously a highly intelligent, focused, articulate politician. Her Faustian bargain with her philandering husband could be interpreted as a youthful mistake for which she has already paid dearly. At the same time, she clearly does believe not simply that her opponents are mistaken but that they are evil. Her instinctive response to her husband's betrayal and perjury - that it was entirely a fiction created by the right-wing - revealed how she truly sees the world. Her proximity to liberal bigots like Sidney Blumenthal suggests that her political goal is not to unify the country but to punish and humiliate half of it. Her paranoia in this respect should bar her from much higher political office, especially since her return to the White House would open wounds that have only recently begun to heal.

This cultural divide still exists, and may even be deepening. You saw it in the division between "blue" and "red" America - the liberal coasts and the conservative center - in the 2000 election. You see it in the impassioned debates about abortion - where the alienated pro-lifers have turned in a few extreme cases, to murder and terrorism. You see it even in the troubles of the New York Times, where a classic liberal baby-boomer, Howell Raines, so infuriated his colleagues and readers with pious liberal bromides that he was eventually forced to step down. You see it in the fights over gun control or gay rights. The division is not simply political - it's about something deeper, about the very identity of a country, which is still fiercely contested in America in ways not often seen elsewhere. Some are able to overcome this division. George W. Bush hasn't quite - he is still viscerally loathed in some pockets of "blue" America. But his conduct in the war on terror and his personal aversion to the politics of personal demonization have helped smoothe over some of the raw feelings of the Clinton era. But with Hillary, no such unifying could or would take place. She would be a replay of the rancor of the Nixon and Clinton eras. If she ran for office, she would divide an already divided country in ways that would tilt the United States toward poisonous political unrest.

That's why any sane person will hope she remains for ever a distinguished Senator for New York. And why those hopes will never deter her from pursuing her own ambitions at whatever cost to the country she aims one day to rule.

June 7, 2003, Sunday Times. copyright © 2003, 2003 Andrew Sullivan


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To: Travis McGee
Yes those two words are a very real possibility if Hillary resurects hersulf to run for the presidency. Let us say we had a close enough election that a key state once more went into the court system and once more went before teh US Supreme Court does anyone think Hellary would abide by the Courts decision. at that point her minions would start shooting if she did not get her way and if she did get her way her autocratic rule would make the other side start shooting soon.

As for me I have picked my side when the shooting starts when your in the middle you get fire from both directions.

61 posted on 06/08/2003 10:17:18 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Travis McGee
There's lots of room here in Oklahoma, too!
62 posted on 06/08/2003 10:19:56 AM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: COUNTrecount
"Anyone who stays married to an infantile, drooling, serial groper deserves what she gets."

Quote of the Day!
63 posted on 06/08/2003 10:22:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Squantos
that state is a sh*t bed of sedition and socialism these days cept for a few holdouts

That's me... Horatio at the Bridge. :)

64 posted on 06/08/2003 10:22:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (A bad day FReepin' beats a good day workin'.)
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To: COUNTrecount
There are Democrats who can win the Presidency. Kerry. Perhaps Edwards. Even they are long shots.

Hillary, otoh, carries far, far too much political baggage and ill will.

Nixon would never have been elected President without Wallace running as a third party candidate.

Hillary will never be elected, unless the Republican party is foolish enough to split its vote between, let's say, a mainstream conservative and a third party Alan Keyes or Gary Bauer or someone like that.

That's the only scenario where Hillary wins.
65 posted on 06/08/2003 10:24:36 AM PDT by shred
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To: blackdog
I'm tempted to poke out my eyes and puncture my eardrums to escape these people. I've sadly ruled that option out because then I would be a democrat.

ROTFLMAO!
66 posted on 06/08/2003 10:26:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Travis McGee; Miss Marple; Eaker; Squantos; TEXASPROUD
Before you folks leave for the Lone Star State, drop by Maine for some quickie Spanish lessons. While you're seceding to Tejas, Tejas will be seceding into old Mejico. So stick around for the finale, at least.

If that dummie Lazio, who ran against Hillary in NY had the Brains and the B***ls to to play hardball against Hillary with the facts, we would not have had to contend with this stupid issue. He soft-balled the b**ch worse than Babba Wawas. Worst campaign since Dole.

I trust the Republicans learned their lesson from Old Dole and the Big-Eyed Mushy Puppy Lazio. But with Karl Rove on the scene, there's always the chance we could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again.

67 posted on 06/08/2003 10:30:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: cricket
I agree with you, Cricket. This was no leak. This was masterful PR!

Every talk show has had a show this past week on what the book would say, then another show on what the excerpt 'really' meant, then another show on what she said to Barbara Walters, Then we are going to be subjected to the Interview, THEN all the talk shows will be on to discuss what she said to Barbara Walters!

The State of the Union message does not get this much coverage!
68 posted on 06/08/2003 10:32:15 AM PDT by maica (Don't believe everything you read in the papers- Jayson Blair)
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To: Grampa Dave
Of course there's nothing wrong as such with that kind of distant, open marriage.

Oh Bullsh*t! Sullivan even recognizes this in a following paragraph. The problem is that most of America does not believe those types of marraiges are healthy or desirable. In fact, most Americans consider that superficial and shallow. In fact, the Klinton's know this. How else would they appear on "60 Minutes", holding hands with Chelsea, or pose as a fake, loving couple dancing on the beach? (Remember that contrived photo op?)

69 posted on 06/08/2003 10:33:00 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
Remember where Sullivan is really coming from.
70 posted on 06/08/2003 10:36:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: mrsmith
Spot on.Sullivan needs some fresh air himself, or perhaps should become a drama critic.He can be as credulous as Eleanor Clift.
71 posted on 06/08/2003 10:38:31 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: cardinal4
Surely you mean MA, and not Kansas??

KA for Kalifornia :)

72 posted on 06/08/2003 10:38:49 AM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: harpseal
HArp, by my count, Algore took at least 5, possibly 6 states by out-and-out-fraud. Let's work on that one before the bi*ch runs, shall we?

I see scant evidence that the Republicans are willing to make a public issue of it. Although, Ashcroft's boys did good work in Maryland and Missouri in the last round, there is still no plan to clean up the California voter rolls, or Michigan's (where the Mayor(!) of Detroit admits there are 150,000 phony regis in his filthy town), or Pennsylvania's, or New York's. Algore's "Popular Vote Victory" is due to fraud ... no one is saying that.

I have nothing against Civil War, but wouldn't it be cheaper to just clean up the voter rolls?

73 posted on 06/08/2003 10:39:38 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Travis McGee
Yea, but ya gotta promise not to complain about the heat, or how we can't drive on ice or snow, and ya can't go on and on about how great it was up north where ya came from.
74 posted on 06/08/2003 10:39:58 AM PDT by Ace the Biker
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To: Grampa Dave
Dennis Miller was just on Fox with Tony Snow.

1. "If that marriage was any more about convenience, they would have set up a Slim Jim rack and a Slurpee Machine."

2. If Hillary is that gullible, as president she would have to see the Taliban bungee-jumping off the St. Louis Arch before she recognized they were a threat."

75 posted on 06/08/2003 10:41:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Mulder
Whew! Everyone from KS I know cant stand the woman. Midwestern values and Clinton socialism do not mix!
76 posted on 06/08/2003 10:46:58 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
LMAO.......Stay on em till it thunders Slim !

Stay Safe !

77 posted on 06/08/2003 10:47:02 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I have nothing against Civil War, but wouldn't it be cheaper to just clean up the voter rolls?

I do have something against war having been in one in Southeast Asia they are rather unpleasent for the participants and everyone gets to participate. As to the relative economy of cleaning up the voter rolls instead I do agree with you but that is a spending cut the Democrats will not assent to and the Republicans seem to lack the testosterone to push through

78 posted on 06/08/2003 10:47:24 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: KellyAdmirer
I say Rudy beats her in 2006
79 posted on 06/08/2003 10:48:39 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: COUNTrecount
her obvious intent to make it back to the White House in her own right has the potential to turn America's already fractious polity into something bordering on civil war.

Sullivan said it, I didn't. But I was thinking it first.

If the deepest divide in American culture is still that between those who protested the Vietnam War and those who fought it, Hillary looms as the symbol of one side and one side only. She can never transcend this.

Very well put!

...she evokes opposition and, yes, hatred, like no-one else in American culture.

Hellary being "elected" would spell the end of America as we know it. It is no wonder such loathing is obvious. Some of us don't want to face the Hobbesian the choice between slavery or "civil war" in this wonderful country. But, we will if forced.

80 posted on 06/08/2003 10:51:51 AM PDT by Gritty
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