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To: henderson field
I see no evidence in the article that he is a non-citizen H1B, so that means he's an American just like you and me, and he is unemployed. And since the number of IT positions in the US is actually falling because of offshoring, he is in a field where at age 30, he will likely never hold a job in his field again.

I've said this on every thread on this topic I've posted on: this issue is the Republicans achilles heel, Bush will skate by in 2004, but alot of freepers will be crying in 2008 when Hillary is elected president, asking "who would vote for her?". these folks whose jobs are being gutted by these visa and offshoring practices, add them to the list of people pulling the lever for her.
5 posted on 06/02/2003 5:58:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
I agree with your second point - it won't be a big issue in 2004 because the long term impact will not be well known by then. It WILL be a major issue by 2008 and beyond, with the potential to make or break an election.
10 posted on 06/02/2003 6:10:22 PM PDT by Fish_Keeper
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To: oceanview
"the number of IT positions in the US is actually falling because of offshoring"

A recent recession, a capital spending bust and net efficiencies in IT shops also have employment levels down.

69 posted on 06/02/2003 8:43:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Tax & Spend Democrats HARM the economy; Buchananite Protectionists would DESTROY it.)
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To: oceanview
"I've said this on every thread on this topic I've posted on: this issue is the Republicans achilles heel, Bush will skate by in 2004, but alot of freepers will be crying in 2008 when Hillary is elected president, asking "who would vote for her?". these folks whose jobs are being gutted by these visa and offshoring practices, add them to the list of people pulling the lever for her. "

I agree that this issue needs to be addressed by Republicans, but you can see the same attitude with the Democrats as seen in the other thread below. If a Democrat takes on this issue, he could win the election. One of the guys at work who was hired at the same time I was, said he used to be a Republican until now. He wasn't out of work as long as I was and he is a lot younger. (They are also getting rid of older workers, so I had another strike against me.)

I going to show him the article below to prove that Democrats aren't doing anything either.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/921165/posts?page=52

Outsourcing, visa curbs not in US interest: Congressman
Economic Times of India ^ | May 29, 2003
Posted on 06/01/2003 4:11 AM PDT by sarcasm
NEW DELHI: While the bills introduced to limit outsourcing and L-1 visas in the US Congress and state legislatures should be treated with a degree of seriousness, there is no need to lose sleep over it.
It is not in the interest of the US to take the protectionist path, feels US Congressman Jay Inslee. The congressman was addressing a CII forum on “Globalisation & Business Process Outsourcing: Win Win for India and the US” in Delhi today. etc....
73 posted on 06/02/2003 9:09:08 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: oceanview
Did you see these links?

http://www.betterimmigration.com

http://www.h1b.info
74 posted on 06/02/2003 9:20:34 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: oceanview
I really would like to see something done about this issue.
I'm glad you pointed out that the guy in the article is probably an American citizen.
75 posted on 06/02/2003 9:23:29 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: oceanview
when Hillary is elected president, asking "who would vote for her?". these folks whose jobs are being gutted by these visa and offshoring practices, add them to the list of people pulling the lever for her.

Im not making the connection of Tech people losing their jobs(I havent yet) and then voting for Hillary. What is she gonna do for us?

I also believe that this country will cease to exist as #1 after she is elected. We will become socialist pacifists like France because her govt WILL succeed in controlling us through even more heavy taxation.

109 posted on 06/04/2003 9:47:08 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: oceanview
in 2008 when Hillary is elected president... add them to the list of people pulling the lever for her.

I unhappily agree with you.

The GOP better get on board, fast. Eliminate the Income Tax Amendment and go back to the original tax system, shrink the government, stop unfettered illegal immigration, cut back on environmental fascism and impossible regulations, and start standing up for American jobs and businesses rather than globalism.

Otherwise, the Democrats will promise it (but have no intention of delivering it) and murder the GOP at the ballot box. Hitlery will be President, and we'll all either be permanently screwed or forced back onto our last resort, the genuine purpose of the Second Amendment. Either way will be ugly beyond description!

141 posted on 06/05/2003 10:30:37 AM PDT by Gritty
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