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IRAQ: Weapons of Mass Disappearance - (Where are the WMD? Manipulation to go to War? )
time ^ | Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003 | MICHAEL DUFFY

Posted on 06/01/2003 9:01:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weapons of Mass Disappearance
The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong — or manipulated? 
By MICHAEL DUFFY


LYNSEY ADDARIO/CORBIS FOR TIME
Soldiers of the 25th Infantry rummage through a bombed-out house in Mosel looking for weapons
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Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003
How do take your country to war when it doesn't really want to go? You could subcontract with another nation, fight on the sly and hope no one notices. But if you need a lot of troops to prevail and you would like to remind everyone in the neighborhood who's boss anyway, then what you need most is a good reason — something to stir up the folks back home.

As the U.S. prepared to go to war in Iraq last winter, the most compelling reason advanced by George W. Bush to justify a new kind of pre-emptive war was that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear, chemical and biological arms — weapons of mass destruction (wmd). "There's no doubt in my mind but that they currently have chemical and biological weapons," said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in January. "We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons," said Vice President Dick Cheney in March. That Iraq might have WMD was never the only reason the Bush Administration wanted to topple Saddam. But it was the big reason, the casus belli, the public rationale peddled over and over to persuade a skeptical nation, suspicious allies and a hostile United Nations to get behind the controversial invasion. And while that sales pitch fell flat overseas, it worked better than expected at home: by late March, 77% of the public felt that invading U.S. troops would find WMD.

But eight weeks after the war's end, most of that confident intelligence has yet to pan out, and a growing number of experts think it never will. Current and former U.S. officials have begun to question whether the weapons will ever be found in anything like the quantities the U.S. suggested before the war — if found at all — and whether the U.S. gamed the intelligence to justify the invasion. For now, WMD seems to stand for weapons of mass disappearance. Smarting from the accusations that they had cooked the books, top U.S. officials fanned out late last week to say the hunt would go on and the weapons would eventually be found. CIA officials told TIME that they would produce a round of fresh evidence for increasingly wary lawmakers as early as next week. After dispatching dozens of G.I. patrols to some 300 suspected WMD sites in Iraq over the past two months, only to come up empty-handed, the Pentagon announced last week that it will shift from hunting for banned weapons to hunting for documents and people who might be able to say where banned weapons are — or were. But it is clear that the U.S. is running out of good leads. "We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad," Lieut. General James T. Conway, commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said last week. "But they're simply not there."

Wherever they are, the missing weapons are beginning to cause trouble elsewhere. Overseas, British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under fire from critics for overstating the case for war. The accusations came at an awkward moment for Bush, as he began a seven-day diplomatic trip to smooth over relations in Europe and seek peace in the Middle East. Moreover, mistrust about the Iraqi intelligence was growing just as the Administration began to make a similar case against Iran. In order to defend the credibility of his agency, CIA Director George Tenet took the unusual step of issuing a statement last Friday dismissing suggestions that the CIA politicized its intelligence. "Our role is to call it like we see it, to tell policymakers what we know, what we don't know, what we think and what we base it on. That's the code we live by." Asked to translate, an intelligence official explained that if there was a breakdown on the Bush team, it wasn't at the agency. "There's one issue in terms of collecting and analyzing intelligence," he said. "Another issue is what policymakers do with that information. That's their prerogative."



One of the oldest secrets of the secret world is that intelligence work involves as much art as science. While it is difficult, dangerous and expensive to snoop on our enemies with satellite cameras, hidden bugs and old-fashioned dead drops, knowing what all that information really means is the true skill of intelligence work. The information is often so disparate and scattershot that it amounts to little without interpretation.

And interpretation has long been the speciality of the hard-liners who fill so many key foreign-policy posts in the Bush Administration. Unlike his father, who ran the CIA briefly in the mid-'70s and prided himself on revitalizing an embattled spy corps, George W. Bush dotted his foreign-policy team with people who have waged a private war with the CIA for years, men who are disdainful of the way the agency gathers secrets — and what it makes of them. Working mainly out of the Pentagon, the hard-liners have long believed that America's spy agency was a complacent captive of the two parties' internationalist wings, too wary and risk averse, too reliant on gadgets and too slow to see enemies poised to strike.

Two Bush aides in particular, Rumsfeld and his Pentagon deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, have a long record of questioning the assumptions, methods and conclusions of the cia. Wolfowitz was a member of the famous B Team, created in the mid-'70s by the cia, then headed by Bush's father, to double-check the work of the cia's line analysts about the military strength of the Soviet Union. Filled with many hard-liners who now work in the younger Bush's Administration, the B Team was spoiling back then for bigger defense budgets and a more aggressive foreign policy. It found many of the cia's conclusions about the Soviet Union softheaded and naive. Its final report helped launch the Reagan-era defense buildup of the 1980s. Rumsfeld also chaired a bipartisan commission in 1998 set up by Congress to assess the pace of rogue states' missile efforts, which concluded that the cia wouldn't be able to gather intelligence quickly enough to meet the unseen threats posed by Iran, Iraq and North Korea. That dire prediction — reinforced by a North Korean missile launch a month later — turbocharged the nation's push to build a $100 billion missile shield, now under construction.

The hard-liners' staunch beliefs were powerfully bolstered after 9/11; they quickly concluded that the CIA failed to anticipate the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. And they were not reassured by the CIA's performance after 9/11 either. By last fall, Rumsfeld had grown so impatient with the CIA's equivocal explanations of the Iraq problem that he set up his own mini-CIA at the Pentagon called the Office of Special Plans. It was hatched and designed, as a former U.S. official puts it, to get "the intelligence he wanted."

Several current and former military officers who saw all the relevant data through this spring charge that the Pentagon took the raw data from the CIA and consistently overinterpreted the threat posed by Iraq's stockpiles. "There was a predisposition in this Administration to assume the worst about Saddam," a senior military officer told Time. This official, recently retired, was deeply involved in planning the war with Iraq but left the service after concluding that the U.S. was going to war based on bum intelligence. "They were inclined to see and interpret evidence a particular way to support a very deeply held conviction," the officer says. "I just think they felt there needed to be some sort of rallying point for the American people. I think they said it sincerely, but I also think that at the end of the day, we'll find out their interpretations of the intelligence were wrong." Another official, an Army intelligence officer, singled out Rumsfeld for massaging the facts. "Rumsfeld was deeply, almost pathologically distorting the intelligence," says the officer. Rumsfeld told a radio audience last week that the "war was not waged under any false pretense." And an aide flat-out rejects the idea that intelligence was hyped to support the invasion. "We'd disagree very strongly with that," said Victoria Clarke, the chief Pentagon spokeswoman.

Over the past two weeks, TIME has interviewed several dozen current and former intelligence officials and experts at the Pentagon and cia and on Capitol Hill to try to understand how the public version of the intelligence got so far ahead of the evidence. The reporting suggests that from the start the process was more deductive than empirical. According to these officials, three factors were at work: 





TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; warlist; wmd
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To: wotan
Whew. Jumping to what conclusions? As for Blix not finding them if we can't - that's a given. I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
41 posted on 06/01/2003 10:04:25 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
If Saddam didn't have anything to hide, why didn't he invite the inspector back in with FULL access?

We know what we have been told. We have no idea that we have been told the entire truth, a part of the truth, or outright lies. (If you have "nothing to hide" would you invite the police into your home for a warrantless search? After all, you have nothing to hide and refusing that search should be conosidered evidence of guilt? We don't know the actual circumstances of the alleged refusals)

We have satellite photos of previous use and storage and manufacturing.

Then where are they? I haven't seen any evidence presented yet as to the fact that these so called storage and manufacturing facilities did, in fact, exist or that they were used for WMD's. (or that WMD's had been used by Saddam since GWI) What we seem to have is two trailers with fermenters that could have been used for biological weapons production if there were several other uints involved in the process as well (which, to date, haven't been found or any evidence of their existance found) or which could have been used, by themselves, for any number of other non weapon purposes including the Iraqi claim they were hydrogen producing units for military weather and observation balloons.

All I want is the truth. The proof of that so called truth Bush promoted to gain support for the war: That Iraq had huge quantities of militarily deployabe WMD'd and that they were an imminent danger to us. That we had to get him before he got us. The proof of this will be producing those weapons for the world's open viewing. I will not consider a bunch of stuff that needs to be interpreted as evidence that Saddam might or could have possibly have had the ability to make them as evidence that I wasn't lied to. Geez, a possible garage bathtub operation is hardly a justifiable reason to attack and overthrow a sovereign nation's government. If it was, we could start bombing NYC or LA, or even the homes of numerous freepers, today .

42 posted on 06/01/2003 10:04:43 AM PDT by templar
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To: Peach
In case you didn't notice, he did invite the UN back in with full access to prove it.. The charge, however, was that Iraq - being the size of California, or whatever - was too large for them to find anything unless they were directly led to them. Since they were never led to anything, the assumption was that something was being hidden. In other words, the burden of proof was on the Iraqis to prove that they had no WMDs, whether that was ever provable is another question altogether..
43 posted on 06/01/2003 10:04:56 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Peach
That's right. You don't have a clue.
44 posted on 06/01/2003 10:05:06 AM PDT by wotan
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To: AntiGuv
Iraq DID NOT offer full access. Well, they offered offered it one day and rescined in the very next day. They constantly manipulated the UN and obstructed the inspectors. Not the work of someone with nothing to hide.
45 posted on 06/01/2003 10:08:12 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Incidentally, one final point before I leave this issue alone for now. I am not arguing that Iraq has nothing (much less that they never had anything) in terms of WMDs. What I am arguing is that the preponderance of the evidence now strongly suggests that anything they may have was absurdly trivial compared to what they were alleged to have. I believe I have accurately described the prewar public characterization of Iraq's WMD capability; do you now still believe that was an accurate reflection of reality?
46 posted on 06/01/2003 10:09:29 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Buckeroo
Don't think for a moment that the USA is the pinnacle of honor; America is far from truthful about anything it does.

So you believe that Bush is just reiterating what our prior Esteemed President had to say regading SADDAM?

PROOF of Iraq's WMD (Flashback Clinton speech 1998)

47 posted on 06/01/2003 10:09:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Err....are you using that rapist Bill Clinton to bolster you case that WMD exist in Iraq? If so, not many people regard that liar as credible. Just wondering.
48 posted on 06/01/2003 10:12:09 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: AntiGuv
Well said.
49 posted on 06/01/2003 10:12:45 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Peach
Iraq DID NOT offer full access. Well, they offered offered it one day and rescined in the very next day. They constantly manipulated the UN and obstructed the inspectors. Not the work of someone with nothing to hide.

Absolutely right!

50 posted on 06/01/2003 10:13:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: AntiGuv
Did you see any photos of the labs of WMD? They have been on television quite a few times. The labs didn't look trivial. The tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens who died at the hands of WMD didn't look trivial.

I've yet to read one book about the matter that suggested it wasn't a huge WMD program - one of the largest in the world. Are all the authors lying - since 1980 and to what end?

Do you honestly believe Saddam wouldn't sell WMD to AQ? They want them, he had them. Sold? Who knows - let's hope not.

51 posted on 06/01/2003 10:14:26 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Mike4Freedom
we (US citizens) are not all responsible for this debacle

I accept full responsibility for the liberation of Iraq.

52 posted on 06/01/2003 10:14:46 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
GWBush has done nothing for America but hide behind the mask of 9/11 while trumping up over a trillion dollars in additional national debt for nothing.

OBL must be happy about GWBush's hand wringing taking our freedoms and liberties away. BTW, where is Osama? Why can't GWBush find him?
53 posted on 06/01/2003 10:15:07 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
Buckeroo, you are a lost case. Go back to DU where you belong.
54 posted on 06/01/2003 10:15:56 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh Saddam had WMD alright. He still does, which is why he survived again -- just as he did in 1991. The WMD weren't the real reason we had to go to war -- they were just the reason we had to lie about why we went to war.

Remember...

WMD mean never having to say you're sorry.

55 posted on 06/01/2003 10:16:22 AM PDT by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: AntiGuv
Did all this just vanish into the desert? Somewhere? Somehow?

Of Course! that's it! A big sandstorm, a GREAT BIG sandstorm, came along and burried all of them just in time to prevent Saddam from using them against us. Someday, in about 2193 or so maybe, another great big sandstorm will blow the sand eslewhere and uncover them. Then we'll have the proof that were were right.

I'm beginning to suspect that maybe I've been had.

56 posted on 06/01/2003 10:17:22 AM PDT by templar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I want to correct my earlier post. We do have a coloring book scheme and methods of duct tape to guard our borders. Such joy for over a trillion dollars.
57 posted on 06/01/2003 10:18:24 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Peach
Whats a DU? Doug from Upland?
58 posted on 06/01/2003 10:19:13 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
Why can't GWBush find him?

He did. He's (OBL) an ex-CIA employee, you know. Maybe not as ex as we'd like to think.

59 posted on 06/01/2003 10:19:22 AM PDT by templar
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I don't think Ernest at the Beach was trying to imply the word of Bill Clinton means anything in particular. What I think he was trying to say was that EVEN Clinton, who wasn't particularly strong on foreign policy, knew that Saddam had WMD.

Clinton frequently talked about Iraq's WMD and that is why he got the Iraqi Liberation Act passed by Congress in 1998, so we could rid the world of the biggest WMD program in the planet. He got it passed but then didn't do anything about it which was typical Clinton.

60 posted on 06/01/2003 10:21:27 AM PDT by Peach
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