Laci's things in tug of war

The Modesto Bee ^ | May 31, 2003 | Garth Stapely and John Cote'

[itsahoot]

Duck! Duck! You are either Jesus Christ or you are scum (by your definition).

Actually that is pretty much a Biblcal definition.

[Canadian Outrage]

I've been doing estate work for 17 years OP!! Yes, in a lot of cases it does bring out the worst in families. However, that said, I EXCLUDE this situation. The Rocha's have tried to do things on the up and up for months. They are not dealing with honest people. Their actions on Friday last, were done out of desperation and I don't think your going to find any Court or LE that will find otherwise.

[Toespi]

You just wait until it is time to have a funeral service for the remains of Connor and Laci. Betcha that the Petersons get into the act and make demands how things will be handled. It will be a bloodbath! Now we know how Scaught came to be a murderer.

[Howlin]

"We thought we had it worked out with Geragos that Sharon could come in Laci's home next Tuesday". "He (Geragos)called...on Thursday and said he's not going to allow anyone in the house....I called Sharon..she said,"I've got to do something".

You're right. After Sharon was on Greta's show, the District Attorney called her that very night and told her she could go in the next Tuesday; Geragos is the one who said no; and he said that when they went in, he was going with them (to watch them suffere, no doubt) and that he intended to VIDEOTAPE them the entire time they were in the house.

During this same period of time is when Geragos leaked the autopsy report; when Al Clark called Sharon and told her he wasn't going to let them go in, that's when she decided to go ahead and go in.

Don't forget that Al Clark said that the Petersons, contrary to what Jackie was saying, had stopped talking to the Rochas, and Sharon was reduced to having to email Jackie. This had been going on for months, and it had been being negotiated for over a month after the Rochas hired their attorneys; Al Clark himself said that his letters to Geragos went unanswered.

And I got the distinct impression that when the Petersons got that list of 22 items that the Rochas wanted, they took TWO lamps and 3 tiny Christmas presents (out of all that stuff) over to Geragos' office and told them to go over there and pick them up. They were ONLY delivered to Al Clark's office AFTER Sharon went on TV and after the DA told her she could go in.

[Canadian Outrage]

Are you saying that a "gift" to someone should be scooped back by the giver upon the death of the recipient?? A gift is a gift is a gift!!

[daylate-dollarshort]

Spincach you really don't get it, do you.

This means nothing. First it was updated on the 29th a day after the Greta program and it verifies that a deal had been reached with Rocha and her attorneys.

Where is your source that Geragos had secretly limited what Rocha to three items?.

Suggest you try searching Rochas attorneys statement of Thursday morning May 29th. You will find that on Thursday morning he announced that he had receive an angry call from Geragos that the the agreement was off. He further stated to the press that he (Rochas attorney) "thought they had an agreement".

[Howlin]

When Sharon Rocha went on Greta's show there was NO date set for her to go into that house; the DA called her or her attorney that very night and told her she could go in Tuesday, June 3rd. When Geragos' found out about that, he called Clark's office and said, "Nobody's going in until I say."

BTW, the other attorney for the Rochas' is on Fox right this minute; he said there was NEVER a deal.......EVER.

[Howlin]

Mark Geragos NEVER called and said they could go in; after Greta's show, the district attorney himself called them and told them they could go in on Tuesday, June 3rd.

When Geragos heard that, he called their attorney and said they couldn't go in. That's when Sharon went in.

And they did, IN FACT, take two lamps and 3 presents over to Geragos' office; that is ALL they said she could have. They said she had to come to Geragos' office to pick them up. They had had the list for over a month.

[Howlin]

They was NEVER an agreement between Gergaos and the Rochas; never.

The person who told Sharon she could go in the house was the DA.

[Canadian Outrage]

That is what I understood the Rocha's attorney to say when he phoned into LKL on Friday night!!

[Howlin]

That is almost word for word what he said; and he said it again the next day, the day of the "raid."

And he said that the DA called them AFTER the Greta show; he did NOT say Mark Geragos EVER called them saying they could go in.

[BunnySlippers]

If they are so rare then why are you able to come up with a long list of teenagers who participated in Satanic killings? Why? Because there are no standards applied ... Rense (an abomination to turn to as a srouce) , nor any of the others sources appears to check whether the killings are teenagers who say that are killing in the name of satan or whether any of these people are members of a true satanic group or coven.

Just a quick glane through the ones I could readily pull up were the teenage type who said they murdered for Satan.

[daylate-dollarshort]

It was a gift to Laci from Scott. Upon Laci's death it returned to Scott's ownership.

Are you trying to say it was a gift to Laci's Family????????

Sheeese....

[Howlin]

Suggest you try searching Rochas attorneys statement of Thursday morning May 29th. You will find that on Thursday morning he announced that he had receive an angry call from Geragos that the the agreement was off. He further stated to the press that he (Rochas attorney) "thought they had an agreement".

That's your claim; you post the statement.

[Canadian Outrage]

I know, it's abundantly clear, that all attempts by the Rocha's to retrieve their deceased daughter's personal things were met by nothing but headbutts. The Defense has NO legs to stand on and I think even Geragos would be afraid to go after the Rochas's. It's an argument that is NOT going to fly and will in fact backfire. That rediculous little twit that Geragos sent over the Covena house was a good example of what the Rocha's have had to deal with.

[RGSpincich]

First it was updated on the 29th a day after the Greta program and it verifies that a deal had been reached with Rocha and her attorneys.

Yeah I know, if it had been last updated the day before...you would have been right. But it wasn't and you're not.

Where is your source that Geragos had secretly limited what Rocha to three items?

It's no secret.

I showed you the statement. You need to come across with a little proof of what you contend. Source that an agreement (as misleading as it originally was) was made between the Rochas and the defense prior to the show.

While your at it, tell us again how the no response faxes proves that they are in negotiations. You never did explain that one.

[oceanperch]

Then legally should not the Rochas have gone through the legal system to get these items?

I saw footage of them taking rattaan chairs. That is that important? Sorry I do not understand.

I can understand wanting her diplomas and very personal items but they carted off it looked like what they could.

In my opinion they looted the Peterson home. No matter how uncoopertive the Petersons were it does not give Rochas' the right to load up seven rigs with household items.

I am dissapointed that MPD did not put and end to it. The court should seal the house off to all involved and go through probate like the rest of America would be required to.

If I allowed my emotions to get in the way and took back things from someone I would be in a jail cell.

I really do feel for the Rochas loss but crossing the line is not acceptable civil behaviour.

[Canadian Outrage]

Good Gawd!! *groan* there's no point!!

[Sacajaweau]

This jewelry issue is the most interesting little item. First of all, Scott and Laci weren't married very long and doing the combine or alter or whatever to Laci's wedding ring and the grandmothers is a little early in their life together. What's missing is: Laci MUST have discussed this with her mother or best friend. It is one of those things you "tell" to someone else. It's not a "secret" thing. It's a feeling thing that involves others.

In the end, Laci died without her wedding ring(s) on...

Now all we need is the "time" when the rings went to the jeweler and and to know why Scott didn't pick them up in the months to follow. I think the jeweler may play an important part in this case.

[Canadian Outrage]

Are you saying that Peterson's have rights and the Rocha's have none? Laci is still on title as a joint owner. There has been no probate and no death certificate. The chair was a rocking chair that Laci has bought to rock the baby when she brought him home. Frankly, this situation is not the norm. The Peterson's have done as they pleased. They have shown not ONE bit of DECENCY in this situation. The Rochas's ASKED many times for 22 things that were Laci's. IMO they shouldn't have had to ask twice!! When it comes to the FINAL disposition of the entire property, yes, that will be a Court proceeding. A bloody Power of Attorney does NOT give the Peterson's ownership rights. Besides, NONE of us know whether Laci had a Will in which she stipulated certain items to given as bequests to certain memebers of her family or his for that matter. I think we should all STOP this stupid conversation because NONE of us know the nitty gritty details. However, it's clear to me that Snott Peterson is a very greedy person and after viewing the actions of his mother and father, I can see why.