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Just a quick glane through the ones I could readily pull up were the teenage type who said they murdered for Satan.

Let's see. There were murders committed; The murderers claimed they were committed in the name and/or for Satan; The murderers certainly believe in and have some sort of allegience to Satan.

I kinda believe that they can be called Satanists.

What is your point? Teenagers cannot be Satanists??? Maybe their claims were somehow just poor jokes??? I wonder if the people they killed in the name of-- or for Satan would agree with you?

I suggest you research the Modesto Bee's reporting of the Satanic murders which occurred about 6 miles north of Modesto. It wasn't one or two, it wasn't even a group of four as the Satanic murder in San Louis Obispo was. It was a named group with many members. Two were charged with the actual killing and several more were charged with conspiracy to murder.

As I posted before, I recognize the quality of the Rense site. I didn't accept Rense as a source, I went directly to the publications and verified the published information for myself.

"If they are so rare then why are you able to come up with a long list of teenagers who participated in Satanic killings? Why? Because there are no standards applied ..."

First I didn't say they were rare. I said Dr. Lee said that he has seen them and characterized them as rare. I don't have any idea how common they are and neither do you. I do know that in a relatively short time, I was able to verify reports of a couple of dozen Satanic killings in the US alone, and so far even more outside of this country. Based upon what I found, I would have to say Brazil is probably the leader in Satanic killings.

What standards do you suggest are applied? If the murderer states that the reason he butchered someone was for Satan or in the name of Satan, just who the hell are we to say nope, doesn't meet the standard? That he dressed up Hollywood horror movie style? Maybe it's only a Satanic killing if if a pipe organ is playing a funeral dirge in the background?

What's wrong with the standard that the murderer him or her self place on the act---"I DID IT FOR SATAN!" "I DID IT IN THE NAME OF SATAN!!"

You seem to indicate that you believe that all of these reports only involve teenagers. That is untrue. I have found descriptions of Satanic killings committed by 40 year olds, 50 year olds even one case where the perpetrator was in his 70's. Most are committed by younger people BECAUSE THEY GET CAUGHT and taken out of circulation.

Where is it written that a Satanic killing has to be done by a group? If so, how big does the group have to be, in your opinion? Maybe the group has to be able to fill the Crystal Cathedral!?

An individual cannot be a Satanist??