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1 posted on 05/26/2003 7:22:02 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: aristeides
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2 posted on 05/26/2003 7:30:44 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I have always maintained that SARS is the like a human form of FIPV. A feline infected with FIPV never gets over it. An infected cat can serve as a source of infection to those non-infected for a long time. SARS is paralleling the experience found by veterinarians treating cats infected with FIPV. SARS is a nightmare for human medicine and it is, like I said from day one, going to take draconian measures to contain it or we are in for a long dangerous and painful ride.
9 posted on 05/26/2003 8:39:25 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Dog Gone
"There continues to be absolutely no evidence of transmission of SARS in the general community."

But, they cannot identify the index case. So...

12 posted on 05/26/2003 8:51:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: Dog Gone
Canadian SARS outbreak mystifies experts

Amazing hoe the Hillary!Care doesn't seem to work so well after all...

(I've been suprised at the American doctors who will just say out loud
that the Canadian hospitals just were sloppy at their infectious disease
containment procedures. Usually getting one doctor to criticize another
takes a stick of dynamite to get their jaws open.)
13 posted on 05/26/2003 8:52:20 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Dog Gone
I have a theory for them:

1. Someone from an Asian country (China, Taiwan et al) boards plane in their native land

2. Plane lands roughly 13 hours later in Toronto

3. Said person starts coughing all over the place while walking unhindered through Canadian customs.


WOW! That was hard.

17 posted on 05/26/2003 8:58:07 AM PDT by IvanT
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To: Dog Gone
There is no mystery. The Kanadian "health-care" system is corrupt and inefficient, like all government agencies in communist states. We should close the border now so these traitorous socialists don't spread their pestilence here.
21 posted on 05/26/2003 9:14:49 AM PDT by eBelasco
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To: Dog Gone
This canadian health care outfit sure are good at making excuses and covering for each other. How do they ever find the source/cause of the outbreak if no one has done anything wrong?
26 posted on 05/26/2003 9:30:41 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Dog Gone
Experimental 'smart-bomb' targets SARS

May 25 2003 at 08:42PM
By Paul Elias

After years of disappointment, an elegantly simple medical technique that targets bad cells while leaving healthy ones alone could be making a comeback in the high-profile fights against cancer and the SARS virus.

The technique, known as "antisense," aims to kill the genetic messenger carrying diseases. But despite all its promise over the last two decades, the field has brought just one obscure drug to market - treating an eye ailment in AIDS patients - and left numerous failures and jaded researchers in its wake.

Now comes antisense's first legitimate shot at success. Cancer patients are taking an experimental drug based on the method, Genasense, in three pivotal trials.

'All I need to know is what gene I have to screw up' The results are expected in the next few months. Scientists, analysts and Genta, the company that makes the drug, are optimistic at least one trial will lead to Food and Drug Administration approval of Genasense.

"The one thing this field has needed is one gigantic drug out the door," said Genta's chief executive, Raymond Warrell. "What the field desperately needs is economic success." New Jersey-based Genta has spent 15 years and $350-million developing Genasense, which targets several types of cancer, including adult leukemia, and has been tested on 900 patients.

Hope for the technique is also rising in Portland, Oregon, where AVI Biopharma is also promoting its use in an experimental treatment for SARS. AVI says its drug Neugene, which targets West Nile virus, has been tweaked to take on SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, which has infected thousands of people around the world.

AVI has been struggling for 23 years to make even one approved drug. Few outside the field had heard of the company until the SARS outbreak prompted a global search for solutions.

AVI's lagging stock price has doubled over the last two months and it recently got a $15-million cash infusion from bullish investors.

"Antisense is really beginning to reach its potential," AVI's chief, Denis Burger, told a Congressional subcommittee exploring ways to combat SARS.

Antisense drugs jam vital genetic signals by tackling targeted RNA, which carries DNA's instructions to the body. Antisense scientists create mirror images of the RNA messenger that is spreading illness. When injected in the body, the mirror image bonds with the RNA and prevents it from delivering its message to protein-building machinery.

"It's like cutting the wires from central command to the troops," said Patrick Iversen, AVI's top scientist. "All I need to know is what gene I have to screw up."

In theory, the bullseye technology is nimble and adaptable. It took AVI a matter of days to rejigger its antisense work on a coronavirus in mice and West Nile virus in penguins to attack SARS.

But some longtime experts are skeptical of AVI's chances of success against SARS. Dr Cy Stein of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, widely hailed as an antisense pioneer, said he needs to see much more data from AVI. Further, he points out that his field is littered with failures.

"We still don't understand a lot," Stein said. "It's extraordinarily complex."

The latest high-profile antisense drug flop occurred in March, when a large human experiment conducted by Isis Pharmaceuticals and Eli Lilly failed to prolong the life of lung cancer patients.

It turns out the dummy genetic material often does more than just snip communication between bad genes and their deadly proteins. Many antisense drug candidates have been found to affect other genes and proteins not implicated in disease. Still others have proven ineffective in snipping the wires.

Nonetheless, Stein said he is still "chasing the dream" of antisense, especially as a cancer treatment. He said Genta's antisense drug, Genasense, is the most advanced and promising candidate on the horizon. - Sapa-AP

27 posted on 05/26/2003 9:39:55 AM PDT by blam
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To: Dog Gone
No Mystery.

You have a nation with socialized medicine.

There is little economic incentive to do well when the government controls an enterprise.

Go to the DMV and see it first hand.

A nation with socialized medicine is infecting nations with socialized medicine.
33 posted on 05/26/2003 10:52:02 AM PDT by Kay Soze (France helped Osama Bin Laden kill 3,000 US citizens in New York on Sept 11,2001.)
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To: Dog Gone
SARS raises new questions, comparable to our early experience with HIV in the early 80's. In the absence of answers to the questions, we tend to conjure up imaginary scenarios and theories to explain what we are seeing. It is obvious that this virus is resilient, elusive, and tenacious.

Those who assign fault to socialized medicine in Canada are providing themselves temporary reassurance. Given the right group of carriers, this disease could overwhelm this country in a matter of weeks. A single prostitute in a truck stop, a sailor on leave in Seattle, or a homeless person in New York, could shift the infection from the traveling class to the general population.

There are so many unanswered questions about the infectious period of the disease, its incubation time, and the route of transmission, that it is ridiculous to make any judgment about whether it can be contained or not.

I am also concerned with the political/economic implications of this disease. The consequences of diagnosis of the disease are so grave that I fear corporate medicine and governmental agencies are going to be at least 30 days behind the disease, waiting for "someone else" to be first.

I said once before that millions could die from SARS in the US. I still believe it and pray that I am wrong. I have a family to worry about just like all the rest of you.


50 posted on 05/26/2003 8:27:08 PM PDT by Bluewave
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To: Dog Gone
SARS Mortality Rates [reflects treatment]
for 'PROBABLE' cases only
Based on World Health Organization daily tables                 (Revised:  May 26 pm)
Area Recoveries to date Deaths to date Recent** Death Rate Active Cases still in Danger Projected Future Deaths Projected Cumulative Mortality
China 2829 317 10.2% 2170 222 10.1%
Taiwan 112 72 76.4% 401 262 57.1%
Hong Kong 1276 267 13.8% 183 25 16.9%
elsewhere
[30 countries]
448 70 11.9% 58 7 13.4%
**  Recent deaths are based on findings from the Imperial College of London......
that deaths take 12 days longer on average than recoveries on average.....
= (12-day recent deaths) / (12-day recent deaths + prior 12-day recoveries)

52 posted on 05/27/2003 12:35:05 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Dog Gone
bump
65 posted on 05/27/2003 1:22:23 PM PDT by GOPJ
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