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Protest raises questions about gender bias - staff walks out on video showing abuse of men
Cecil Whig (Cecil County, MD) ^ | 05/15/2003 | Carl Hamilton

Posted on 05/16/2003 10:01:45 AM PDT by dirtboy

Protest raises questions about gender bias - Domestic violence staff walks out on video showing abuse of men

State and county officials suspect gender bias after the coordinator of the Domestic Violence Rape Crisis Center (DVRCC) and four staff members walked out of a meeting Monday before a video presentation about women who abuse men.

Karen Dunne, who oversees this county's women's shelter, read a prepared statement objecting to the showing of the videotape moments before approximately 20 members of the Family Violence Coordinating Council of Cecil County viewed it.

(Comprised of representatives from law enforcement, the judicial system, county government and other agencies, the council meets once every two months to discuss domestic violence issues to better serve the community.)

"(The DVRCC) does not use or support the use of melodramatic materials ... no matter what victim group is emphasized. The use of skewered, sensationalist materials, often based on misleading statistics, myths, and non-scientific research, is non-productive to our mission and provides a disservice to all victims of violence," according to one passage in the statement.

After reading the letter, Dunne and her colleagues left the meeting before the council and guests viewed the videotaped segment of "20/20," a news magazine program aired on ABC television.

The segment included interviews with male victims of domestic violence and with women who assaulted their husbands or boyfriends. Some parts graphically described the attacks.

In the wake of the DVRCC protest, several officials who attended the meeting are wondering what, if any, ramifications will come from it.

"My major concern is that judges in both the circuit court and district court are legally and ethically obligated to deal with all persons on a gender neutral basis,'' said Cecil County Circuit Court Administrative Judge Dexter M. Thompson Jr.

He continued, "This puts us into a bind because we have a county agency that -- at least on the surface -- is indicating that we shouldn't even be discussing this type of issue at the Family Violence Council meetings."

According to Thompson, state law precludes judges from even associating with people or agencies suspected of gender bias.

State Sen. Nancy Jacobs (R) of the 34th District, drew the same conclusion after witnessing the walkout. (Jacobs attended the meeting as a guest because as a legislator she has introduced several bills to combat domestic violence.)

"I think it shows a gender bias. It almost showed a closed mind,'' Jacobs remarked. "At the least, them walking out showed insensitivity. It wasn't professional."

Chief Darrell Hamilton of the North East Police Department commented, "We were all at that meeting for the benefit of all abuse victims, not just a select group. One group can't be prosecuted more aggressively than another -- that's not justice."

And Richard Achuff, chief investigator with the Cecil County State's Attorney's Office, commented, "Quite frankly, it sent the message that they have horse blinders on and can't see anything peripherally."

But Dunne and her associates maintained Wednesday that the DVRCC isn't gender biased.

They reported that the DVRCC has participated fully with the council on the numerous occasions it has addressed the issue of domestic violence against males.

The Whig met with Nicholas J. Ricciuti, director of the Cecil County Department of Social Services, and Margaret Diem, coordinator of Human Services, in addition to Dunne.

Dunne and her associates acknowledged that women do assault men in relationships, but the problem isn't big enough to justify the amount of time and money spent on it.

"Given the small number of cases, an inordinate amount of time has been spent on this issue. We've all seen that video before. We believe the issue has been adequately addressed,'' Diem said.

According to Ricciuti, about 300 women are housed at this county's women's shelter annually, and all of them are victims of domestic violence.

Meanwhile, 14 men in this county sought services last year from the domestic violence program, he said. Counseling and shelter are among the services a man may receive, he added.

"The number of men receiving services from the DSS (Department of Social Services) because of domestic violence is less than 20," said Ricciuti, noting that his department has never received a gender bias complaint concerning its handling of male domestic abuse victims.

He continued, "On a scale of one to 10, this is not a high priority. The numbers dictate everything. It all comes down to time management and budget."

There isn't a shelter exclusively for male victims of domestic violence in Cecil County, for example, because it wouldn't be financially responsible to create one, Dunne reported.

"Proponents for (male victims) want to see equal services, but that just can't happen when 85 to 90 percent (of the victims), and maybe even higher, are women," Dunne said. "We provide comparable services."

Not only are there fewer male victims of domestic violence than female victims, but men often require fewer services anyway, according to Dunne.

Women usually are the primary caregivers to their children and, therefore, the urgency to find shelter is greater for them, Dunne explained.

"Women need more services than men. It's not that we discriminate against men," Dunne said.

According to Ricciuti, other types of domestic violence victims now demand more attention.

And that directive comes from the Maryland Department of Human Resources, which selected Cecil County Social Services to develop a three-county pilot program to address the latest trend.

"The real issue now is how to we reach out to the elderly victims of domestic violence, and victims who are disabled and victims who have a limited proficiency in English," Ricciuti said. "They are the under-served population. I would say domestic violence against the elderly is the biggest problem."

Considered a model agency by state officials, this county's social services department is designing a program to find those types of victims in Cecil County, Prince George's County and St. Mary's County and then help them, Ricciuti said.

Federal and state officials believe the number of domestic violence victims in those groups is high. Cases go unreported for a variety of reasons, including language barriers and cultural differences.

So, in addition to demonstrating their disdain for the videotape presented as a learning tool, Dunne and her colleagues departed early Monday to make another point.

"We've been addressing this issue (male domestic violence victims) over and over,'' Dunne noted. "We want to move the county in a direction that aligns us with state and national projects designed to reach out to these under-serviced groups."

She continued, "Our time is valuable and our work is undermined when the priorities of the (the council) are not properly aligned with our center, the state coalitions and networks, and when we do not focus on all under-served victim groups equally."

Addressing the sudden departure by the DVRCC group, Thompson commented:

"The whole point of these meetings is to discuss domestic violence issues openly so we can deal with them more effectively. If they didn't like the video, they could have stayed and vocalized their displeasure. I was shocked because it was highly inappropriate."

Jacobs agreed.

By challenging statistics presented in the video, Dunne and her colleagues exhibited an attitude reminiscent of one prevalent decades ago, when social workers started addressing the domestic abuse of women in the United States, according to Jacobs.

Male domestic abuse victims today face a similar plight female domestic abuse victims encountered several years ago, Jacobs reported.

"People were out there saying there was a problem, but, back then, we didn't have the statistics like we do today,'' Jacobs said. "So to me, it was hypocritical for (the DVRCC) to dispute the statistics (in the video) and then walk out."

She added, "It wasn't a wise move. This just cements the stereotype that women in these groups are man-haters."

Dunne and her colleagues, however, viewed their early exit as a last resort after voicing their concerns at past meetings -- to no avail.

"The (council) membership has tolerated the domination of the topic of male victimization for over a year, despite the fact that DVRCC and other partners have clearly demonstrated that male victims do indeed receive comparable services in this county as mandated by COMAR law,'' Dunne wrote.

To that end, Dunne recently presented a one-hour report to the human services committee of the council on mandated and non-mandated services that the DVRCC provides "for all victims of violence, including males," she said.

"Minutes from that meeting found that the report on these services was more than satisfactory. In addition, the DVRCC has met and, or, exceeded all state and federal program audit requirements for providing mandated services to victims of violence in Cecil County," she added.

Viewed as the start of the last-straw incident, Dunne openly objected to the videotaped segment of "20/20" after first seeing it during a sub-committee meeting, she said.

Then the executive committee was supposed to review the tape, accompanied by her comments, before presenting it to the council, she added.

But the tape bypassed the executive committee, and it was presented to the council Monday, according to Dunne, who wrote her statement after learning that the video would be played, despite her official objections and the lack of further review.

"I'm not into dramatics but I felt I had to do something," Dunne said, adding that she told council leaders beforehand that she and her colleagues would object and leave.

Her written statement concluded, "Please excuse us from the rest of this meeting, as we cannot support the use of histrionic materials. Thank You."

Ricciuti -- their boss -- supports Dunne and her colleagues.

"Walking out of the room is not only the right thing to do sometimes, sometimes it's the only right thing to do," Ricciuti said.


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To: Motherbear
--If you are worried about ending up in the back of a cop car, then you are clueless about the REAL terror experienced by a woman who believes her husband will kill her. I've seen that terror upclose. IT's chilling, was over ten years ago, and I still think about her.--

I think it's just suuuper that you still think of her. But what does that got to do with my post. We were talking about men having more options when they are abused than women do when they are. I just wanted an example.

BTW, yes, I have an axe to grind. I was accused by my ex of doing all sorts of things. She was terrified of me, moved valuables out of state, yada, yada. Her friends looked at me with disdain - and a little fear. Unfortunately for her, there were no 911 calls so it wasn't an issue in court. Tnat was several years ago. Oh, btw, her friends have ALL dropped out of her life and I have, at the very least, an amicable relationship with every single one of them. One of them even admitted to my new wife that she had come to realize that it was all lies.

Oh, and I got custody of my 15 year old daughter late last year.

Message: Don't believe everything you hear, no matter HOW compelling. With matters this important my motto is, no evidence, no story. I eventually heard the particulars of some of the things she had been saying about me and they literally made me laugh out loud.

61 posted on 05/16/2003 12:38:09 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Zevonismymuse
--I then asked him if he had ever considered killing me. He looked deep into my eyes and answered,"Yep." We laughed our selves to tears.--

Honesty is so important in a relationship. 8-}
62 posted on 05/16/2003 12:39:44 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Motherbear
Men still kill kids in greater numbers than women

You are correct; statistically men kill children more frequently than do women. Statistically, women hit children more frequently than do men.

Being slapped, kicked and punched is certainly not as bad as being killed, but it is a much more common occurrence. Killing is not a common occurrence, but men do most killing of men, women and children.

Awfully confusing statistics, I know. My point is that when we are talking about domestic violence, the most prevalent type is a mother hitting children.

63 posted on 05/16/2003 12:39:52 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse
"I then asked him if he had ever considered killing me. He looked deep into my eyes and answered,"Yep." We laughed our selves to tears."

Diplomats needing to deal with recalcitrant countries could learn a lot by studying your marriage...lol;)


64 posted on 05/16/2003 12:40:52 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: bigfootbob
Ah, thanks. I did have the thought that it might be a wooden handle, but I had to ask. You never know when such knowledge might become useful.
65 posted on 05/16/2003 12:44:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Under the Radar
...usually begins with abuse on the part of the woman, and end with it on the part of the man.

And in these situations there is only one truly innocent victim; the children.

I agree with what you ae saying. And I also think it is important to note that these people don't meet each other because of bad luck. There is usually some sick need being met on both parts when they first begin a relationship.

66 posted on 05/16/2003 12:44:25 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse
My mother was extremely physically abusive when angered, but she was also very loving and supportive.

Although probably not the situation in your particular case, the abuse/love cycle is very common in abusers. In some cases, its part of the MO, in other cases, its because the abuser feels guilt. In either situation, everyone else walks on egg shells not knowing whether mommy dearest is going to give you a hug and say "I love you" or beat you with a coat hanger, burn you with a cigarette, lock you in the fruit cellar, stuff your head in the toilet, and/or scream and yell for hours straight, while calling you names and making other derogatory statements in an effort to humiliate and strip you of whatever self-esteem you might have left.

BTW, like you, I have never, ever raised a hand to my kids.

67 posted on 05/16/2003 12:46:03 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: mdmathis6
Diplomats needing to deal with recalcitrant countries could learn a lot by studying your marriage...

You have no idea. It has had some rough spots but we are both extremely loyal. We can fight with each other, but nobody else better do or say anything against either of us.

68 posted on 05/16/2003 12:50:41 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: dirtboy
My wife is an Adult Protection Worker in Colorado. She sees adult abuse often, and that abuse is to men as well, not just by men. Women can be downright abusive and dangerous.

It seems liberals HATE men in general.
69 posted on 05/16/2003 12:53:47 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the 2nd is for hunting, is the 1st only for writing about hunting?)
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To: dirtboy
Translation: the domestic relations violence crowd hates men. If men are beaten, they deserve it.
70 posted on 05/16/2003 12:55:02 PM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: Motherbear
The stats on male rape are buried, mostly because of the stereotypical way that society views males ("guys always want it!" "What are you, some kind of wuss -- do it!" etc). Most male rapes are by homosexual men, but there are cases of women raping men. Guys don't refer to it as rape, though. They explain it away by saying they were persuaded, convinced, manipulated, etc. All of this is not to disagree with your central thesis -- most rapes are commited by men against women -- but to add info to the discussion.
71 posted on 05/16/2003 12:55:07 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Proud Christo-het Supremacist!)
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To: Labyrinthos
everyone else walks on egg shells not knowing whether mommy dearest is going to give you a hug and say "I love you" or beat you with a coat hanger

I watched that movie with my mother and when it was over I turned to my mom and said,"What did Joan Crawford do that was so bad?" We busted out laughing.

I have seen the cycle you describe because I worked for ten years with court ordered offenders. I was also briefly in a physically abusive relationship in my teens.

In the case of my mother's violence, she recognized it and owned up to it. I really think being a young over-burdened parent in an era where physical abuse was tolerted created the enviorment that allowed my mother to vent her anger in this manner.

I also think this played out in my own psychological abuse of my husband early in our marriage. I threwing screaming fits and broke dishes. I knew I did not want to behave in this manner so we went to marriage counseling.

I don't know how the therapy worked except to say when we went in for our weekly appointments I did not want my husband to tell on me, so I stopped screaming at him.

72 posted on 05/16/2003 12:59:33 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: =Intervention=
but there are cases of women raping men

Maybe if the man is unconscious. Generally speaking, it is hard to rape the willing.

73 posted on 05/16/2003 1:02:12 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse
Generally speaking, it is hard to rape the willing.

Having an erection != willing sexual partner, just as vaginal moisture != willing sexual partner.

74 posted on 05/16/2003 1:06:20 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Zevonismymuse
I'll bet the "making up" is just as sweetly passionate...;)
75 posted on 05/16/2003 1:16:06 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Zevonismymuse
But this is contra-factual. Men don't always want it.
76 posted on 05/16/2003 1:17:30 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Proud Christo-het Supremacist!)
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To: dirtboy
"Proponents for (male victims) want to see equal services, but that just can't happen when 85 to 90 percent (of the victims), and maybe even higher, are women," Dunne said. "We provide comparable services."

vs.

A 1999 study in Canada shows that women are just as violent to their spouses and almost three times more likely to initiate violence in a relationship. Even though the data was from a 1987 survey, the answers from the women were never published until 1999. Instead, just the men’s answers were published and they were used by feminist groups as evidence of the epidemic of violence against women, according to the National Post.

77 posted on 05/16/2003 1:18:18 PM PDT by Balto_Boy
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To: Chemist_Geek
Having an erection != willing sexual partner, just as vaginal moisture != willing sexual partner.

There are ways to create vaginal moisture without the woman being "willing" but it might be difficult to achieve and sustain an erection if the man is unwilling.

I am not certain, however. Perhaps a man can be completely adverse to having sex but still have an erection. This is beyond my field of expertise.

Calling Bob Dole!

78 posted on 05/16/2003 1:20:18 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse
Maybe if the man is unconscious. Generally speaking, it is hard to rape the willing.

I may not be willing at the beginning, but I will be by the end. It would take real sub-human ugliness to turn that tide.

I believe that in many states, some form of penetration of the victim is part of the definition of rape. Therefore, women lack the equipment.

Radical egalitarianism generally reduces to abstract silliness.

79 posted on 05/16/2003 1:20:43 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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