Agency spokeswoman Tamara Klingler said the training would teach leaders how to counsel "the young boy who might be questioning his sexual identity, who might think he's gay."BSA leaders already know how to counsel a young boy who's questioning his sexual identity. They'll tell him to talk to his parents and his religious leader. The problem there is that they may well counsel him to fight off any homosexual tendencies. And, admittedly, the young man may well feel that he can't face up to the condemnation that they'll give him. It is true that sexually conflicted kids tend to committ suicide more than other kids not so conflicted.
Herrmann specificially criticized the timing of the announcement. "Thirty days notice is inexcuseable. We're about to go to the summer programs, which are essential to us and the most costly to run," he said.
The United Way isn't too concerned about this, I'm sure.
1 posted on
05/15/2003 12:45:09 PM PDT by
RonF
To: RonF
Why the heck don't the
parents of the Boy Scouts cough up more money for their organization? Taking money from the United Way is just stupid. The Boy Scouts are a private organization. Parents who put their kids in it can kick in the money for
their kids!(BTW -- if you work for an office and they come around to get you to donate to United Way and pressure you...you know "except for you we would be 100%, we won't win the award, etc." -- tell them to you have your own charities and you are not donating, no way, no how, no matter what.)
2 posted on
05/15/2003 12:52:03 PM PDT by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: RonF; GailA; Grampa Dave; okie01
The United Way operates not unlike the UN Food for Oil Program. Normally Iraq would pay money for, say, wheat from country "A". By analogy, a donator who wanted to give to the Scouts (or other group) would give money to the Scouts.
The UN scheme adds extra costs, extra bureaucracy, extra controls. It takes a cut and decides who gets the contracts via political control, coercion, and corruption.
The United Way is a similar extra bureaucracy, exerted extra controls on the donee's dollar, takes a cut, employs more "bureaucrats", is political, and may even be involved in coercion (businesses who have connections to UW "suggesting", almost ordering, automatic charitable deductions to UW.)
Both operate under pretense of Charity. The UN program labelled "Food" - but involves so much other things, like Russian television equipment.
3 posted on
05/15/2003 12:59:55 PM PDT by
Shermy
To: RonF
I stopped donating to the UW about a year ago. They may not care about the boy scouts but if enough people quit supporting their agency, they will pay attention.
4 posted on
05/15/2003 1:02:48 PM PDT by
CindyDawg
To: RonF
5 posted on
05/15/2003 1:03:42 PM PDT by
Cindy
To: JulieRNR21; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; NautiNurse; PhiKapMom; ...
FLORIDA FREEPERS!
I just called the BSA South Florida Council and donated $50 on my MasterCard. It took me a while to get through, evidently they are getting a good number of responses from the Miami Herald's article (although the MH deliberately omitted their contact information).
Please call and help this great organization out now!
Dade: 305-364-0020
Broward: 954-584-4200
If you wish to donate via a standard check and mail it in via standard post, here is the address:
Boy Scouts of America - South Florida Council
15255 N.W. 82nd Ave.
Miami Lakes, FL 33016
There is also a web-form you can fill out if you wish to become a regular donor. Click HERE.
Yours in liberty,
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9 posted on
05/15/2003 1:17:06 PM PDT by
Joe Brower
(http://www.joebrower.com/)
To: RonF
Here is how the BSA can help a child who is smaller than the other boys or perhaps more feminine...
1) Make sure the other boys don't beat him up.
2) Make sure he is fairly included in activities
3) Make sure that ALL the scouts follow the Scout Oath and the Scout Law.
Scout Oath:
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
Scout Law:
* A Scout is TRUSTWORTHY
* A Scout is LOYAL
* A Scout is HELPFUL
* A Scout is FRIENDLY
* A Scout is COURTEOUS
* A Scout is KIND
* A Scout is OBEDIENT
* A Scout is CHEERFUL
* A Scout is THRIFTY
* A Scout is BRAVE
* A Scout is CLEAN
* A Scout is REVERENT
Any questions?
11 posted on
05/15/2003 1:35:37 PM PDT by
johnb838
(Understand the root causes of American Anger)
To: RonF
bump and bump and bump until there requirements are met!
To: RonF
Through the Southside Virginia United Way, I've made the maxx 'fair share' donation to the Robert E Lee Council #602 Boy Scouts every year for the past 22 years thru 2003. After reading
this article, I will never give them another dime of my hard earned money and you can tell them I said so!
To: RonF
BuMp
18 posted on
05/15/2003 3:36:22 PM PDT by
FourPeas
To: RonF
People can still give to the scout programs through the United Way if they mark that they specifically want the funds to go there.That's what I do.
Yes, I could send the money directly to the Boy Scouts, and they'd probably get a little more of it...but I do it this way to make a point.
23 posted on
05/15/2003 6:18:00 PM PDT by
Amelia
(#8!)
To: RonF
I donate to the BSA, I don't give United Way the time of day and never will.
26 posted on
05/15/2003 6:35:32 PM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: RonF
...........reneged on an agreement...........
27 posted on
05/15/2003 6:36:45 PM PDT by
breakem
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