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Assault Weapons Ban : not any more - its way worse.
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Posted on 05/12/2003 4:56:44 PM PDT by OOPisforLiberals

All you anti-AWB people : listen closely. The "extended" assault weapons ban would ban TONS of guns, including ALL semi-automatic shotguns, ALL shotguns that hold < 5 rounds, M1 Garand, Mini-14, ALL semi-autos that can have > 10 rounds with or without fixed magazine.

Gives the attorney general the ability to declare a gun "not sporting" and subsequently ban it.

That's right folks, its the big one. They want 'em all. -Still- feel playing complacent about them not taking away your guns? If this goes through, handguns are toast in <= 5 years. 30 caliber rifles next. Then, there's not much left.

Its bad.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponban; awb; bang; banglist; nra
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To: griffin
Whats up Griff ? I've been busy laughing at all these Texas RAT's that swam the red river to escape to Okiehoma..........

This is getting insane here in Texas. They'll have to become RINO's just to even get close to re-election IMO.

Stay Safe !

261 posted on 05/13/2003 11:20:49 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: griffin
Age is a major part of my novel. The intergeneraional freedom split looms large throughout. Some "old geezers" who have "one more battle" in them and nothing much to lose decide, "what the hell. If not now, when?"
262 posted on 05/13/2003 11:56:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
If the libs were really crafty, they'd just take a chill pill, relax, and let time take it's toll. The freedom they hate would be dead in 30 years.

But they'll push and push. An "attorney general Schumer" under President Evita may spark an armed conflict in their haste to move too fast toward their ultimate goals.

263 posted on 05/13/2003 11:58:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: xbar
I wonder what Bill Clinton would ask for when he called 211. I need a .......
264 posted on 05/14/2003 1:37:10 AM PDT by razorbak
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To: chainsaw; GunRunner
Bush has said he would sign this bill if it gets to his desk. Tom DeLay says it has no chance of passing. But, I don't think Bush should have said this because it maght persuade some republicans to vote for it if the president is behind it.

Y'all don't get it yet, do you?

George W. Bush was for RKBA when he was Governor of Texas and needed Texas's governorship as a platform on which to run for president.

Now he's President of the United States, and he's working for a different audience now. His rich GOP backers don't like peasants owning guns any more than the frustrated Neo-Stalinists of the Left do. They're going to do a deal to skin the Second Amendment, and the media are going to help. Watch.

265 posted on 05/14/2003 3:38:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: OOPisforLiberals
Everything is in place for the kill.

Not quite. The Supreme Court has to deflect the Emerson case and its threat to the corrupt Miller decision of 1939, the one that insinuated that we really don't have an individual RKBA as a defense against confiscatory or criminal laws against ownership and possession.

266 posted on 05/14/2003 3:47:42 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Squantos
This is getting insane here in Texas. They'll have to become RINO's just to even get close to re-election IMO.

Kyle Janek and several others already have. Have to keep weeding them out in the primaries, can't always do it with the money their banks and clients throw around.

267 posted on 05/14/2003 3:49:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: griffin
Hey bro ... the thin air will help your conditioning go faster ... hehehe.

Seriously though, we can't afford to let the guard down.

I had always hoped that all of this was nothing more than political posturing ... to draw the marxists out into more and more obtuse thinking and actions. Perhpas it will in fact turn out to be so, which means it was a good peace of politicking

I would never make a good politician because I could never utter the words that I either agreed with or would let such a blatantly unconstitutional measure stand. I believe when you play politics with fundamental rights and principles ... sooner or later it catches up with you and paints you into a corner. I know it did at Klamath and that came very close to being a whole lot more than a "protest" before the tide changed and the tide turned ... but even then it is not over. The same conditions hang over those folks heads.

We need statesmen who stand firm, and we need a lot of them. Until somehow we get those numbers elected, we are going to have to live with far too many politicians (on both sides of the aisle) and hope we can keep enough conservative Republicans in there to influence them to do what is right.

Jeff

268 posted on 05/14/2003 5:31:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Sandy
Actually, they still could. By virtue of the specific firearm being identified, which necessarily brings with it mandatory registration (see California, for example), a law calling for the confiscation of that firearm is almost certain to follow. But you are right that, at least initially, already-owned firearms would seem to be "exempt." But you and I know how long "exemptions" last.
269 posted on 05/14/2003 6:03:38 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Travis McGee
Unfortunately, the way things are designed and being prepared, the next generation will probably, willingly, blindly back these people.

Look no further than how close the last presidential election was.

And let there be no doubt, add into the mix *massive* immigration, legal and illegal, the direction of public schools, etc, unlimited spending, and the future of this country is without question in peril and at risk.

270 posted on 05/14/2003 8:17:04 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: lentulusgracchus
Agree...I've made a list of my local RAT's involved and will make a point to politically stalk their butts into the lose column on election day if at all possible..... RINO or RAT !

Stay Safe !

271 posted on 05/14/2003 8:43:28 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The boat is already slowly sinking, and the 'rats are busy drilling more holes.
272 posted on 05/14/2003 11:04:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
"Age is a major part of my novel. The intergeneraional freedom split looms large throughout. Some "old geezers" who have "one more battle" in them and nothing much to lose decide, "what the hell. If not now, when?"

I'm smilin'. After reading your reply...I'm thinking about Mel Gibson's character portrayal of William Wallace talking up His troops...."And many years from now, dying in your beds, what would you give to have one chance, ONE CHANCE to tell these *&^$%#@ that they can take your life....but they can never take your FREEDOMMMMMM!"

Then he hollars some kinda barbarian blood hunger thing that sounds like, "Kablankkk!!!".

I don't know what "Kablankkk!!!" means, but I have fantasies of standing out in my back yard, in my underwear and face camo, on a night with a full moon, screaming it at the top of my lungs while I split open a coconut with my wood choppin' axe. The only thing stopping me would be those pesky neighbors calling the cops.

Can't trust nobody anymore. :(

Can't wait to get that book! :) I'd be proud to be called an "ol' Geezer" then according to your definition.

273 posted on 05/14/2003 10:27:17 PM PDT by griffin
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To: griffin
Speaking of "that book" there is an open Word file called Chapter 57 that I need to click back to. Chapter 58 is the end.
274 posted on 05/14/2003 10:35:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Charles Martel
"Old age and treachery"

Yes...the more experienced guys would keep testesterone ladden guys like me out of trouble for the most part. :)

It's a bummer when the testesterone displaces all the blood outya head.

275 posted on 05/14/2003 10:50:10 PM PDT by griffin
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To: Squantos
Whats up Griff ?"

Living and learning, Squantos.

On the bad side...I'm a little older than I used to be. On the good side, I'm a little wiser. I hope.

Stay safe yourself friend.
Mike

276 posted on 05/14/2003 10:53:25 PM PDT by griffin
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To: Jeff Head
"I would never make a good politician because I could never utter the words that I either agreed with or would let such a blatantly unconstitutional measure stand. "

Yep...that is called INTEGRITY. Not in most people's dictionary in DC. Heard an interview on Focus on the Family with Dr. Frist tonight. He seems to be a man of high standards.

God's grace to you and your family Jeff,
Mike

277 posted on 05/14/2003 10:57:46 PM PDT by griffin
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To: Travis McGee
"...Chapter 57 that I need to click back to. Chapter 58 is the end."

58!? If it has more chapters than I can squeeze rounds into a hi-cap mag....then perhaps it is too informative for my poor noggin'. 58. I'd be an old geezer by the time I get done reading it. Ok. I'll leave you alone now. Night.

278 posted on 05/14/2003 11:05:53 PM PDT by griffin
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To: Shooter 2.5
Only because Ron Paul thought it would violate the 10th ammendment. Ron Paul is, in my opinion, one of the best congressmen we have.
279 posted on 05/15/2003 5:07:39 AM PDT by Central_Floridian
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To: griffin
God's grace to you and your family

... and the same to you my friend.

280 posted on 05/15/2003 5:19:52 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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