Oklahoma bombing/Iraq link - Australian article.

The Age ^ | 5/4/03 | Roger Franklin

[_Jim]

Look at this WND article from May 4, 2001.<.i>

MORE unsubstantiated rumors.

Note - VERY few of those who have actually a) reviewed the actual court testimony and b) read the book on McVeigh ("American Terrorist") will swallow such speculative 'stories'. Those who write those stories need to 'square' their stories with the facts as found in the evidence introduced during McVeigh and Nichols trials ...

[_Jim]

McVeigh was just a useful idiot for the Iraqis

... based on absolutely no proof, NO evidence, JUST the strength of conjecture.

Good. THAT should satisfy everybody ...

</sarcasm>

[AmericaUnited]

but Smith saw a young man who was horrified by the killing of Arab soldiers. He listened closely to McVeigh's nightmarish descriptions of the killing he had done.

And that is why McVeigh was willing to help the Iraqi's. Not only to avenge Ruby Ridge but also to help avenge the poor Iraqi soldiers he thought were also killed by the evil government.

[AmericaUnited]

What about all of the eye witnesses who saw the middle eastern people with McVeigh? We're they all lying?! The answer is NO!

[_Jim]

My (often imperfect) gut instinct is that McVeigh was intelligent and sufficiently self-controlled to maintained his story and gone to his death without revealing any assistance he may have received.

Comprehensive fact-checking for the book "American Terrorist", the veritable mountain of evidence introduced against McVeigh at his trial, the phone records - calls to companies who sell explosive materials - the testimony and receipts for ammonium nitrate - all add up in my mind to the one answer that has been arrived at ...

Any 'act' that McVeigh would put on would have to 'square' with the facts, otherwise, it was just one big charade he was putting on. Day after day, week after week, no one could keep it straight and squaring with the facts - unless it was pretty d*mn close to the truth.

[_Jim]

And that is why McVeigh was willing to help the Iraqi's.

It may work in your mind that way, but *reality* is a far cry from a little mental conjuring on FR late in the afternoon ...

[_Jim]

What about all of the eye witnesses who saw the middle eastern people with McVeigh?

NEVER happened.

End of story.

[_Jim]

Taking the rest of the afternoon off ...

[AmericaUnited]

So once again, you're calling all of the eyewitnesses liars?

[jrushing]

Am I the only one who has never heard this conspiracy theory? #4 post by Mears

I should have included the above comment in posting my link. I was giving Mears info on conspiracy theories.

Your comment, MORE unsubstantiated rumors

Is correct.

[dljordan]

The whole thing was pretty strange. I watched the reports roll in on the day it happened. Two explosions, more explosives found, midddle eastern men seen on the surveillance tape (which has never been released), bulldozing the building immediately. I'm sorry but I just don't trust the government.

[nanny]

I am going to mark and read those sites - but wasn't it Pressident Bush, Sr., who brought all the Iraqi Republican guards here after Gulf War and settled them in OKC? Shouldn't we have some intelligence on those men - were they checked out before they were brought in?

[livius]

No personal page, huh? Why don't you come back this evening and tell us something about yourself?

[AmericaUnited]

I watched the reports roll in on the day it happened. Two explosions, more explosives found, midddle eastern men seen on the surveillance tape (which has never been released), bulldozing the building immediately.

Same here! There's a lot of lying and coverup going on.

[Mears]

Thanks for the article.

[Dr. Frank fan]

[Why do you think those theories contradict each other?] Common Sense.

Fine, but using Logic, they don't contradict each other.

The common denominator for contact between those who McVeigh did business with was gun shows. Not a real hot-bed of anti-US activity for foreign nationals.

So because McVeigh went to gun shows, he therefore couldn't have also made contact with Iraqi agents? Sorry, that's just not logical. He can't talk to more than one type of person at the same time? silly

[gun shows] Not a real hot-bed of anti-US activity for foreign nationals.

They're not? How do you know? Been to a lot of gun shows have you? If you were an Iraqi agent, you wouldn't go to gun shows?

The *real* case made against McVeight and Nichols involved...

Yawn. NOBODY disagrees that McVeigh and Nichols were involved in OKC bombing, stop wasting your breath!

FIND for us some critical 'element' that was supplied by somebody else (group or individual) that McVeigh needed for his bomb and maybe, just MAYBE some linkage could be made to 'another group or groups'.

Right - and I believe that's what investigators are trying to do. I'm glad you concede that it's a possibility, that's all I asked. Best,

[Dr. Frank fan]

long distance phone calls with a 'calling card' you thought was 'untraceable' - WHICH McVeigh and Nichols did do ...

Uh, if true, that's tangible proof that McVeigh and Nichols were involved in the OKC bombing (which we all know)

But it doesn't tell us anything one way or the other regarding whether they had accomplices or who those accomplices were.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Here's what puzzles me.

I'd actually like to know the truth, one way or the other, whatever it is. If McVeigh had unknown accomplices I want to know about it. If he and Nichols acted alone, I want to know that too. Either way, I just want the truth to come out.

You, on the other hand, seem to be actively rooting for one explanation (they acted alone) to be the truth. Why would you do that?

[rwfromkansas]

Disprove the evidence.

[rwfromkansas]

Jim is a govt. apologist. Ignore him.