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My favorite sporting event of the year.
1 posted on 05/03/2003 9:24:02 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
You forgot the mixologist's guide to making the perfect Mint Julip.....
2 posted on 05/03/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: nwrep
The race is a mile and a quarter.
3 posted on 05/03/2003 9:39:16 AM PDT by csmusaret
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Ever since I was a young girl, my Dad and I would bet the Kentucky Derby. Every year it was our ritual! Six years ago my father won the trifecta for $6,000! Now that my Dad is gone, I do it in his honor. He always bet the jockey. I think I'll go to his grave today and see if I can pick up a vibe!!!! He'd like that!
4 posted on 05/03/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: nwrep
Who does Bill Bennett favor?
15 posted on 05/03/2003 10:06:10 AM PDT by battlegearboat (Liberty Call!)
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To: nwrep
I've lived in the Derby City now for 15 years (a transplant from Cincinnati) and while I am not a big horseracing fan - Derby Season is rather exciting around these parts.The local stations have wall-to-wall coverage for 2 days - beginning with The Kentucky Oaks Day (Derby Eve) - that's the day at Churchill Downs for all the "local folks".

Our first Derby down here in Louisville was rather a rude-awakening, though. I mean - when you'd check out at the grocery store and the cashier tells you "Happy Derby", said wth the same enthusiasm as you would hear at Christmas time - "Merry Christmas" - it was like - "what in the world?". Also - I remember when our oldest son brought home his first Kindergarten schedule for the year (our 2nd Derby in Louisville) I never dreamed that the students got a day off - for Derby "EVE"!! I don't know when that started - but I'm told that schools began taking the day before Derby off - because so many teachers were taking the day off to go to the track.

While it can be rather exciting to live around here during the 2 weeks before Derby - I must say that it does get rather old after a while - I mean - all the hype, etc. - all the celebrity balls, parties, etc.--"Millionaire's Row" and all.

Having said all that - I do love all the tradition, the singing of "My Old Kentucky Home", so forth and so on.

Just thought I'd chime in ---- :)) ...and yes - I do plan to watch the race, while eating my traditional piece of Derby Pie ( no mint julips for me - thank you very much)

Oh yes - and one more thing - I wonder just how good ole' Governor Patton will embarrass himself this year, as he presents the Derby Cup to the winner!!! THAT was even a topic for one of our local radio talk shows this week. The question was asked of the listening audience on just how the folks attending today's races should react when Gov. Paul Patton is introduced to the crowd!!

16 posted on 05/03/2003 10:06:12 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: nwrep
I'm betting on whoever Bill Bennett takes..
21 posted on 05/03/2003 10:21:32 AM PDT by ewing
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We have a bet going amongst the 7th grade teachers in the school where I teach. Do I know how to pick 'em or what? My pics were, Sir Cherokee (to win), Empire Maker to place, and Lone Star Sky to show.
27 posted on 05/03/2003 10:41:43 AM PDT by mware
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To: nwrep
posts 3, 4, or 5 will win!
28 posted on 05/03/2003 10:53:41 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (The difference between a taxidermist and a tax collector? The taxidermist takes only your skin!)
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Going with the #4 horse and Ellis here. Who could bet against a place called Biscuit Stables? ;)
32 posted on 05/03/2003 11:59:18 AM PDT by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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33 posted on 05/03/2003 12:24:50 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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Derby Favorites Quickly Changing

"Empire Maker" is no longer the overwhelming favorite to win Saturday's Kentucky Derby.

The Bobby Frankel-trained horse had morning odds of 6-to-5, but they were 9-to-2 with about four hours to post.

The 61-year-old Frankel is seeking his first Derby victory, and he continues to deny that there's anything wrong with Empire Maker's right front foot.

The horse had an uneventful gallop at daybreak with exercise rider Jose Cuevas aboard.

Jerry Bailey will ride him in the Derby.

"Buddy Gil" and "Ten Most Wanted" were at 5-to-1 Saturday afternoon, and "Peace Rules" checked in at 6-to-1.

Edgar Prado rides Peace Rules, one day after leading "Bird Town" to victory in the Kentucky Oaks.


59 posted on 05/03/2003 1:30:43 PM PDT by michigander
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Churchill Downs - May 3rd, 2003 - Race 10
Kentucky Derby - Grade: 1
Estimated Local Post Time:     6:04 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred race
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $1,000,000
Distance:One And One Fourth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse
Jockey
Owner
Age Sex Weight
Trainer
Breeder
Odds
1 Supah Blitz (FL)
Rosemary B. Homeister, Jr.
Bee Bee Stables, Inc & Jacqueline Tortora (John Bush)
3 Colt 126
Emanuel Tortora
Bee Bee Stables, Inc & Equitor, Inc
50/1
2 Brancusi (KY)
Tony Farina
Michael B Tabor
3 Colt 126
Patrick L. Biancone
Nancy Much
30/1
3 Sir Cherokee (KY)
Terry J. Thompson
Domino Stud Of Lexington, Inc (Ken Jones)
3 Colt 126
Michael A. Tomlinson
Domino Stud of Lexington, LLC
15/1
4 Atswhatimtalknbout (KY)
David Romero Flores
B Wayne Hughes & Biscuit Stables, LLC
3 Colt 126
Ronald W. Ellis
R&R King Stables
12/1
5 Peace Rules (FL)
Edgar S. Prado
Edmund A Gann
3 Colt 126
Robert J. Frankel
Newchance Farm
8/1
6 Funny Cide (NY)
Jose A. Santos
Sackatoga Stable (Jackson W Knowlton)
3 Gelding 126
Barclay Tagg
Win Star Farm, LLC
15/1
7 Offlee Wild (KY)
Robby Albarado
Azalea Stables, LLC (Lansdon B Robbins, Et Al)
3 Colt 126
Thomas Victor Smith
Dorothy A. Matz
30/1
8 Buddy Gil (KY)
Gary L. Stevens
Desperado Stables, Inc (Scott Guenther)
3 Gelding 126
Jeff Mullins
Billingsley Creek Ranch
8/1
9 Indian Express (UT)
Tyler Baze
Phil & Sheva Chess
3 Colt 126
Bob Baffert
Highland Farms, Inc.
12/1
10 Lone Star Sky (FL)
Shane J. Sellers
Walter L New
3 Colt 126
Thomas M. Amoss
Jaime S. Carrion
50/1
11 Domestic Dispute (KY)
Alex O. Solis
David Bienstock & Chuck Winner
3 Colt 126
Patrick Gallagher
Gary Garber
30/1
12 Empire Maker (KY)
Jerry D. Bailey
Juddmonte Farms (Khalid Abdullah)
3 Colt 126
Robert J. Frankel
Juddmonte Farms, Inc.
6/5
13 Eye of the Tiger (KY)
Eibar Coa
John D Gunther
3 Colt 126
Jerry Hollendorfer
John D. Gunther
50/1
14 Ten Cents a Shine (OH)
Calvin H. Borel
Kenneth L & Sarah K Ramsey
3 Colt 126
D. Wayne Lukas
H. Ray Horn & Devil His Due Syndicate
50/1
15 Outta Here (KY)
Kent J. Desormeaux
William Currin & Al Eisman
3 Colt 126
William L. Currin
Ralph C. Wilson, Jr. Trustee
50/1
16 Ten Most Wanted (KY)
Pat Day
James Chisholm, Michael Jarvis & J Paul Reddam
3 Colt 126
Wallace A. Dollase
Jim H. Plemmons
6/1
17 Scrimshaw (KY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez
Robert B & Beverly J Lewis
3 Colt 126
D. Wayne Lukas
Stan Stefanski & Ingrid Stefanski
Churchill Downs - May 3rd, 2003 - Race 10
Kentucky Derby - Grade: 1
Estimated Local Post Time:     6:04 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred race
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $1,000,000
Distance:One And One Fourth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse
Jockey
Owner
Age Sex Weight
Trainer
Breeder
Odds
1 Supah Blitz (FL)
Rosemary B. Homeister, Jr.
Bee Bee Stables, Inc & Jacqueline Tortora (John Bush)
3 Colt 126
Emanuel Tortora
Bee Bee Stables, Inc & Equitor, Inc
50/1
2 Brancusi (KY)
Tony Farina
Michael B Tabor
3 Colt 126
Patrick L. Biancone
Nancy Much
30/1
3 Sir Cherokee (KY)
Terry J. Thompson
Domino Stud Of Lexington, Inc (Ken Jones)
3 Colt 126
Michael A. Tomlinson
Domino Stud of Lexington, LLC
15/1
4 Atswhatimtalknbout (KY)
David Romero Flores
B Wayne Hughes & Biscuit Stables, LLC
3 Colt 126
Ronald W. Ellis
R&R King Stables
12/1
5 Peace Rules (FL)
Edgar S. Prado
Edmund A Gann
3 Colt 126
Robert J. Frankel
Newchance Farm
8/1
6 Funny Cide (NY)
Jose A. Santos
Sackatoga Stable (Jackson W Knowlton)
3 Gelding 126
Barclay Tagg
Win Star Farm, LLC
15/1
7 Offlee Wild (KY)
Robby Albarado
Azalea Stables, LLC (Lansdon B Robbins, Et Al)
3 Colt 126
Thomas Victor Smith
Dorothy A. Matz
30/1
8 Buddy Gil (KY)
Gary L. Stevens
Desperado Stables, Inc (Scott Guenther)
3 Gelding 126
Jeff Mullins
Billingsley Creek Ranch
8/1
9 Indian Express (UT)
Tyler Baze
Phil & Sheva Chess
3 Colt 126
Bob Baffert
Highland Farms, Inc.
12/1
10 Lone Star Sky (FL)
Shane J. Sellers
Walter L New
3 Colt 126
Thomas M. Amoss
Jaime S. Carrion
50/1
11 Domestic Dispute (KY)
Alex O. Solis
David Bienstock & Chuck Winner
3 Colt 126
Patrick Gallagher
Gary Garber
30/1
12 Empire Maker (KY)
Jerry D. Bailey
Juddmonte Farms (Khalid Abdullah)
3 Colt 126
Robert J. Frankel
Juddmonte Farms, Inc.
6/5
13 Eye of the Tiger (KY)
Eibar Coa
John D Gunther
3 Colt 126
Jerry Hollendorfer
John D. Gunther
50/1
14 Ten Cents a Shine (OH)
Calvin H. Borel
Kenneth L & Sarah K Ramsey
3 Colt 126
D. Wayne Lukas
H. Ray Horn & Devil His Due Syndicate
50/1
15 Outta Here (KY)
Kent J. Desormeaux
William Currin & Al Eisman
3 Colt 126
William L. Currin
Ralph C. Wilson, Jr. Trustee
50/1
16 Ten Most Wanted (KY)
Pat Day
James Chisholm, Michael Jarvis & J Paul Reddam
3 Colt 126
Wallace A. Dollase
Jim H. Plemmons
6/1
17 Scrimshaw (KY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez
Robert B & Beverly J Lewis
3 Colt 126
D. Wayne Lukas
Stan Stefanski & Ingrid Stefanski

69 posted on 05/03/2003 2:03:22 PM PDT by Lokibob (my pick.........., atswhat #4)
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OK - I bet on emotion, always, and after the great story they just ran about Indian Express and Laffit Pincay Jr, I would go for him, even if he wasn't a Baffert Horse.

But I just love Baffert.... Seals the deal...

I will be rooting for Indian Express.

Baffert turns to Baze to ride Indian Express
By Jim Armstrong, Denver Post Sports Writer
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Things happen in a hurry in the thoroughbred racing industry. Two months ago, trainer Bob Baffert appeared destined to have Laffit Pincay Jr. and Victor Espinoza riding for him in the Kentucky Derby. Instead, he'll have 20-year-old Tyler Baze, who will be making his first Derby start in Saturday's race.

Pincay Jr., a Hall of Famer who won the '84 Derby aboard Swale, was forced to retire this week because of a broken neck sustained in a March 1 spill at Santa Anita. He had been scheduled to ride Indian Express - a horse purchased by Baffert on Pincay's recommendation - in the Derby.

Espinoza, who won the first two legs of the 2002 Triple Crown aboard War Emblem, was fired by Baffert after riding Derby hopeful Kafwain to a second-place finish in the Louisiana Derby. He was replaced by Patrick Valenzuela, whose comeback from drug and alcohol problems was going to be capped by his first Derby appearance in 10 years.

So what happens? Kafwain came up lame during a Tuesday workout and was scratched from the Derby, leaving Baze as Baffert's only hope. Not that Valenzuela didn't try to talk his way into the race. He went so far as to tell Baffert he could bring home Senor Swinger, a one-time Derby contender Baffert has entered in Friday's Churchill Downs card.

"He was very disappointed," Baffert said. "He was trying to talk me into running Senor Swinger in the Derby. He said, 'Hey, bro, put him in there, bro.' That's the way he talks."

When that ploy didn't work, Valenzuela switched to Plan B.

"He said, 'Hey, man, that kid, take him off,"' Baffert said. "I said, 'I can't take him off, it will ruin him.' He said, 'Ruin him? (D. Wayne) Lukas took me off Codex and put (Angel) Cordero on, and he won the Preakness. It didn't ruin me.' It's too bad. He really wanted to ride. Everybody wants to ride in the Derby. And the tough thing is he had a legitimate chance."

Longshot lookout

Since this is the Derby, a longshot has to win. Or so it seems. Which brings us to Scrimshaw, a Lukas colt that merits consideration. The colt underwent throat surgery in early March to clear a flap of loose cartilage from his windpipe, then proceeded to win the Lexington Stakes on April 19.

"It's like a near drowning," Lukas said. "After a near drowning, you get thrown in the deep end and you're not sure you can handle it. He knows now that it's fine."

By the numbers

If anyone knows how to pull off a longshot, it's Lukas. The average price of his Triple Crown wins: $19.20.

Short stuff

Media magnet Baffert, on the difficulty of maintaining perspective during Derby Week: "Everything you say is printed, so you think you're smarter. That's why all these celebrities want to save the world: because they know it's going to be in print." ... Funny Cide, second in the Wood Memorial, arrived in Louisville on Wednesday after training at Belmont Park in New York. ... Empire Maker, a 6-5 favorite after Wednesday's post-position drawing, is the most prohibitive favorite since Arazi went off at .90-1 in 1992. ... Lukas, when asked by a New York Post reporter what he thought about Empire Maker's injury: "I don't think anything of it, because it's not my horse. I've had bruised feet before, but I have no idea what this is. I'm not going there. Not with a New York writer, anyway."


70 posted on 05/03/2003 2:38:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.)
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Funny Cide - a New York bred, 1st time a NY bred has won. 1st time a gelding has won since 1929. Also, the 1st time a horse has won the KY Derby without working on the track at Churchill. His last work was at Belmont 5 furlongs in 58.2 and galloped out in 111 flat(a good work). He shipped into Churchill Downs this past Thursday.

He looked very good winning this race. I wonder if we have a Triple Crown horse here? It's been 25 years since the last one. It was 25 years until Secretariat won his. It would be good for the sport, if he (Funny Cide) did win it.

I think AtswhatImtalkinabout is still a good horse. He came running up at the end, but his timing was off. I don't think his Jockey is a route type rider. (David Flores seem to be more of a speed type) He needs someone like Eddie Delahoussaye to come out of retirement, or maybe Alex Solis. Some one who can get the time right. Oh well. I hope Funny Cide gets the Triple Crown. On to the Preakness in 2 weeks

99 posted on 05/03/2003 4:15:57 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the demacratic party. Save the USA-Vote a demacrat out of offic)
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Just got back from my neighborhood racetrack. Bet Funny Cide and Empire Maker to win and boxed them in the exacta. A $400 score, my second-biggest single race win ever. Woo-hoo! I nominate the 129th Kentucky Derby as the greatest ever.
106 posted on 05/03/2003 7:14:03 PM PDT by TedsGarage
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