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To: JHL
How does evolution contradict God?
6 posted on 04/20/2003 10:49:09 AM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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To: pragmatic_asian
My point is not to debate Creation vs. Evolution (that argument has been rehashed ad naseum elsewhere in this forum. The issue is that there are many Christians, myself included, for whom a Creationism is a basic element of their worldview. To suggest, as Trudeau does, that we are dopes is insulting. He further misrepresents Creationism as being incompatible with intellectual development.
10 posted on 04/20/2003 10:56:13 AM PDT by JHL
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To: pragmatic_asian
How does evolution contradict God?

It doesn't inherently. But the cartoon states that Creationists, who are 100% thiestic (and many.most are Christian), are unknowledgable in all the major sciences. It is a direct slap on Easter, on fundamentalists and an indirect slap at their God and Christ-believing brethren.

But, if course, I expected no less from Trudeau who is just the wise-cracking kid in the back of the High School homeroom and never grew up. If you follow his work, it has always been simple slams on those he dislikes. He has always disliked both Bushes and can't generate any real intellectual humor.

14 posted on 04/20/2003 10:57:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: pragmatic_asian
Just mho but in my heart ,I have a lot of difficulty believing that mankind evolved from some primordial soup.
26 posted on 04/20/2003 11:21:33 AM PDT by Disgusted in Texas
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To: pragmatic_asian
"How does evolution contradict God?"

The Hebrew of the Old Testament, Gen. clearly states God created everything in seven, twenty-four hour days. Man was created in God's image and I dare say He wasn't a primitive ape. To believe in evolution is to call God a liar. Either you believe what God says or you don't.

134 posted on 04/20/2003 7:01:58 PM PDT by nmh
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To: pragmatic_asian
"How does evolution contradict God?"

By itself it doesn't, it is used by some to contradict God.
That's why Marx was so anxious to write a forward for Darwin. (Darwin declined the endorsement.)
185 posted on 04/21/2003 10:31:15 AM PDT by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
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To: pragmatic_asian
DUH!
277 posted on 04/22/2003 11:31:46 AM PDT by hunyb
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To: pragmatic_asian
Re: Post 6

How does evolution contradict God?

Hi Prag,

I don't believe anyone got around to addressing your question - so let me take a shot.

The hypothesis of evolution obviously doesn't contradict the existance of an Almighty, Eternal God - because we can always construct a belief that God created the mechanism of macro Goo to You evolution.
Its just contrary to the Bible - the Word of God. And God, unlike man, does not lie.
Re-read Psalm 119 (the longest Chapter in the Bible) for an idea of the importance that God puts in His Word.
Genesis states that God created life on earth on Days 5 and 6.
Exodus 20:11 reminds us that God created the Earth in six days; and Jesus tells us that man was here from the 'beginning'. Furthermore, the evolution model brings with it some theological problems, such as:

1) God looked at the Creation after Day 6 (Genesis 2) and found that it was all 'very good'. Tough to claim this if death and destruction reigned for millions of years.

2) If death existed for millions of years - why did Christ have to die (and rise from the dead)?

1 Cor 15:22
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Rom 5:12-15
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Death entered into the world because of sin (by the disobedience of the first man). And its through Christ we can finally say:

1 Cor 15:55-57
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, although evolution doesn't 'contradict God' - it is incompatible with the Bible.

And we've been told to reject God's Word for what? A fairy tale that requires organisms to gain genetic information. We're told to believe that a 'quantum fluctuation' created the universe, the galaxies, the stars, and eventually lifeless chemicals that coalesced together and formed life... To believe less, would be to reject 'science'.
Funny, this handicap didn't seem to hamper Creationists Issac Newton, Kepler, Pasteur, Robert Maxwell, etc ... but I guess they were lucky ignorami.

Well, I've droned on too long on this one, and as one poster put it earlier -- these Evolution vs. Creation threads can go on forever.
If I may, I'd like to recommend answersingenesis.org and icr.org as two excellent websites to review.

377 posted on 04/23/2003 10:04:18 PM PDT by El Cid
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To: pragmatic_asian
Man,
I have not read Doonesbury in years. I now remember why. Ever notice how easy it is for any media fixed component can attack Christianity with no repercussions? Makes me mad to know that the very foundation for which I stand is easily attacked, but if any other group is attacked in the same way there would be hell to pay. So sad….. Liberal Dogma must end!
499 posted on 04/30/2003 6:15:57 AM PDT by Segale2001 (Old School Amwerica will rise again.)
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To: pragmatic_asian
How does evolution contradict God?
1. The God who speaks in Genesis says that "death" came to us NOT inorder for him to "evolve" our species, but as a punishment and consequence of sinful rebellion against him.
2. Devolution is evident in the creation but we have never OBSERVED evolution of the macro kind (by that I mean from one species to another) so Evolution contradicts real science.
504 posted on 04/30/2003 7:10:51 AM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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