[JHL]

My point is not to debate Creation vs. Evolution (that argument has been rehashed ad naseum elsewhere in this forum. The issue is that there are many Christians, myself included, for whom a Creationism is a basic element of their worldview. To suggest, as Trudeau does, that we are dopes is insulting. He further misrepresents Creationism as being incompatible with intellectual development.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I'm not a Creationist, but unabashedly embracing evolution at this point in time would mean I was dumber'n a bag o'doorknobs!

[Lady Eileen]

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[TomSmedley]

To suggest, as Trudeau does, that we are dopes is insulting. He further misrepresents Creationism as being incompatible with intellectual development.

I work with several Christian world-view ministries, including my local church and Imago Dei. As I keep telling these young folks, "You can't fight something with nothing. Never bring a knife to a gun fight." In order to be sound and solid in our faith, we need to think about explicitly Biblical/Christian biochemistry (see Michael Behe's book Darwin's Black Box), genetics (invented by a Christian minister, Grigor Mendel), ecology, paleontology, anatomy, physics, astronomy, geology, cosmology, history and archeology.

The world view we were brought up in through American public education has as its root purpose the explicitly denial of the God-honoring facts in each of these crucial areas. Instead, we were offered the most bizarre grim fairy tales of spontaneous generation, primordial soup, and a universe as an artifact without an artisan; as all the truly intelligent people know, it magically created itself.

[kkindt]

Not only does he suggest that we ignore or don't know about evolutionary doctrine but he makes the claim that modern biology and chemistry etc. all DEPEND upon evolution being true. Hog wash. ALL modern medicine, chemistry can be conducted and is being conducted by Christians who do not believe in evolution and their practice and treatment of patients doesn't depend upon them believing in Evolution. And please, do not cite to me the idea that penicillin used too much in treatment causes bacteria to "evolve". That is not true - they don't become anything more than bacteria. What happens is that too much penicillin gets rid of the "weaker" bacteria so that stronger one's survive. That is not real evolution of one kind of species to another - and that is the issue at hand.