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Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban
Washington Post ^
| April 12, 2003
| Unknown
Posted on 04/12/2003 7:50:38 AM PDT by Mini-14
The Bush administration is bucking the National Rifle Association and supporting a renewal of the assault weapons ban, set to expire just before the presidential election. "The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told Knight Ridder.
Tossing out the ban on semiautomatic weapons is a top priority of the NRA. Bush said during his presidential campaign that he supported the ban, but it was less clear whether he would support an extension.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; assaultweapons; bang; banglist; firearm; firearms; georgebush; gun; guncontrol; guns
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To: rintense
Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc...
421
posted on
04/12/2003 5:08:08 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
To: ApesForEvolution
That is the question: fight now, or wait until the last freedom lover dies of old age.
422
posted on
04/12/2003 5:09:00 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Ronaldus Magnus
It is in the best interests of everyone here (even the Blind Bush Backers) to remind the President and his advisors that unlike democrats, Republicans vote principle over personality. Well put, Big Ron!
423
posted on
04/12/2003 5:09:09 PM PDT
by
Yeti
To: IGOTMINE
I'll finally vote LibertarianTo put Bush in his place you'll vote for a party that opposed the War in Afghanistan, oppsed the War in Iraq and wants open borders? Could you explain that logic to me?
To: rintense
Actually, for home defense, you'd probably do well to skip the rifle and use a scattergun. As for banning "assault weapons:" it's sort of like banning cars that are painted green--it just doesn't make any sense.
To: dinodino
Actually, for home defense, you'd probably do well to skip the rifle and use a scattergun. As for banning "assault weapons:" it's sort of like banning cars that are painted green--it just doesn't make any sense.A scattergun, and shotgun have been recommended. But I kinda liked the way the glock felt in my hand. ;) OTOH, if I had a rapid fire assault weapon, aim wouldn't really be as big an issue as it would be with a glock.
426
posted on
04/12/2003 5:12:31 PM PDT
by
rintense
(Freedom is contagious. And everyone wants to catch it.)
To: rintense
See? That's my point. Even if someone had a supposely legitimate reason to ban some group of firearms that are especially dangerous, the AW ban does not do that. Instead, it bans certain firearms based on primarily cosmetic bases. It is bad law, and is a typical liberal law, as it doesn't actually accomplish anything, but it allows liberals to "show they care" by passing a symbolic law.
To: Travis McGee
If Bush's idea of constitutional America is the best we can do, the answer is apparent. He can feel the heat and change the tune or step aside for a fervant world communist which will force the issue once and for all. He continues to take on unconstitutional issues from the wrong view point, as opposed to taking the leadership role of persuading with logic out to the voters. We have all seen his ability to lead - when he wants to. So why doesn't he lead on such important constitutional issues????
428
posted on
04/12/2003 5:14:46 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
To: rintense
429
posted on
04/12/2003 5:14:47 PM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
To: rintense
Again: an "assault weapon," aka "semiauto rifle," doesn't fire any faster than your Glock. It fires and cycles as quickly as your finger pulls the trigger. A full automatic weapon, which sprays bullets while you hold down the trigger, is legal (but expensive) and would never be considered for home defense. Owners of full auto weapons are primarily corporations and collectors.
To: dinodino
Oh, it's kinda like the movement to ban SUVs- they take up too much oil and are bad for the environment. I will be pissed as hell if my choices get limited, so I can completely understand why folks are upset about this assault weapon ban.
431
posted on
04/12/2003 5:15:30 PM PDT
by
rintense
(Freedom is contagious. And everyone wants to catch it.)
To: rintense
You shouldn't use a rifle for home defense, as it is likely to send a bullet through a wall, posing a threat to your neighbors. If you want a long gun for home defense, use a shotgun. Handguns are good home defense weapons, because they are unlikely to pose a risk to neighbors because they are not as likely to penetrate walls as is a rifle.
Why an "assault weapon." Keep in mind: A true assault weapon is one capable of selective fire, meaning that it can be switched to fire one shot at a time, in three round bursts, or in full-auto mode, meaning that bullets come out of the gun as long as you hold down the trigger. These sorts of weapons are considered machine guns and have been restricted since 1934.
Now, an "assault weapon" (note the quotes!) is a gun that looks scary, and has a full-capacity (like 30 rounds, but varies, depending on the gun.) They may have certain ergonomic features, like: a flash-hider (good in combat, when you don't want the enemy to see your position), a folding stock (good for compactness) a bayonet mount (good for when you need a bayonet in CQB, perhaps), a pistol grip (more ergonomic than a straight stock) etc. They don't function any differently than a deer rifle, they just are "military style" semi-auto (self-loading) rifles.
We need to have the same type of weapons that our military has, in case we are called upon to defend our country or defend ourselves from our own government. The military uses these type of rifles for a reason: because they are better, lighter, easier to use, etc. Believe me, you'd be much more comfortable shooting an "assualt rifle" than you would be shooting your typical deer rifle.
Hope this helps.
To: dinodino
Wait a second. An assault rifle is banned, but a rapid fire 'spray' automatic weapon isn't? What the fark is up with that?
433
posted on
04/12/2003 5:16:47 PM PDT
by
rintense
(Freedom is contagious. And everyone wants to catch it.)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
That is the sole reason for the invasion, et. al.In the future please show us your "I AM STUPID" sign before you post, that will save us from reading your bull ship.
Thanks.
434
posted on
04/12/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
To: rintense
The big difference is that guns, unlike SUVs, are Constitutionally protected. An armed populace is necessary to prevent the rise of tyranny. In fact, one could argue that it's one's patriotic duty to own and know how to operate a gun.
To: rintense
Full-auto weapons are legal. Yep. Read it again: they're legal. Quite expensive, as the tax stamp was $500 per gun the last time I checked, and the guns themselves sell for thousands. Again, only corporations and collectors/enthusiasts own these.
To: rintense
You're welcome. Oh, and as a partial response to your post #416, let me say that, as a lifelong shooter of every kind of firearm short of destructive devices imaginable, that if I could posess only ONE rifle, just one, it would invariably be one called an "assault weapon". As I said, they are the best all-around rifles ever made.
437
posted on
04/12/2003 5:20:21 PM PDT
by
Long Cut
(ORION Naval Aircrewman!)
To: rintense
I would just like someone to give me a practical reason as to why they would want an assault weapon- other than saying 'because I don't have to show a need'.
382 -rin-
Semi/auto large capacity magazine fed rifles in available military calibers are the best, most practical self defense tools on the market.
-- Why isn't that fact obvious to you?
394 tpaine
Because I don't know a lot about guns.
Sheesh. Give me a break. I'm trying to learn something here and a few of you have your panties in a twist over sincere questions.
412 -tense-
Sheesh, --- I ask a sincere question and get accused of wearing bunched up panties.
438
posted on
04/12/2003 5:20:37 PM PDT
by
tpaine
To: rintense
I should clarify: full-auto weapons brought into the U.S. after 1986 (I believe) may not be transferred to individuals--only law enforcement and manufacturers.
To: Timmy
"First of all, the "assault weapons ban" doesn't actually DO anything. You know nothing on this subject. If you are real quiet maybe folks will forget that you posted this.
440
posted on
04/12/2003 5:22:34 PM PDT
by
Eaker
(64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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