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Reclusive Saddam lies low and fuels rumours
Reuters | 4/02/03 | Dominic Evans

Posted on 04/02/2003 11:35:21 AM PST by kattracks

Reclusive Saddam lies low and fuels rumours

By Dominic Evans

DUBAI, April 2 (Reuters) - Within hours of firing their first shots in a war to overthrow President Saddam Hussein, U.S.-led forces hinted that the man who has ruled Iraq for a quarter of a century might be dead.

Since that opening salvo three weeks ago specifically targeting Saddam, rumours have swirled in global markets and media over his fate, fuelled by his lack of public appearances and reliance on broadcasting recorded messages to his people.

But experts caution against writing off a man who, obsessed by security, has lain low for years, saying Saddam's behaviour during the war is entirely in keeping with his reclusive habits.

"It's rubbish to say he's not in control," said Toby Dodge, an Iraq specialist at Britain's Warwick University, dismissing speculation triggered by an address to Iraqis on Tuesday which Saddam left to his information minister to deliver.

"The fact he didn't give a live broadcast is not important. If you can find one incident of Saddam Hussein giving a live broadcast in the last 10 years, I'd like to hear it."

Officials dismiss rumours about their leader's fate as propaganda.

"He is still alive, he is in our hearts, he is our president," senior Information Ministry official Uday al-Taie told French television on Wednesday.

Iraqi television showed pictures on Wednesday of Saddam, in military uniform, smiling and laughing with his ministers. It was unclear if the pictures were new.

Not everyone is convinced Saddam is still running the show.

U.S. generals repeatedly drive home their message that they see no sign of Iraq's military defence being led from the top.

And each time Iraqi television has shown Saddam meeting his top aides or addressing his people, traders, politicians and generals have pored over the pictures to assess what proof they offer that Saddam is still alive and in control.

PALE AND PUFFY

Every message is examined for signs that it could have been recorded before the war broke out. The president's reported use of doubles for many years had added to the confusion.

In one wartime broadcast he seemed pale and puffy and not quite himself; in another he sat slumped in a heavy trenchcoat, looking under the weather.

An address from Saddam, delivered by his Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf on Tuesday, only served to fuel speculation because Saddam failed to deliver the speech himself.

The dollar briefly rallied after Saddam's no-show, boosted by the view that he could be dead or incapacitated -- and that the United States could be close to its goal of "regime change."

"Saddam called for jihad (holy war), but he didn't even show up for it," said one New York trader, adding that the word on the trading floors was that the president was dead.

Saddam is last believed to have appeared in public at a military parade at least two years ago.

He even stays away from his own lavish birthday celebrations every April in his home town of Tikrit.

Shortly before the war he gave two interviews for Western television, one with a British politician and the other with a U.S. television news anchorman.

Many analysts say his extreme caution stems from fears that his biggest threat comes not from the U.S. enemy, but from rebellion within his own armed forces.

"Until the very last day of any U.S. campaign, his generals are by far the clearest and most present danger to his survival," Dodge said.

He said U.S. comments suggesting Saddam could already be dead were aimed at reassuring a domestic audience that the campaign against Iraq, which has faced stiffer resistance than predicted, was close to achieving its goal.

They could also be intended to embolden Saddam's generals, who are unlikely to have seen him in the last two weeks and probably only get their orders by courier, to turn against him.

"They are putting pressure on Saddam himself to show his hand in public -- and then the Americans would get him," Dodge said.

04/02/03 14:04 ET


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: decapitation; iraqifreedom
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To: kattracks
He is either dead, in a vegetative state or buried alive - with massive earth mover access required to remove him....
21 posted on 04/02/2003 11:47:35 AM PST by databoss
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To: Mamzelle
If Saddam is alive, he does know that some one in his inner circle, has been ratting on him, telling his whereabouts. Saddam may be trembing with fear, and he might think it is a good idea to be a chicken and not a brave leader.
22 posted on 04/02/2003 11:49:55 AM PST by tessalu
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To: kattracks
Saddam is in ultra-mega-perma-reclusion in his underground bunker/coffin.
23 posted on 04/02/2003 11:50:58 AM PST by Manic_Episode
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To: Bryan24
I was wondering if anyone else caught that the article said it was three weeks ago that W came knocking.
24 posted on 04/02/2003 11:51:52 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: Bryan24
You beat me to it.
1, 3, 4, 6 ......
25 posted on 04/02/2003 11:52:21 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (uhhhh........I got nothin')
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To: tessalu
His best hope is to let the public know he's still alive...nobody fears a dead man, or a hiding one, and he needs to keep them afraid. I'm betting he's dead.
26 posted on 04/02/2003 11:52:52 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: kattracks
Who cares where this pig is -- he does not matter anymore. The Iraqi government is going bye-bye now, but they will speak their B.S. till the moment they are gone.
27 posted on 04/02/2003 11:53:41 AM PST by jerrymdss
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To: kattracks
What did he do during the Gulf War, does anyone remember? Did he disappear for that time, or did he make regular and unambiguous appearances? (That question from my smarter half.)

Dan
28 posted on 04/02/2003 11:54:10 AM PST by BibChr (Liberalism means never even having to admit to yourself that you SHOULD be sorry)
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To: Petronski
Ditto your "lying low"...

SadSack and his wasted sperm of sons are just about at Dante's 7th circle of hell and continue to drop.

"..The mills of the gods grind slow, but exceedingly fine.." (read it some where in college many moons ago) :-))

Mustang sends.
29 posted on 04/02/2003 11:55:16 AM PST by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: kattracks
Whether his body is alive or not doesn't really matter - Saddam is dead.
30 posted on 04/02/2003 12:01:15 PM PST by trebb
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To: Bryan24
Since that opening salvo three weeks ago specifically targeting Saddam

As several FReepers have now noted, Reuters' excels in rumor and innuendo, lags in accuracy.

MEMO TO REUTERS:
TWO WEEKS
NOT THREE WEEKS


31 posted on 04/02/2003 12:01:20 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All
I have stated this on numerous threads, but this is the best place.

Saddam died over three months ago.
His top aides, and sons have kept it quiet to protect their regime/wealth/power.

One of his sons was likely killed in the tactical strike ('target of opportunity') that occurred at the so-called 'beginning' of this coalition effort.

We don't have physical proof of Saddam's death, but we know when and where. It was and is to our benefit to keep it under wraps, as it would have caused major conflict in the coalition's drive to liberate the Iraqi citizens from Saddam's totalitarian regime.

SO, both sides want everyone to think Saddam is still alive, but for different reasons.
32 posted on 04/02/2003 12:03:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (A)
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To: kattracks
Yeah, He's reclusive alright.

He's also been at Room Temterature since about March 21st.

33 posted on 04/02/2003 12:12:24 PM PST by Pompah
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I noticed this as well. Newt made the same point referring to Rather's shameful interview in which he addressed Saddam as "Mr. President" and "Sir." Aid and comfort.
34 posted on 04/02/2003 12:14:06 PM PST by Desecrated
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To: kattracks
I think Ole' Saddam picked a bad day to give up opium.

35 posted on 04/02/2003 12:19:50 PM PST by Yankee
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To: Eva
If he's dead, and the Ba'ath party doesn't want his death known, then why not trot a double out? If he's alive, then he doesn't need a double and can tape himself reading a current newspaper, get the tape broadcast and rally his people.

What I don't understand is why neither of these options are being taken.
36 posted on 04/02/2003 12:22:32 PM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: All

Saddam Hussein is seen in public for the first time since 03/20/2003.


37 posted on 04/02/2003 12:25:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Iraqi leadership has yet to confirm identity)
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To: BibChr
What did he do during the Gulf War, does anyone remember? Did he disappear for that time, or did he make regular and unambiguous appearances?

I've also wondered about this. I can't remember what sort of profile he had in Gulf War I. But, I watched an interview with Norman Schwarzkopf on one of the news channels in the last 2 weeks. He said that Saddam was fairly prominent UNTIL we bombed the front and rear of the convoy he was traveling in. After that, Saddam didn't make any more public appearances.

38 posted on 04/02/2003 12:35:35 PM PST by CityOnAHill
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To: Bryan24
Since that opening salvo three weeks ago specifically targeting Saddam...

Y'all have to back off Reuters. They have to distort time, otherwise how are they going to declare us in a Vietnam quagmire faster than we will win?
39 posted on 04/02/2003 12:35:53 PM PST by blanknoone
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To: kattracks
It's rubbish to say he's not in control," said Toby Dodge

Yes, and I'm sure toby would know.

40 posted on 04/02/2003 12:37:59 PM PST by paul51
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