Peshmerga Advance Towards Kirkuk (Turkey, Kurds)

ZAMAN ^ | 03-30-03 | editor

[pkpjamestown]

The same Iraqi troops that have displayed such strong resistance to the coalition forces in the south of the country have reportedly shied away from encounters with the Kurdish peshmerga in the north and retreated to their lines around the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

The peshmerga are believed to have advanced approximately 25 kilometers and are nearing Kirkuk, after having begun their operation several days ago. In addition, the Kirkuk-Kurdistan Web site claims that forces of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) are currently 20 kilometers outside of Kirkuk.

During negotiations conducted with the United States, Turkey had demanded that peshmerga not be used in potential attacks on Mosul and Kirkuk and that control of the region rest totally with U.S. troops. Turkey has warned that it will intervene in northern Iraq in the event that the Kurdish peshmerga enter Mosul and Kirkuk.

[a_Turk]

>> I cannot see a case for Turkey having ANY claim over Kirkuk, for it is part of Iraq.

Turkey is not making any such case.

[WaterDragon]

We might have been able to do as the Turks requested IF they had allowed us to move troops into northern Iraq from Turkey. The Turks have damaged their standing badly. Rumsfield doesn't want to see them go down economically, and he's right, though I would shed no tears for the Turks.

[Mortimer Snavely]

According to an American I know who was locked up in that same prison, foreigners have an experience more like Ray Liotta's in the movie Good Fellas , with cable TV, carpeting, and other niceties.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

I guess apparently all Kurds aren't the same. We're dealing with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, maybe those villagers were allied with the Union of Patriotic Kurdistan.

[a_Turk]

These villagers are citizens of Turkey.

The US is dealing with both the KDP and the PUK.

The KDP harbors the terrorist PKK..

[cookcounty]

Saddam may want the Turks to come in at this point, just to cause confusion for US/UK.

[cookcounty]

"I beleive the Turks were paid-off by Saddam to hold-up the US 4th Army ID from coming in by the North."

Saddam supposedly has $20 billion in Swiss bnks, so it would be quite possible. If Saddam is dead, and nobody knows the acct numbers and pin numbers, do the Swiss banks get to pocket his loot? Hey, is THIS how the Swiss make their money?

[wtc911]

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas....hopefully we will catch no more from the duplicitous turks.

The bottom line is your people don't need us any more to save them from the Soviets. You read this as carte blanche to back stab us. turkey is a muslim state. It kept us from opening a northern front. US and UK troops are paying the price for turkey's lack of honor even as we speak.

You are nothing but an apologist for the whore on the corner.

[wtc911]

I hope you understood that my remarks were not directed toward you but to ankara's messenger.

[a_Turk]

>> You are nothing but an apologist for the whore on the corner.

I asked you again and again to stop pinging me. I am not interested in a flame war. Just leave me the heck alone.

[pkpjamestown]

The Iraqi War May Change the Very Complexion of Mideast !

[a_Turk]

>> In Turkey there is the outlawed PUK. In Syria there is the Democratic Party-Syria and in Iran there is the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan.

LOL!

The author of the article you linked us to is an idiot.

The outlawed PUK! Not even so!

Pathetic. Everyone is a critic! LOL!

You should have read the article before you linked us to it..

But then you probably did!

ROFLMAO!

[pkpjamestown]

I did not link anything to you, but I am glad you are amused, in spite of your misery.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"US and UK troops are paying the price for turkey's lack of honor even as we speak."

This is almost true. The Turkish Parliament was unable to decide on US troops by a margin of THREE, count 'em, THREE votes.

"You are nothing but an apologist for the whore on the corner. "

This is not true.

Has it occurred to you that, perhaps, Turkey is being governed by something like the Clintons? That, perhaps, thinking Turks are as disgusted with the current state of affairs as, for example, Freepers trying to explain Clinton's egregious abuses of power?

[Mortimer Snavely]

I was in Turkey for about a year and a half, found it to be a garden of Earthly delights for a thinking man, and seriously wish I was there now.

[Mark17]

What a third world hell hole!

I was at Incirlik. You are right. What a third world hell hole.

[wtc911]

Close doesn't count. The bottom line remains the same. And, if you think that AT is not an apologist for ankara then what is he? Every post of his excuses some turkish misstep by placing the blame anywhere else. I understand from your past posts that you have some form of affinity for things turkish. This clearly obscures your vision. I do not mean this as an attack; I feel the same way about some other countries and am probably similarly biased.

[wtc911]

Get used to it. You constantly insult posters' intelligence. I though will never stoop to personal attack and will only use either established facts or your own words in reply to you.

The number of forum and private responses I get from freepers who see you as I do far outweigh the number I get in your defense (one so far...from snavely)

See you around...

[a_Turk]

I asked you again and again to stop pinging me. I am not interested in a flame war. Just leave me the heck alone.