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I'm beginning to this this whole war is a farce. It's based on 'we have to destroy this village to save it' philosophy. It is also based a bit on 'if we dangle freedom in their face, what idiot won't take it?'

Well, a lot of idiots out there do NOT want it. The iraqis aren't worshiping US ass now because we've bombed them. Any notion that they would was folly.

I'm sorry to be so harsh, but we have to face it. You can't get blood from a turnip, as my grandmother used to say.

We aren't going to fix iraq. We *can't*.

That said, the option I support it depopulation. There's simply no other answer at this point. Either we give up and die, or fight and win.

Right now we're trying to play the middle and we're gonna lose, badly.

...Right now we're trying to play the middle and we're gonna lose, badly...

Monty, I hope you have the balls to come back on here and eat some crow when you are proven wrong... you are watching too much T.V. This is going so much better than the talking heads would lead you to believe. Just wait...you will see.

I agree.

I just don't understand why we are sending any ground troops in. Ground troops aren't going to help find WMD secreted away in some canisters in Saddam's third cousin's secretary's basement. And they are not going to help kill Saddam, who can be more efficiently killed by a massive bombing campaign, which is what we started with, and what will finally get him.

What good is taking over Basra or Baghdad going to do us but expose our troops to danger and cause us to get involved in expensive, ultimately failed efforts at nation-building.

We are after Saddam specifically. Forgetting all the past Bush blunders on Iraq, what do we do now? Bomb the living crap out of all the presidential palaces AND bomb all the mosques, hospitals and apartment complexes, includng the Rashid Hotel, where Saddam and his cronies might be.

It just kills me that we are pussy-footing around, not wanting to hit mosques and the like because of some misguided political sensitivities, while our troops are being exposed to incredible danger (fake surrenders, ambushes and the like.) We should accomplish the mission with the maximum aggression. When we bombed Dresden we just let the bombs fall almost indiscrimately, and we should do the same or more here.

I will say the one thing that does concern me is the fact that throughout the Arab world, they clearly are supporting Iraq. This is even with the knowledge that Saddam is a bad guy. These people mostly live in countries with governments friendly to the US so it is not as if anyone is putting a gun to their head to support Saddam. Why is it inconceivable that most Iraqis who have been fed a steady diet of anti-US propaganda can hate BOTH Saddam and hate the US at the same time?