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Antiwar activists try to protest, not offend
Miami Herald ^ | March 19, 2003 | Frank Davies

Posted on 03/20/2003 6:28:49 AM PST by Nick Danger

Antiwar activists try to protest, not offend

BY FRANK DAVIES

WASHINGTON - Faced with the reality of a U.S. invasion of Iraq, activists who tried to prevent combat are scrambling to oppose the war without alienating many Americans who back U.S. troops going into action.

A coalition of groups plans nonviolent civil disobedience at noon today as close to the White House as they can get. Under the Code Orange alert status, that means the north side of Lafayette Park.

Another group, Iraq Pledge of Resistance, expects acts of civil disobedience -- blocking federal buildings and bases, for example -- in 54 cities once war begins.

''We don't want to anger the average person, and we're trying to carefully target what we're doing,'' said Gordon Clark, national director of the campaign. ``But there is great anger over this war, and I expect civil disobedience on the scale of the Vietnam War.''

Many antiwar organizations used Tuesday to regroup after President Bush announced his 48-hour ultimatum to Saddam Hussein on Monday night. Some activists admitted they are frustrated at the inability to affect U.S. policy.

''I'm feeling very helpless,'' said Mary Fox of West Chester, Pa. ``We do everything we can and it doesn't seem to make a difference.''

But some organizers say the reality of combat will only spur them on as they look for new ways to channel their efforts.

Several antiwar groups are considering a humanitarian fund drive to help refugees who are already fleeing their homes in Iraq.

Another priority will be veterans' benefits, which face cuts in a budget proposed by House GOP leaders.

And President Bush's doctrine of preemptive war will continue to be a target, organizers say.

''Maybe we can't stop this war, but we can help shorten it and prevent a long occupation of Iraq,'' Clark said. ``We have a tremendous network of people and they're not going away.''

United for Peace, a broad coalition, is calling for work stoppages starting today, and demonstrations at federal buildings as soon as the invasion begins.

Some organizers plan to disrupt traffic in New York's Times Square at 5 p.m., three hours before Bush's ultimatum runs out.

The reality of having troops in combat within days or hours has also fueled a surge of support for the military -- some of it nonpartisan, some of it sharply critical of antiwar activists.

Conservative groups such as Free Republic Network and College Republicans are planning ''Rallies for America'' this weekend in several dozen cities.

''Most Americans support our troops and support the president's plan to end Saddam Hussein's terrorist regime,'' said Bob Johnson, director of Free Republic Network.

Another conservative activist, George Primbs, said many backers of Bush's policy have been slow to mobilize. He just started a website ( war.us) as a clearinghouse for war supporters.

''The antiwar crowd should calm down,'' said Primbs, who called protests during wartime ``anti-American.''

The tendency to mute debate during combat was reflected in a call by HispanicVista.com, a California-based website of diverse opinions on many issues -- until now.

''For those who feel the war is wrong, put your feelings on hold -- until after the war. Hold your tongue -- until after the war,'' the editors of the website said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: sakic; Admin Moderator
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41 posted on 03/20/2003 7:57:35 AM PST by anymouse
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To: sakic
Me: "Any protest against America is offensive."

You: "All of those protests against Clinton were offensive to you?"

Clinton is not "America". He was the choice of those who elevate evil.

42 posted on 03/20/2003 7:57:51 AM PST by nmh
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To: Black Agnes
Did you completely miss the Hizbollah flags in the DC protests? I was there, there were *many* Hamas and Hizbollah flags.

Yes I completely missed them but I believe that they were there. Certainly among any large group there will be a certain percentage of garbage. What percentage of people at these gatherings do you believe are supporters of Saddam?

43 posted on 03/20/2003 8:03:04 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
Um, judging from the protest I witnessed, there were *many* Hizbollah flags. Hamas flags also. The whole protest was based on us 'deserving' 9/11. They shouted Death to the Israel. What more do you need?
44 posted on 03/20/2003 8:04:28 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: FITZ
''I'm feeling very helpless,'' said Mary Fox of West Chester, Pa. ``We do everything we can and it doesn't seem to make a difference.''
Although majority rule is a simple decision rule as between two candidates, there is no principled way to narrow the field down to only two candidates for each office. Nor is there a principled way to draw district lines for Representatives and in many other, more local offices. And the principle which defines the boundaries of the States themselves is neither more nor less than tradition.

But we-the-people cannot as a practical matter, even with the current state of technoloy, exercise sovereignty on the day-to-day matters of our Republic, so we exercise our sovereignty only on Election Day. The rest of the time soverignty is exercised in our name by those elected--elected in an imperfect process. Some choose to call it "selected", when that process does not yield the result they individually prefer.

Those who clamor that our representatives do not act in their name, themselves presume to speak in the name of we-the-people. This is a childish tantrum rather than an argument. Whoso lets a tantrum control our government represents me poorly indeed.


45 posted on 03/20/2003 8:04:32 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: anymouse; Admin Moderator
Moron alert
46 posted on 03/20/2003 8:12:03 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
I don't recall any anti-Clinton protests that included burning American flags, destruction of property, disrupting traffic by lying in the streets, splattering recruitment offices with blood, or laying naked in a field naked with your sistas' to spell slogans. Now-tell me again about those anti-Clinton protests.
47 posted on 03/20/2003 8:14:42 AM PST by zygoat
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To: nmh
Clinton is not "America". He was the choice of those who elevate evil.

He was voted into office by your countrymen. Clinton is not America. Bush is not America. No president is America. America is far bigger than any president.

48 posted on 03/20/2003 8:14:50 AM PST by sakic
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Kalispell Montana will be having a Rally this weekend. I've never been to one of these events, but I'll be going to this one.

Semper Fi
49 posted on 03/20/2003 8:15:09 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: anymouse
Sakic is like a troll -- he/she lives in wet dark palaces of the mind, sort of like living under rotten bridges.
50 posted on 03/20/2003 8:16:41 AM PST by bvw
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To: Black Agnes
The people you're describing as giving support to Hamas are no doubt among us but I don't believe that the vast majority of those who were opposed to invading Iraq were happy with 9/11. I can't believe that you believe that either.
51 posted on 03/20/2003 8:17:03 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic
Were they 'happy' with 9/11? Doubtful. I didn't say they were happy with 9/11. What I did say was they thought we *deserved* 9/11. Different entirely. Yes, Most of those opposed to the war with Saddam think we deserved 9/11. Have you been to one of these protests?
52 posted on 03/20/2003 8:18:44 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: zygoat
I don't recall any anti-Clinton protests that included burning American flags, destruction of property, disrupting traffic by lying in the streets, splattering recruitment offices with blood, or laying naked in a field naked with your sistas' to spell slogans. Now-tell me again about those anti-Clinton protests.

I don't recall them either but that does not mean that the right to protest is one that should disappear.

53 posted on 03/20/2003 8:20:01 AM PST by sakic
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To: bvw
There was no reason to refer to the interior of your anus in this thread. It doesn't serve much of a function other than alert your proctologist to an obvious problem that you're currently suffering from.
54 posted on 03/20/2003 8:22:04 AM PST by sakic
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To: Black Agnes
I haven't been to any of these protests and I don't believe that the vast majority of those who were against invading Iraq felt that we deserved 9/11.
55 posted on 03/20/2003 8:23:37 AM PST by sakic
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To: Nick Danger
''I'm feeling very helpless,'' said Mary Fox of West Chester, Pa. ``We do everything we can and it doesn't seem to make a difference.''

That's how the Iraqi people have felt for over 20 years.

56 posted on 03/20/2003 8:24:11 AM PST by jwalburg (Just so you know, we're ashamed the Senate minority leader of the United States is from South Dakota)
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To: sakic
Clearly you need to get out more. Every person at the anti-war protest I was at thought we deserved 9/11. There were *many many* signs saying so. We got 9/11 because we're an evil imperialistic country doncha know. Invading Iraq will get us more 9/11's so we should cower in fear indefinitely.
57 posted on 03/20/2003 8:25:06 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: sakic
Anti-war protests can also be dangerous.I take it you have not heard about the incredible supercharged bulldozer that can travel at 70 mph to overtake fleeing protesters,or the hurricane force winds in California that can blow innocent protesters off of bridges. The death toll is rising.
58 posted on 03/20/2003 8:26:37 AM PST by zygoat
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To: Black Agnes
I'll try and get out more but you won't find me at one of these protests in case you're looking for me at the next one you attend.
59 posted on 03/20/2003 8:26:46 AM PST by sakic
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To: zygoat
You lost me with those references.
60 posted on 03/20/2003 8:27:45 AM PST by sakic
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