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Democrats Defend Daschle's 'Failed Diplomacy' Remarks
CNSNews.com ^ | 3/20/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 03/20/2003 3:31:54 AM PST by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Democrats continued Wednesday to defend Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle's accusation that President Bush had "failed so miserably at diplomacy" even as they had to clarify the South Dakota Democrat's remarks.

As CNSNews.com previously reported, the South Dakota Democrat defended his original statement following the Democrats' weekly policy meeting at the Capitol Tuesday afternoon.

"Well, I stand by my statement," he told reporters. "I don't know that anyone in this country could view what we've seen so far as a diplomatic success.

"A diplomatic success is what we saw in 1991. A diplomatic success is getting a broad coalition of countries," Daschle continued. "We had nearly 20 countries in 1991."

But Secretary of State Colin Powell had already declared Tuesday morning that the Bush administration had surpassed Daschle's standard for successful diplomacy.

"We now have a coalition of the willing that includes some 30 nations who have publicly said they could be included in such a listing," Powell told reporters at a briefing for the international press. "And there are 15 other nations, who, for one reason or another, do not wish to be publicly named but will be supporting the coalition."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told CNSNews.com Wednesday morning that the sheer numbers are not the primary focus of Democratic criticism.

"The difference is this: In 1991, there were countries not only voicing their support, there were countries showing their support by sending troops to the field, risking the lives of their young men and women and also providing us with the resources to wage the war successfully," Durbin argued. "This time around, unfortunately, most of the support is vocal.

"When it comes to troops in the field, when it comes to money to execute the war," he continued, "many of these countries are not going to be there."

That was also part of Daschle's complaint Tuesday.

"A diplomatic success is having 200,000 international troops present instead of the 225,000 U.S. troops, which are present today," he said. "A diplomatic success is getting other countries to pay 90 percent of the costs incurred. All of that happened in 1991; none of that is happening in the year 2003."

Jay Farrar is vice president of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and fought as a Lt. Colonel in the Marine Corps in the Gulf War. He confirmed Daschle's criticisms.

"It's pretty much accurate," Farrar said. "To quibble, you'd be splitting hairs on exact numbers."

Of the more than 500,000 troops that comprised the coalition force against Iraq in 1991, approximately 150,000 to 200,000 were from countries other than the United States.

"The problem with Tom Daschle's statement is that he didn't clarify what he meant by 20 countries," Farrar said. "We had 20 countries contributing forces of some sort or another."

A handful of countries contributed full military units, while most of the 20 countries sent small numbers of technicians such as medical personnel and chemical/biological weapons specialists.

Farrar said the proportionate cost of the war was also as Daschle claimed.

"Some countries paid in cash to the U.S. Most countries paid 'in-kind,'" he explained. "In other words, the Saudis gave bases and base rights and fuel to the U.S. forces, the Japanese contributed cash and vehicles and things of that nature.

"But the U.S., out of its own pocket, had to finance a very small portion of it," Farrar continued, "somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 to 30 billion."

Steve Baker, a research analyst with the Center for Security Policy, did not dispute Daschle's statistics, but he did offer some perspective on the numbers.

"That doesn't include the years that the United States and England have been enforcing the 'no-fly zones' on their own - the millions of dollars that's cost - without the help of the French and others," he explained.

Baker also noted that the number of troops from other countries participating in the 1991 coalition may have had more political than military significance.

"It's a different question of how useful they were in the big picture," he said. "It had a lot, probably, to do with the political nature of the conflict rather than an actual necessity of having them on the ground."

While Daschle's detractors and supporters debate the numbers, Baker believes they are missing the truly serious damage potentially caused by Daschle's criticism of President Bush.

"It's dangerous because you could seriously undermine the morale of the forces that are there on the ground when you have a political leader saying that the President of the United States is doing his job poorly," Baker argued. "What does that say to the troops who are going to be commanded by this individual?"

Baker also criticized Daschle for failing to understand that principle.

"Daschle's efforts are simply shameful, really," he concluded.

At a political event Monday, Daschle offered the following assessment of President Bush's efforts to peacefully resolve Iraq's refusal to surrender its weapons of mass destruction to U.N. arms inspectors:

"I'm saddened, saddened that this president failed so miserably at diplomacy that we're now forced to war," Daschle said. "Saddened that we have to give up one life because this president couldn't create the kind of diplomatic effort that was so critical for our country."

Daschle also stated that he believes he can publicly disagree with Bush while still supporting members of the U.S. military. But House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) agreed Wednesday that such comments undermine the country's unity and the troops' morale.

"I think it's hypocritical to say on the one hand that you support the troops," DeLay observed, "while on the other hand, you say that it's wrong, that the reason they are risking their lives is wrong."

DeLay added that he is disturbed that Daschle "is defending the position of France.

"Anybody can say anything he or she wants to. This country has a long history of defending people's right to speak," DeLay added, "but there are consequences to what you say."

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1 posted on 03/20/2003 3:31:54 AM PST by kattracks
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2 posted on 03/20/2003 3:34:38 AM PST by mhking (Let's enjoy a great showtime!)
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To: kattracks
I like the way Fred Barnes put it on Tuesday night. He pointed out that by Daschle's standards, Pearl Harbor was a result of the failure of diplomacy, not to mention the last Gulf War.
3 posted on 03/20/2003 3:35:49 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (A proud member of the American Street)
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To: kattracks
Not only were Tiny Tom's comments highly partisan and ill-timed, they were complete BS! He's trying to claim that had diplomacy succeeded, there'd be no war. If diplomacy had succeeded, there'd STILL be war, only with UN approval. What a total distortion of the facts. But of course, the sheeple are too lazy and stupid to put 2 and 2 together and get 4. They won't analyze what he said and see that it's illogical and makes no sense. They'll just accept it at face value.
4 posted on 03/20/2003 3:36:40 AM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: kattracks
If we thought the Senate elections of '02 were bad for the demoncrats - just wait 'til next year !!
I think what we heard from Daschel was the sound of a last-gasp....
5 posted on 03/20/2003 3:36:44 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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To: kattracks
Let the losers dig a deeper hole. Our success in Iraq will shut them out of the Whitehouse until 2008.
6 posted on 03/20/2003 3:37:21 AM PST by dennisw
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To: kattracks
What the democRats call "failed diplomacy" I call

Leadership!


7 posted on 03/20/2003 3:51:45 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: kattracks
Uh wasn't there just a teensy bit of bombing/warfare in 1991, or was that part of the successful diplomacy
8 posted on 03/20/2003 3:54:02 AM PST by camle (no camle jokes, please...OK, maybe one little one)
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To: kattracks
Who has dASSHOLES quote about about the clinton admin. exahusting diplomacy?...It neeeds to be put up every time this speech is mentioned.....
9 posted on 03/20/2003 3:58:01 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: kattracks
Daschle's remarks are in themselves a 'Failed Diplomacy' on Daschle's part.
10 posted on 03/20/2003 4:01:20 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: kattracks
daschle has been trying to disenfranchise 50+ million voters for three years now. In the process he is disenfranchising the other 50 million + voter as well.
11 posted on 03/20/2003 4:10:18 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: kattracks
Tom Daschle has lost power for himself and his party. He is greatly responsible for the fix America find herself in today by the spoiled brat tantrums he has been throwing since the Republicans took over and before. Lest we forget what the banished little leader has been up to, please review the following list and add Miguel Estrada to it.

Tom Daschle should be relieved from his duties for Incompetence. He failed America and Americans and rather than admit it, he now flays at the President, a real President with enormous character who cares about the people and respects the job he has. Tom is truly a sore looser.

The following is a list of bills that have passed the House and are stalled in the Senate:

· H.R. 5005 -- Homeland Security Act of 2002
· H.R. 7 -- Community Solutions Act of 2001
· H.R. 2143 -- Permanent Death Tax Repeal Act
· H.R. 1900 -- Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act
· H.R. 2505 -- Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2001
· H.R. 3762 -- Pension Security Act
· H.Con. Res 353 -- FY 2003 Budget Resolution
· H.R. 586 -- Tax Relief Guarantee Act of 2002
· H.R. 496 -- Independent Telecommunications Consumer Enhancement Act of 2001
· H.R. 624 -- Organ Donation Improvement Act of 2001
· H.R. 1992 -- Internet Equity and Education Act of 2001
· H.R. 724 -- To authorize appropriations to carry out part B of title I of the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, relating to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
· H.R. 2983 -- Price-Anderson Reauthorization Act of 2001
· H.R. 476 -- The Child Custody Protection Act
· H.R. 2146 -- Two Strikes and You're Out Child Protection Act
· H.R. 1542 - Internet Freedom and Broadband Deployment Act of 2001
· H.R. 2985 -- American Spirit Fraud Prevention Act
· H.R. 974 -- Small Business Interest Checking Act of 2001
· H.R. 1408 -- Financial Services Antifraud Network Act of 2001
· H.R. 2589 -- Office of Multifamily Housing Assistance Restructuring Extension Act of 2001
· H.R. 3060 -- Emergency Securities Response Act of 2001
· H.R. 2052 -- Sudan Peace Act (House has named conferees/Senate has not.)
· H.R. 2272 -- Coral Reef and Coastal Marine Conservation Act of 2001
· H.R. 2833 -- Vietnam Human Rights Act
· H.R. 2541 -- To enhance the authorities of special agents.
· H.R. 741 -- Madrid Protocol Implementation Act
· H.R. 860 -- Multidistrict, Multiparty, Multiforum Trial Jurisdiction Act of 2001
· H.R. 863 -- Consequences for Juvenile Offenders Act
· H.R. 4965 -- Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act
· H.R. 2546 -- Real Interstate Driver Equity Act of 2001
· H.R. 554 -- Rail Passenger Disaster Family Assistance Act of 2001
· H.R. 3391 -- Medicare Regulatory and Contracting Reform Act of 2001
· H.R. 2722 -- Clean Diamond Trade Act
· H.R. 2563 -- Bipartisan Patient Protection Act · H.R. 3209 -- Anti-Hoax Terrorism
· H.R. 2341 -- Class Action Fairness Act of 2002
· H.R. 3801 -- Education Sciences Reform Act of 2002
· H.R. 3231 -- Immigration Reform and Accountability Act of 2002
· H.R. 4737 -- Personal Responsibility, Work, and Family Promotion Act
· H.R. 3178 -- Water Infrastructure Security and Research Development Act
· H.R. 2899 -- Freedom Bonds Act
· H.R. 4085 -- Veterans' and Survivors' Benefits Expansion Act
· H.R. 3764 -- Securities and Exchange Commission Authorization Act of 2002 · H.R. 4598 -- Homeland Security Information Sharing Act
· H.R. 1877 -- Child Sex Crimes Wiretapping Act of 2002
· H.R. 3129 -- Customs Border Security Act
· H.R. 3833 -- Dot Kids Implementation and Efficiency Act
· H.R. 4015 -- Jobs for Veterans Act
· H.R. 4085 -- Veterans' and Survivors' Benefits Expansion Act
· H.R. 4069 -- Social Security Benefit Enhancements for Women Act

It would appear that Mr. Daschle's traitorous remarks, sour politics have landed him in the same trash pile as the ex-impeached president. When he should be showing patriotism he sides with Ramsey Clark and the French and every other socialist - time to step aside Tom, you've proven yourself as useless as tits on a boar, sadly out of step and totally anti-American.

12 posted on 03/20/2003 4:20:59 AM PST by yoe
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To: kattracks
I seem to recall that Clinton spent years dipolmatic effort trying to create peace in the Middle East. Someone should ask Daschle if that is the standard by which Bush should be measured?

Why didn't Clinton negotiate peace in the Balkans? Why didn't Clinton's diplomacy disarm Iraq and North Korea? Why didn't Clinton and Carter step in and negotiate with Iraq?

13 posted on 03/20/2003 4:32:48 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: kattracks
I think it's very fitting to have the soon-to-be unelectable defending the indefensible.
14 posted on 03/20/2003 4:34:14 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: kattracks
If our diplomacy had been successful, and we had recieved a UN resolution authorizing war, we would still be exactly where we are today, except the bombs would be painted baby blue. Because that was the aim of our diplomacy.

Perhaps Daschle had a different hope for diplomacy. Maybe he thought that diplomacy could delay action to the point where the window of opportunity had closed, allowing our adversary to escape. Perhaps he thought diplomacy would lead to an open-ended inspections regime, which everybody knows would be a farce. Perhaps he hoped that diplomacy would force a humiliating US withdrawl, thus weakening the United States (but strengthening the Democratic Party).

The fact that he views the diplomacy as a failure says a lot more about Daschle's motivation than it says about the diplomacy.
15 posted on 03/20/2003 4:41:17 AM PST by gridlock (This tag line is printed with soy-based electrons on 100% post-consumer recycled ether)
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To: kattracks
So the Democrats will not hold their own accountable for dishonorable conduct. By appeasing (and inflaming) the nuts on their far left, the Dems. are putting our national security at risk...and weakening our position in the eyes of our enemies.

Contrast the mainstream press treatment of Daschle with their treatment of Lott, though Lott's comments were intended to appease an old colleague on his birthday....Daschle's were intended to undermine our CIC on the eve of war.

16 posted on 03/20/2003 4:45:19 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Help is on the way!" Dick Cheney)
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To: yoe
Reference Bump; thanks.
17 posted on 03/20/2003 4:46:58 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
My assessment of the dim situation for Tommy is that he's taking advice from the other Clinton and suffering for it. Sen Clinton has a tin ear for any form of politics other than balls out, hair on fire, death to the infidels politics of personal destruction. If she could kill the other side she would and that makes her a predictable and not so dangerous adversary.

Couple that with Tommy's natural instincts for smarmy negative overstatement, and you have Republican presidents for maybe twelve years. That's enough time for this current crop of democratic dopes to die off.

So, we are really blessed to be witnessing the death of a political class, and I'm enjoying it.

18 posted on 03/20/2003 4:47:33 AM PST by Thebaddog (woof)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
Since when is getting the "permission" of the UN considered a diplomatic success? Seems to me that even having to ask for permission is in violation of the Constitution. Dasshole and the rest of his anti-American Rats need to go and become human shields while there's still time. Or maybe go to France or Russia and teach them how to run their nation's economies since they know how it's supposed to be done in a socialist world.
19 posted on 03/20/2003 4:50:14 AM PST by 11B3 (.308 holes make invisible souls. Belt fed liberal eraser.)
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To: mewzilla; kattracks
"I think it's very fitting to have the soon-to-be unelectable defending the indefensible."


The only question I have is, what is John Thune waiting for before declaring his candidacy for Daschle's seat in the 2004 elections? I don't believe South Dakotans---who will undoubtedly support Bush's reelection with at least 65% of the vote---will turn around and choose that traitorous pipsqueak over a loyal American such as John Thune.
20 posted on 03/20/2003 5:00:45 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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