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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Buchanan, Joe Sobran, and others of their ilk are motivated by several factors:

1. As old-line, traditionalist Catholics, they share the Islamic sense that the West is decadent and no longer deserves Divine protection.

2. They are anti-Israel and possibly anti-semitic, and oppose any mid-East policy which they see as even indirectly beneficial to Israel.

3. They are isolationist and share the Founding Fathers' distrust of standing armies and complex international treaties, agreements, and commitments.

4. They are staunch believers in the 9th and 10th Amendments, and feel that mainstream Republicanism has abandoned any pretense of defending the traditional concept of Federalism.

All of these factors, plus a pro-Europe bias, tend to make them oppose Bush both personally and ideologically.
15 posted on 03/19/2003 8:13:33 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
Is it bad that the Founding Fathers distrusted standing armies and entangling alliances?
25 posted on 03/19/2003 8:24:41 AM PST by Sid Rich
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To: Steve_Seattle
There's nothing wrong with Reason #4, is there?

As old-line, traditionalist Catholics, they share the Islamic sense that the West is decadent and no longer deserves Divine protection.

I read an interesting article some time ago about the Islamic revolution in Iran. Apparently the U.S. Embassy was the second building the Islamic fundamentalists sacked when they toppled the Shah in 1979 -- the first was the Tehran headquarters of Planned Parenthood.

Not that this fact changes anything in terms of how the U.S. should have dealt with the events in Iran in 1979, but it gives an interesting perspective on how some f these nations must feel whenever they show up at a U.N. conference on women, health care, "families," etc. and find themselves seated across the table from a bunch of ugly, screeching banshees representing the U.S. and other Western countries.

32 posted on 03/19/2003 8:35:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Steve_Seattle
As old-line, traditionalist Catholics, they share the Islamic sense that the West is decadent and no longer deserves Divine protection.

This is one of the reasons I get impatient with the blue-nose crowd -- they not only oppose America's foundation of individual liberty in theory, they give aid and comfort to the savages who are trying to destroy it in practice.

66 posted on 03/19/2003 9:17:41 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Steve_Seattle
the West is decadent and no longer deserves Divine protection ...

I sure am glad God is always on our side.

155 posted on 03/19/2003 11:46:18 AM PST by berserker
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To: Steve_Seattle
1. As old-line, traditionalist Catholics, they share the Islamic sense that the West is decadent and no longer deserves Divine protection.

Check.

. They are anti-Israel and possibly anti-semitic, and oppose any mid-East policy which they see as even indirectly beneficial to Israel.

Hmm...what defines "anti-semitism?"

3. They are isolationist and share the Founding Fathers' distrust of standing armies and complex international treaties, agreements, and commitments.

Check.

4. They are staunch believers in the 9th and 10th Amendments, and feel that mainstream Republicanism has abandoned any pretense of defending the traditional concept of Federalism.

Check.

Well, it looks like I'm a dangerously unpatriotic conservative on three of four counts. But I am patriotic to America, just not what calls itself America these days.

Better ban me before I rain on the War on (Some) Terrorism Parade.

207 posted on 03/19/2003 9:21:29 PM PST by Pistias
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