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US check leads to wave of firings
Boston Globe Staff ^
| 3/18/2003
| By Cindy Rodriguez,
Posted on 03/18/2003 9:58:31 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:09:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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A controversial program designed to clear up millions of erroneous Social Security numbers has resulted in a wave of firings all over the country, as companies are told their workers have invalid numbers, sparking fear that some of them may be illegal immigrants.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; ins; invalidssn; socialsecurity
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Although the author seems to think the firings are a bad thing, I believe it is always good when our laws are enforced and illegal immigrants deported.
To: Forgiven_Sinner
Follow the money.
$345 billion in uncredited money paid into the system,
The government wants to know how much of this money it can keep without having to account for it.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:01:45 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
immigrant rights groups Another name for "take-advantage-of-illegal-immigrants-fears groups? Any evidence to the contrary?
Can any FR poster relate actual experience with these groups? Maybe the groups themselves should be investigated.
To: LurkedLongEnough
Under federal law, employers may not ask their workers about their immigration status, but they are not supposed to knowingly employ illegal immigrants and can be fined if caught.
I think this might sum up the whole problem.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:11:26 AM PST
by
Ingtar
To: Forgiven_Sinner
IMHO, the letters are serving their pupposes.
1. Notifying employers of possible SocSec. Fraud.
2. Ensuring that those who are working in this country are doing so legally.
GOOD FOR THEM
To: Sabertooth; madfly; RonDog; JackelopeBreeder; Free the USA; B4Ranch; FITZ; Yaelle; pgyanke; ...
Wholesale cleanup of illegals, PING.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:14:15 AM PST
by
flamefront
(Take the oil money from the islamofascists! And not for the UN. Only UN-Americans ignore U.S.)
To: Forgiven_Sinner
I recall when Dukakis was still Governor of Mass, (and driving it into bankruptcy) it was revealed that illegals were applying for various sorts of aid. The forms required SS numbers, and the order from the Governor's office was to "make one up". The Globe called that decision "compassionate". We call it "illegal".
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:14:47 AM PST
by
theDentist
(So..... This is Virginia..... where are all the virgins?)
To: seamole
No kidding. Our whole immigration system is in drastic need of overhaul. But maybe things have been put in motion.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:16:40 AM PST
by
BJClinton
(Ignorance is Blix.)
To: seamole
Under federal law, employers may not ask their workers about their immigration status, but they are not supposed to knowingly employ illegal immigrants and can be fined if caught.
Has to do with "reforms" enacted by Demoncrat congresses and Republican Presidents. We must be sensitive to the minorities that have high illegal immigration rates (if I were Hispanic and a US Citizen, I might feel the same way if everyone asked me to prove I was legal), but at the same time we need to punish those who knowingly hire illegals.
IMHO, employers should be required to check on anyone's documents they hire BEFORE they get hired. I wouldn't mind if my employer checked my Social Security number against the Social Security office before hiring me.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:19:10 AM PST
by
BruceS
To: theDentist
Soon after the defeat of Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis in the 1988 presidential election, in which he ran on a platform that emphasized ethics in government, it was discovered that state welfare administrators had been secretly supplying illegal aliens with fraudulent Social Security numbers so that they could receive welfare benefits. It is illegal for agencies other than the Social Security Administration to supply Social Security numbers, and it is also illegal for government agents to fail to report known illegal aliens.
To: Forgiven_Sinner
the National Immigration Law Center''No one objects to the purpose of the program,'' said Josh Bernstein, the center's senior policy analyst. ''The problem is that employers don't understand what it's about. They assume it's for immigration enforcement.''
Hmm. for a Law Center....selective enforcement( which Law must I obey?)of some laws must be the primary issue. I guess he failed to consider the laws the "employer" then faces by looking the other way.
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posted on
03/18/2003 10:42:43 AM PST
by
Madcelt
(God Bless and Keep this Republic - Peace through superior firepower!,It works!!)
To: Forgiven_Sinner
"Sitting on $345 billion in uncredited money paid into the system"
I've been assured by several Freepers that illegal immigrants do not pay taxes, but only absorb valuable resources.
I guess I'm happier with illegal immigrants working and paying taxes than with some of my fellow Americans who suck the life out of my paycheck through Social Security and Medicare( which I will never see. ) and unemployment benifits.
Hola Amigos!
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posted on
03/18/2003 11:09:16 AM PST
by
Once-Ler
(I vote Dubya)
To: flamefront
Wholesale cleanup of illegals, PING.
Let's hope it's not a "shift to the labor black market PONG."
To: seamole
This makes me sick, I have a small business and this is crazy, there should be a question on the application that says are you a US Citizen?
There usually is, if they lie they should be fired.
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posted on
03/18/2003 11:20:15 AM PST
by
dila813
To: TheAbbodad
Notifying employers of possible SocSec. Fraud. Social Security fraud is a felony crime ---I'm sure they'd want to know if they have felony committing criminals working for them.
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03/18/2003 11:36:54 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: Blood of Tyrants
"$345 billion in uncredited money paid into the system,"
Let them evenly distribute it over LEGAL SSNs, once it has aged a while.
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posted on
03/18/2003 11:47:36 AM PST
by
old-ager
To: old-ager
What? When they can keep it for themselves? If you calculate the amount of money from the illegal aliens alone, it amounts to $10 to $20 EVERY YEAR. If there is not valid SS account to credit it to, then they can do whatever they want with it.
Think of it this way, you own a bank. A company periodically deposits a large amount of cash with you. Some is ordered to be deposited in account "A", some in "B", and some to account "C". The problem is that there is no account "C" and despite years of contacting the customer, the respose is always the same, "Well, the law says I have to send it, so I sent it. It is not my problem". What do you do with the money? The account it is supposed to go in to doesn't exist.
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posted on
03/18/2003 12:12:30 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Forgiven_Sinner
sparking fear that some of them may be illegal immigrantsWhat fear? Why is anyone afraid of maintaining US LAW?
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posted on
03/18/2003 12:57:37 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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