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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: longtermmemmory
no it's not TEA time.... it's ROSENBERG time.
161 posted on 03/15/2003 2:51:26 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: longtermmemmory

'nuff said?

162 posted on 03/15/2003 2:53:44 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: texasbluebell; scouse
Ok, I think I confused Michael with Bruce. Unless Michael is another brother of Ellen's.
163 posted on 03/15/2003 2:55:38 PM PST by David1
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To: longtermmemmory
"You say our country's never been invaded? You're right, little buddy. Because I'd like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who'd have the guts to try." (P. J. O'Rourke, "Among the Euro-Weenies")

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com

164 posted on 03/15/2003 2:56:08 PM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: Cosmo
So I'm just wondering whose standing Army the UN would use. Will Cameroon be attacking us? Madagascar? This is hilarious.

I don't know, Let's ask Kofi A, the countries of Monico (sp?), Anadora, San Martino, the Papal States?....:)

165 posted on 03/15/2003 2:57:59 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Cloud William
FAL ?
166 posted on 03/15/2003 2:59:12 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: fporretto
On No!! Maybe they will pass a "Resolution" telling us we must stop immediately or face series consequences!!
Which means we must end our attack within 45 days after
3/15/2015! Do you think we can take Bagdad by then????
167 posted on 03/15/2003 3:01:52 PM PST by Phredd23
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To: Grampa Dave
i with you on that grandpa! i can't believe this! these idiot peaceniks DON'T want the us to go to war...but they WANT the un to ATTACK us? where's all their anti-war "feelings"? the enemy is definately within!
168 posted on 03/15/2003 3:10:20 PM PST by bornintexas
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To: bornintexas
We are the enemy with these Americans who love Saddam and hate GW! We are in a cultural war for the survival of our families and our country. Most Americans have not been aware of this battle until 9/11. Articles like this one wake up more Americans everyday.
169 posted on 03/15/2003 3:15:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Phredd23
HUGHLY series consequenses. If we don't cease and desist within a certain amount of time, why...they might be forced to pass ANOTHER resolution!!
170 posted on 03/15/2003 3:17:26 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: cake_crumb
NOT ANOTHER RESOLUTION!!! I did not think of that!What shall we do?? I know! Let's ask Teddy Kennedy! no... let's cross that bridge when we get to it!!
171 posted on 03/15/2003 3:22:02 PM PST by Phredd23
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To: TommyDale
You're right. America will never be taken militarily because of our right to own guns. Its idiotic to suggest it. I wish people would take notice that there are idiots like this out there who would suggest it and come to realize that our 2nd amendment rights are precious.
172 posted on 03/15/2003 3:24:14 PM PST by virgil
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To: longtermmemmory
One might suppose that should the UN decide to "invade" that these professors could be summarily disposed of by the militia?
173 posted on 03/15/2003 3:28:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: virgil
In Texas there are probably 20 million firearms alone...and we still teach our children how to shoot here. It is said that the Soviets felt they could never take Texas and Alabama. We are very proud of that.
174 posted on 03/15/2003 3:33:55 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: longtermmemmory
Bwahahahahahaahahahaha. What are they going to invade us with? The RCMP? The UN and their allies have already sent 8 million unarmed Mexicans in to invade us and that's all of their reserves too I'm sure. I'm soooo scared. Yup, that Greenpeace and Swiss navy scares me too.
175 posted on 03/15/2003 3:34:02 PM PST by Beck_isright (going to the war without the french is like duck hunting without your accordian)
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To: skinkinthegrass
FAL?

Yep. The Austrian StG-58 variant.

176 posted on 03/15/2003 3:40:25 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: Phredd23
The mere thought of the dreaded 'UN resolution' ploy just has me shaking in my socks! The left seems to be crossing bridges about as well as Teddy does....pattern?
177 posted on 03/15/2003 3:40:25 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: longtermmemmory
He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

I wonder if they were required to do this one sided research as part of their grade?

I know that some of our "academia" types are sane, fair and balanced but why aren't they (the 1.3% of them) allowed to present a pro America view using government funds just like the 98.7% of leftists in academia are doing?

178 posted on 03/15/2003 3:46:38 PM PST by zip (I love being right)
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To: Husker24
Hey! I knew an old guy that invaded Greenland during WWII. He was in the Coast Guard.

"Attacked" the stranded and starving Germans operating the radio listening post. Brought them back to Portsmouth, NH Naval Prison.

Any way, is the UN bulding in range of USCG fireboats? Just start pelting it and the people with water. Maybe we can wash the stain out of NY and the country.

Just an idea.

179 posted on 03/15/2003 4:13:52 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: jlogajan
Could the U.N. use military force

Only if we pay. -- keep your check book handy!
180 posted on 03/15/2003 4:29:46 PM PST by Eternally-Optimistic
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