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The UN shows the same irrelevance the League of Nations did.

US foots a quarter of the bill for that U.N. paper tiger, international debating society. In return we lose our liberty by bogus agreements, and get hundreds of ill-behaved, 3rd world diplomats and communist/socialist political activists over here instigating problems.

Can anyone imagine the current arrangement with Bill Clinton as U.N. secretary-general? Where could we all go?

Ron Paul: Get out!

Dick Armey: Either US or UN!

Jack Kingston: Dictators are running the UN.

Clearly, it's time to get out.

1 posted on 03/15/2003 10:24:18 AM PST by forest
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To: forest
As long as the UN exists, we have to be on the inside to exert influence and have a say-so. Same thing with unions, academia, the bureaucracy, etc. Right Flight is wishful and dangerous thinking.
2 posted on 03/15/2003 10:29:08 AM PST by Consort
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3 posted on 03/15/2003 10:31:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Don't just sit there, use the links on the Graphic Teaser.)
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To: forest
The rotten apple in the barrel.

The cancer in the body.

Get rid of it.
4 posted on 03/15/2003 10:31:56 AM PST by xzins (Babylon, you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting!)
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To: forest
As much as we like to think the UN is irrelevant, you should know that many many schools across the country have UN clubs, send students to the model UN (and not the model Congress) and are brainwashing the kids to think they are global citizens and the US should be subservient to the UN.

The UN defenders in my county literally froth at the mouth and viciously attack if a loyal US citizen speaks out against the UN and the atrocities it has committed.
5 posted on 03/15/2003 10:33:04 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: forest
"The United States foots a quarter of the bill for that U.N paper tiger,"

That's pretty darn close to what I heard on FOX the other day...22% out of what, 187 countries?

I was also surprised to learn that the UN has it's own pension fund for it's members, along with all the other perks! I'm gonna BARF!

8 posted on 03/15/2003 10:52:23 AM PST by IamHD
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To: forest
GET THE US OUT OF THE UN; AND THE UN OUT OF THE US!

John Birch Society!!

Someone ping the tinfoil-hat crowd so they can post their "funny" pictures, and post their "clever," "witty" comments about the conspiracy theories. Hurry--ping them before the words "New World Order" are mentioned.....

15 posted on 03/15/2003 11:07:11 AM PST by Ff--150 (Oh LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity!)
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To: forest
Get the U.N. out of the USA.

After we're done in Afghanistan, we should relocate all the survivors into temporary housing and then rebuild the flatland into a new modern city. This city should be named United Nations City and become the new home of the United Nations. Then the UN can relocate out of New York City and into a region that is centrally located between Europe, Asia, and Africa, in the heart of an historically troubled region.

Either do away with Afghanistan completely and divide the land amongst the bordering countries, or create a new international United Nations zone that is independent of any nation and occupies the former Afghanistan. Either way, the UN moves out of New York City. Then turn the old United Nations building into either a World Trade Center annex (ot even has dock facilities) or low-income housing.

Think of jobs for the people of Afghanistan. They can learn the construction business like Bin Laden did, or they can learn service-related skills to support the new businesses that will emerge. Bringing the UN to that region will offer a wealth of possibilities to the locals, as well as create a new "World Diplomatic Center" that is more easily accessible accessible to many people.

And as an added benefit, would Bill Clinton still want to be Secretary General if the UN were relocated to Kabul?

-PJ

17 posted on 03/15/2003 11:15:58 AM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: forest
The UN is UNamerican. I hate it. I see it as a looming noose around everyones neck, someday. Send it to Brussels, so that the EU crowd can feel like they make a difference.
20 posted on 03/15/2003 11:38:04 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003
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26 posted on 03/15/2003 1:18:04 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: forest
Here's the answer:

www.getusout.org
31 posted on 03/15/2003 2:07:11 PM PST by Martus
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To: forest
I'll bump this thread till my last breathe but it will never happen.
33 posted on 03/15/2003 4:30:12 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: forest
"Every child is our child."
-- Motto of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF).

"To achieve One World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, their loyalty to family traditions and national identification."
Brock Chisolm, when director of UN World Health Organisation

1948 -- UNESCO president and Fabian Socialist, Sir Julian Huxley, calls for a radical eugenic policy in UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy. He states: "Thus, even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy of controlled human breeding will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable."

• "In order to stabilize world population, it is necessary to eliminate 350,000 people a day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." - Oceanographer Jaques Cousteau Published in the Courier, a publication of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)

Bush Says YES to UNESCO
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/19/153742.shtml

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The UN has always chosen socialist one-worlders for leaders. The Secretary-General at the UN founding conference was Soviet spy Alger Hiss. He was followed as Secretary-General by Norwegian socialist Trygve Lie, Swedish socialist Dag Hammarskjold, Burmese Marxist U Thant, Austrian former Nazi Kurt Waldheim, Peruvian socialist Javier Perez deCuellar, and Egyptian socialist Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Each has consistently used the full resources of the UN to promote Communist and socialist causes around the world. The Socialist International (which proudly traces its origins to the First International headed by Karl Marx) today claims tens of millions of members in 54 countries. At its 1962 Congress, it declared: "The ultimate objective of the parties of the Socialist International is nothing less than world government ... Membership of the United Nations must be made universal ..." Almost all of the UN's "independent" commissions for the last thirty years have been headed by members of the Socialist International.

Dueling Vetoes

John L. Perry
Tuesday, Feb. 18, 2003

"Veto" is Latin for "I forbid."

Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States each may forbid any United Nations action. Now, countervailing vetoes loom.That is another way of saying the United Nations is at long last well on its way to the ash heap of history.Which is another way of saying all of this is good news, not calamity, for the United States, for the entire Free World and for those peoples struggling under the yokes of dictatorships to become members of the Free World.

Enforce or Ignore?The present veto issue is over whether the U.N. Security Council will adopt yet another resolution - requiring once and for all time Iraq's forthwith compliance with a long string of 17 previous resolutions - demanding full disclosure and destruction of weapons of mass destruction.As it is now shaping up, the United States, in close cooperation with the United Kingdom, is expected to sponsor such a resolution within the 15-member Security Council, whose five permanent members enjoy the power of veto.One of those five, France, with the connivance of non-veto-toting Germany, is poised to sponsor a resolution aimed at preventing just such a compliance resolution. Those two will have the support of recently communist Russia and currently communist China, both of which have veto power.

Greed and AggrandizementThey are that determined, for their own reasons of selfish economic and political enhancement, to keep the regime of Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq.A historic collision is about to occur. Consider the implications:

If the Security Council takes up the U.S.-U.K. resolution first, the factotums of France and Germany - with those of Russia and China dog-trotting alongside - are confronted with three options:
(a) Go along with a "yes" vote, which would cause them to have to execute a hairpin reversal of course with all the attendant embarrassing consequences domestically and internationally;
(b) Abstain, which would cost them equivalent humiliation at home and elsewhere, since even the bumfuzzled value a certain degree of constancy in their leadership, or
(c) Veto the U.S.-U.K. resolution, which would place them irreconcilably at odds with America and its allies, who far outnumber them.

On the other hand, if the French and Germans are the first to offer their resolution, which would litter the Iraqi landscape with U.N. "inspections" bureaucracies and dot the sky over Iraq with French and Russian "surveillance" aircraft, here are the options confronting the United States and the United Kingdom:
(a) President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair could approve its adoption, about as likely as either one resigning from office, which is what a complete reversal of their positions would honorably call for;
(b) Abstain, a posture leaving those two as emasculated impotents adrift on the world scene, at the whim of the likes of France, Germany, Russia, China, Syria and on and on, or
(c) Exercise the veto, which would cut the American alliance free of the baleful influence of Old Europe, but also thrust it face to face with the loonies of radical Islam and the always-sinister and rapidly developing People's Republic of China - an inevitable confrontation incalculably more expensive later on.

Those consequences range far beyond the immediate issue of how to treat with Iraq's malevolent tyrant. They will cast the mold for the reconfiguration of economic relationships, political alignments and military deployments of world powers for decades to come.This a most-sobering reality. Either way the cat jumps, it constitutes nothing less than the most fundamental upheaval since the onset of the Cold War in the wake of World War II.Nothing like this has come along since the now-defunct Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin gambled on possible nuclear annihilation to subjugate the United States and all it represents.

The Threat Was Well Known
That came at a time when the United States was victorious in World War II and there was widespread appreciation among the American people of the mortal danger the Soviet Union represented.The greatest peril implicit in this present crisis - which neatly fits the Japanese dual ideogram for danger combined with opportunity - is that millions of Americans still don't get it.Much of that disconnect from reality can be laid at the door of American elitist, leftist mass communications and eight years of unethical leadership and neglect by the Clinton administration that those media so gleefully celebrated - and now so vengefully mourn.

Blind Self-AbsorptionA staggering number of Americans remain, even post-Sept. 11, in a combination state of denial of the horrific danger pressing upon them and smug preoccupation with personal pleasures and distractions.That is many times more unsettling than whether the latest surveys of opinions purport to show that most of the rest of the world's population is not on America's side in this time of peril.The courageous leadership of Bush and Blair, who have not allowed opinion polls to blind their perception of their duty, will go down in history alongside that of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill.

Train Wreck AheadSo what happens if, as seems likely, the two headlong opposing resolutions work their way up to a vote in the Security Council after every other U.N. member state has been given face time on world television to do its posturing?Despite strenuous efforts now being made to mush together some sort of face-saving compromise resolution, it seems humanly impossible that, in the end, the two opposing camps can avoid having to split. Each side has gone too far to double back on itself.As Bush has promised, should the Security Council chicken out on its responsibility, the United States will lead a Coalition of the Willing - impressive in number and strength - to liberate the people of Iraq and destroy Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.

Taking the Time to Ramp UpAny passage of days between now and then will be occasioned not by the grant of more time for U.N. inspectors but by the arrival on station of that fourth U.S. carrier battle group and the ominous thud of the final platoon's boots hitting the ground.At that point, there goes the United Nations. Why is that?The answer lies in the history behind the founding of the United Nations as World War II was coming to a close.That awful conflict was won by the wartime unity of the Big Three - as Britain, the Soviet Union and the United States were known then. The concept was that post-war peace could be maintained only if the Big Three remained in effective unanimity.

Antiquated VetoThe veto was grafted into the U.N. Charter to make that _expression of Big Three unity possible, by ensuring the impotence of the United Nations if any one of the Big Three was willing to precipitate its collapse through exercise of the veto.That made sense only if Big Three unity persisted, which of course it didn't. Even before World War II ended, even before the United Nations came into being, Big Three unity was falling apart.In actuality, the United Nations as an effective instrument of international cooperation and peacekeeping was stillborn.
Disunited From the Get-GoWhat did emerge and has hung on by a thread ever since is not a United Nations, but a hopelessly Disunited Nations - as illustrated by the numerous vetoes cast by the Soviet Union.An effective, relevant United Nations has been flat-line brain-dead these nearly 60 years, and what the world is now witnessing are the terminal twitchings of its prolonged state of artificially suspended animation.The very idea of the United States, or any country, thinking it had to go to such a United Nations with hat in hand and obtain approval to do what has to be done to protect its own people's vital national interests has been a dirty joke all these long years.So now, in the impending Shootout at the East River Glass Corral, two principals on the misnamed Security Council are about to fire veto bullets at each other. The current world economic, political and military realities are such that America and its allies will win that duel.

A Demise to CelebrateThe United States and the United Kingdom will walk away. France and Germany will not perish, although they will be grievously wounded, lingering as cripples for generations.But lying lifeless on New York's East Side, in form as well as in substance, will be what once had the presumption to call itself the United Nations.No need for grieving over that. The Free World will be the better for it.


John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents

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34 posted on 03/15/2003 6:41:42 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: forest
Get out of the UN bump!
36 posted on 03/15/2003 7:50:19 PM PST by dalebert
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To: forest
But don't we need the UN to ensure global peace? Only the United Nations can give us world peace
37 posted on 03/15/2003 7:58:50 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining (Bomb Iraq)
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BuMp
41 posted on 03/15/2003 8:52:03 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; Militiaman7; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; ...
The United States foots a quarter of the bill for that U.N paper tiger, international debating society and what do the American people get in return? We get a derogation of our liberty through bogus agreements, the right to host hundreds of ill-behaved diplomats from third- world countries and a system that allows hundreds of communist and socialist political activists into our country to instigate problems we do not need.

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

46 posted on 03/16/2003 3:10:41 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: forest
Birchers have been calling for the U.S. to get out of the UN for a long time. I guess nobody was listening.
47 posted on 03/16/2003 3:23:49 AM PST by rambo316
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To: forest
I posted this on another thread. Reposted for information.

Let's see. There are 191 member states in the United Nations and it was chartered in 1945. That's 58 years on American soil. If they each took a turn hosting the morans, it would return to the US in about 11,078 years. Now that seems fair.

We could also improve our spy network with the rotation.
50 posted on 03/16/2003 5:31:10 AM PST by Pit1
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