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One Vote Away From 2nd Resolution
CNN | Wednesday, March 12, 2003 Posted: 9:42 AM EST (1442 GMT)

Posted on 03/12/2003 6:59:49 AM PST by maquiladora

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration believes that it is one vote shy of having nine of 15 votes needed on a U.N. Security Council resolution that sets a Monday deadline for Iraqi compliance, a senior U.S. State Department official said, and officials are focusing diplomatic energies on Mexico and Chile.

President Bush has spent much of the last week on the telephone, lobbying council members to support the resolution.

"Bush and [British Prime Minister Tony] Blair are attempting to do whatever it takes to get the Latins to commit," the official told CNN's Andrea Koppel.

Blair told members of the House of Commons on Wednesday that the council was considering a series of benchmarks that Iraq would have to meet to prove it was disarming -- a step that Chile and Mexico previously suggested.

The State Department official also said the United States is confident it has the support of the three African members of the Security Council -- Cameroon, Guinea and Angola -- despite a visit this week by French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin to secure their opposition to the resolution.

In addition, U.S. and Pakistani officials said Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf can be counted on for his support when a vote happens this week.

That leaves Mexico and Chile as holdouts, the State Department official said. To secure these votes, the United States, Great Britain and Spain have teamed up to work all the angles. On Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell held a three-way conference call with his allied counterparts as they coordinated strategies.

Nevertheless, Russia and France have threatened to veto the resolution. Nine council votes are needed to pass the resolution, but a veto by any of the five permanent members would defeat it. Britain, France, Russia, China and the United States are permanent members.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; un
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To: maquiladora
They gonna count HANGING CHADS
61 posted on 03/12/2003 7:37:55 AM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: Dog
I know! US demanding the vote on Thursday but it may be Friday or . . .

That date slips past Thursday and President Bush needs to stand up and say -- IT'S OVER! No more negotiation!
62 posted on 03/12/2003 7:42:20 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: Tamsey
Prime Minister KOIZUMI from Japan is working behind the scenes, hard and fast, with foreign minister Kawaguchi, to extert maximum pressure on Mexico City.

I believe they are threatening them with a reduction in Japanese financial assistance.

63 posted on 03/12/2003 7:43:14 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Easy to UNDERRATE N.Korea: Idiotic leader, starving people. BUT DON'T! They could attack in a flash.)
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To: SierraWasp
A friend of mine has guinea pigs. She calls them "pigs".
64 posted on 03/12/2003 7:45:09 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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To: uncbob
No, no, no, Chad is not on the Security Council!
65 posted on 03/12/2003 7:45:33 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: maquiladora
With all due respect, maq, March 17 was never OFF. This war will not begin until US forces are in place. They aren't all in place yet. Might not be until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.
66 posted on 03/12/2003 7:46:19 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: js1138
At the risk of sounding cruel, is he getting a stiffer spine installed? One that doesn't collapse whenever French is spoken?
67 posted on 03/12/2003 7:48:33 AM PST by Texan5
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Well, I believe that by Thursday we will be ready. If we were waiting for all forces en route to be in place we'd be waiting several more weeks for the Nimitz to get to the Gulf. A lot of forces will just be rotating or involved in the post-war phases, but the key elements are ready I believe.
68 posted on 03/12/2003 7:51:40 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: Ingtar
I think it would destroy the UN more quickly to get 9 or 10 yes votes, and a French veto.

It might not destroy the U.N., but it definitely will end France's delusions of grandeur.

The only think that might be better is if France actually caved at the end. The short term humiliation for France would be excruciating. They might do that anyway because at least it would preserve the only thing (their U.N. veto) that gives France any weight on the international stage.

69 posted on 03/12/2003 7:52:14 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: maquiladora
There is a big "if" on the accuracy of this report -- because Britain is not acting like this is the case at all. Britain is still trying to extend the time a few days.

If it were down to just getting one of two (Chile or Mexico) that would not be such a high hurdle that Britain would still be attempting such significant compromises as setting out "benchmarks" (some of the benchmarks they are proposing are so ludicrous that it is breathtaking -- Saddam coming on TV to say that he will get rid of all WMD -- please. What purpose would a stupid and pointless stunt like that have?).

Blair has gone wacky, fearing that his position is endangered. If he keeps going on like this he's going to morph into another euro-socialist right before our eyes. I doubt he'd be so wacky if we were just down to convincing either Chile or Mexico.

70 posted on 03/12/2003 7:52:47 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
What? Blair is a euro-socialist!

Take a look at his record/opinions on issues other than Iraq and you'll see.

As for the accuracy of this report, well, it's quite fresh, only broke about an hour or so ago, whereas the talk of a deadline extension has been something that was talked about and discussed over the past few days.

71 posted on 03/12/2003 8:01:32 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
The first benchmark is just silly beyond all imagination. But the real problem with "benchmarks" is that meeting these benchmarks is a matter of interpretation (as is everything in the U.N.) and potentially a matter of yet another vote to decide which interpretation to accept.

If the U.N. adopts "benchmarks", then it must also adopt a means of determining whether they are met or not, or whether being "partially met" means that maybe a little more time might allow them to be better met.

Benchmarks are no different in the U.N. than further resolutions or inspection reports -- it's all left to the interpretation of the body.

Because that is the U.N. process -- the whole point of its being (in its own eyes) anyway: to prevent war through negotiation.

Benchmarks are just another hurdle for the U.S. to pass, they are not a hurdle meant to trip Saddam, they are designed to give more room for manuever to those opposing attacking Iraq.

This needs to come out of the U.N. process -- not be immersed deeper in it. That is what is so encouraging about Bush's speech setting out an ultimatum directly from him to Saddam -- it takes the whole issue out of the U.N. process.

72 posted on 03/12/2003 8:03:35 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Wow! Dig THIS:

"Japan ups diplomatic pressure on Mexico to support US-backed war resolution Tuesday,March11,2003,12:13 PM Tokyo-AP -- Japan is pressuring Mexico to back a U-S resolution in the U-N Security Council.

Japan's prime minister is urging Mexican President Vicente Fox to adopt a March 17th ultimatum for Iraq to disarm or face war. He says international divisions put the U-N's authority at stake. Japan is not currently a member of the Security Council, but is joining the intense lobbying behind the scenes. The Asian nation declared its support for the resolution on Saturday. In the past 24 hours, phone calls went out from Tokyo to undecided Pakistan, Chile, Mexico, Guinea and Cameroon."

73 posted on 03/12/2003 8:05:10 AM PST by LiberalsWorstNightmare (currently picking the chunks of puke out from between my computer keyboard's keys....)
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To: Galtoid
I am beginning to lose faith in my president with each tick of the clock.

Wimp. Fair-weather fan. Get your chin up!

74 posted on 03/12/2003 8:05:15 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: maquiladora
Bush and [British Prime Minister Tony] Blair are attempting to do whatever it takes to get the Latins to commit,"

I have an off-topic, but serious question -

How did Spanish-speaking people get the name “latins”?

75 posted on 03/12/2003 8:05:33 AM PST by dead
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To: maquiladora
I hope that Powell concentrates on Chile instead of Mexico. I am sick and tired of Fox's extortion attempts.
76 posted on 03/12/2003 8:06:18 AM PST by Eva
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To: dead
From "Latin America".
77 posted on 03/12/2003 8:07:18 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
I see NO need for ANOTHER resolution. It's time for war. If they proceed with another resolution then BOYCOTT all those who vetoed this latest one.
78 posted on 03/12/2003 8:07:21 AM PST by nmh
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To: dead
The Spanish language is based off Latin...that'd be my only guess at it...
79 posted on 03/12/2003 8:08:39 AM PST by Severa (Wife of Freeper Hostel, USN Active Duty Submariner)
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To: kaylar
They want to destroy the UN as it is today, and most especially the existence of a SC and veto capacity.

No. It was a French power play - and they are going to lose.

80 posted on 03/12/2003 8:08:49 AM PST by cinFLA
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