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Serbian Prime Minister Assassinated
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Posted on 03/12/2003 5:16:46 AM PST by William McKinley

That is it so far.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; politics; serbia; zorandjindjic
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To: branicap
The Slobo signing the cease-fire and withdrawal from Kosovo is my guess.
221 posted on 03/12/2003 5:16:41 PM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: branicap
Thank you for your observations. I do not know much about the current situation in Serbia; I have studied WWI, so I have read a bit about Mr. Princip, and his unwitting role in starting the Great War. I see a lot of parallels between the anarchists of the early 20th century, and the anarchists of the early 21st century.

I hope that there can be some kind of representative government in Serbia, though.

222 posted on 03/12/2003 5:20:46 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
correction. Princip's action did not spark WW1. That is the most erronious mistake in modern history, that a Serb began WW1. I even have read a Serb started WW2 believe that or not.
223 posted on 03/12/2003 5:39:10 PM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: smokegenerator
No Smoke,not at all!You should refresh your history:

On the 29th of May 1903 Serbian King Milan(or was it Mihailo) Obrenovich and his wife Draga Mashin were killed,butchered by officer`s sabres,and thrown through the window of their Royal Residence!That was the end of the Obrenovich Dinasty!

This year is the 100 th Universary of that ghastly act.

That is what Seselj meant!

224 posted on 03/12/2003 5:43:06 PM PST by branicap (Branicapici)
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To: branicap
You learn something or refreshed everyday! Hvala, brate! The year is not over with yet, as they say, tragedy happens in 3's.
225 posted on 03/12/2003 5:45:52 PM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: B Knotts; smokegenerator
Folks,let`s not go into WWI ,please!Not on this thread.The omly simmilarity between these two events is that important person got killed.Everything else is different.
226 posted on 03/12/2003 5:47:34 PM PST by branicap (Branicapici)
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To: branicap
Go to the head of the class bright boy.

You guys really know how to deal with your traitors.
227 posted on 03/12/2003 5:50:12 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: lavrenti; smokegenerator
Serbs must have had a good role models,Lavrenti!

There were only two countries in Europe that had commited Regicide in the 20th century.Serbia is one...which is the other???

228 posted on 03/12/2003 6:02:29 PM PST by branicap (Beria a relative?)
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To: branicap
Let me guess. The Russians, right?
229 posted on 03/12/2003 7:27:24 PM PST by bob808
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To: bob808
Right!

They shoot dead the whole Romanov family in 1917 and burried them at the undisclosed place deep in Russian forests!

They found a grave,allegedly,a few years ago!

But,that`s another subject.

230 posted on 03/12/2003 7:51:50 PM PST by branicap (Beria a relative?)
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To: William McKinley
Here's a bot of background on Djindic the extreme Marxist

......Before entering the realm of politics, Djindjic was involved with another sort of gangsterism: he was a Marxist ideologue, a devotee of the Frankfurt School of Theodor Adorno, and left Yugoslavia to study under Jurgen Habermas in Germany.

There he hung out on the fringes of the Baader-Meinhoff gang and boogied with the Red Army Fraction. Perhaps he ran into Joschka Fischer, that street-fighting Red who later rose to become Germany's Foreign Minister.

Djindjic's 1979 doctoral thesis,"Marx's Critical Theory of Society and the Problem of Foundation," posits an epistemological basis for Marx's theory that a crisis must be generated before the capitalist order is destroyed and socialism emerges triumphant.

link(s).......http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0107/0622.html

Djindic was never Pro-western in the FR meaning of the word

231 posted on 03/12/2003 7:53:45 PM PST by vooch
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To: smokegenerator; Tamodaleko
Just checking somethi Vidim im 29.maj
232 posted on 03/12/2003 7:58:20 PM PST by branicap (Please,make it work!!)
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To: branicap
It didn`t work!I`m an idiot,I can`t create a link!
233 posted on 03/12/2003 7:59:59 PM PST by branicap (Please,make it work!!)
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To: bob808; smokegenerator; Tamodaleko; joan; vooch; kosta50
Imate li poruku i za ljude na vlasti?

Dolazi im crni èetvrtak, približava se 29. maj, stogodišnjica ubistva Kralja Aleksandra Obrenoviæa i Kraljice Drage Mašin, i likvidiranje cele dvorske kamarile.

To je neko upozorenje ili...

Recimo da sam prilièno vidovit èovek.

"Do you have any message for the authorities?

The Black Thursday is coming,29th of May is geting closer,Centenary of the murder of King Aleksandar Obrenovich and Queen Draga Mashin,and liqiudation of the whole Court camarilla....

That`s some kind of warning or....

Let`s just say that I am clairvoyant man..."

Vojislav Seselj,last interview given to the "Srpska Rec"(Serbian Word) weekly!

234 posted on 03/12/2003 8:22:00 PM PST by branicap (Please,make it work!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
He was apparently whacked by the old secret police.
235 posted on 03/12/2003 9:08:40 PM PST by Sparta (I like RINO hunting)
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To: branicap; B Knotts; smokegenerator; joan; DTA; FireWall; vooch; Kate22; Destro; Tamodaleko; ...
Let me reiterate that the events of today in Belgrade are in line with Serbia's political tradition more than the imagianry tradition in democracy. Since 1804, except for one (Peter I), all Serbian leaders, kings or presidents, have been (a) either killed or (b) forcibly removed and/or exiled. This is sad but true.

I do not share your optimism, Brane, that this is a new beginning for Serbia. I base my disagreement on these 'traditional' facts.

One can only speculate which of the many enemies Djindjich had actually pulled this off. According to Vechernye novosti, a Serbian daily, the type of weapon used, the calibre chosen, and the precise execution of the assassination betrays a well organized plan.

For those of you who never heard of the number 1 man in the "Zemun Clan," the so-called Legiya, he used to be a police chief of the so-called "red berets." He used to work for Djindjich until he fell out of grace.

Let's not forget that Djindjich was about to replace the Miloshevich-era general staff, which former Yugoslav president Voyislav Koshtunitsa kept as a counter-weight and a security blanket in his strife with Djindjich.

Djindjich exploited the stupid parliamentary system to get the top executive position without ever being elected. His popularity was usually in single percent points.

Djindjich was accused of having mafia connections many times before. Recently, he has changed his tune from being "pro-Western" to encroaching Miloshevich in his political nationalism, using nationalism as a political vehicle.

Personally, I don't think he deserved what he got, but I think Serbia is better off without him. His tenure was full of disappointments -- driving economy for bad to worse, control of media, even being accused of running things like Miloshevich did.

He made an unforgivable error by turning Miloshevich over to the Hague. He was accused to be doing anything to kep himself in power, just as Miloshevich has.

One more important note: Serbian government, dominated by Djindjich supporters, and his appointed acting Serbian President, Natasha Michich, requested and decreed the State of Emergency in Serbia. The measure suspends civil and political rights, the details of which can be found in Serbia's constitution and the Law on Measures In Case of Eemergency Situations (Paragraph 83.8. and para. 1 and 5 respectfully;the latter being referenced in Official Bulletin of the republic of Serbia, number 19/91).

These measures include, but are not limited to, prohibition of political activities, labor strikes, curtailment of the free press, etc. They authorize police and other organs of the state with additional scope of jurisdiction, including entering private premises without a court order, etc. In other words it is a legalized police state.

In doing so, Serbian sources have made it clear that these measures are to stay in effect until the perpetrators of Djindjich's murder are caught and brought to justice. Given the record of solving similar crimes and the judicial system there, one can safely assume that Emergency Measures will be in effect for a long, long time -- unless the government is somehow forced to resign or is forcibly removed with a replay of October 2000

236 posted on 03/12/2003 9:34:33 PM PST by kosta50
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To: kosta50
HOW THE SAS WAS GOING TO ASSASSINATE MILOSEVIC (Did SAS hit squad take out Serbia's Zoran Djindjic?)
237 posted on 03/12/2003 9:40:22 PM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: kosta50
I wonder when Serbia will pass Albania as the country with the lowest per capita income in Europe? That seems to be its goal.
238 posted on 03/12/2003 9:40:38 PM PST by Torie
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To: kosta50; joan; smokegenerator; Tamodaleko; bob808; vooch; Destro
Kosta,where did I show any optimism???

I said "turning point for Serbia"...for the worse,I`m afraid!

The fate of Zoran Djindjich is a typical example of the old axiom:"Beware of what you wish!You might get more than you`ve bargained for!"

Djindjich did,with fatal consequences!

In the line with my previous posts:Djindjich had made a Faustian bargain with Devil few days before 5th of October.I was just watching,again,a documentary about that event:"Djindjich is asking his wife:Should I go to the meeting with Legiya or not?And ,her reply was:He can kill you tonight or any other day so,why not!Go."Djindjich had,allegedly,struck a deal with Legiya and his Red Berets,not to use force against demonstrators.But,lately,some other details became public which contradict that story!Legiya backed off ONLY because,during the day,he couldn`t get a reinforcements and because somebody had told him that some army units would oppose him!He and his boys would loose.

Djindjich had made very bad mistake:he believed that he "belonged" to the group!And,he left almost whole Slobo`s team in police,State Security intact!He ,as a Prime Minister, was loughing during the trial of four Red Berets members accused for the assassination of four members of SPO and attempted murder of Vuk Draskovich.In any civilised country the whole IV Departement of the State Security (survelliance) would be arrested on the spot.Djindjich had done nothing,he continued to evesdrop on Draskovich and tried to do the same to Kostunitsa!

But,in the other hand,Djindjich had put himself between the rock and a hard place:the moment he sold Milosevich to Hague,he was doomed!Hague demanded more and more,and more....remember the rebellion of the Red Berets last year?

Seselj was well informed:he said that 30-40 more indictements are in the bag,and,this time,the top people from State Security are on the list!Legiya is just a thug,a small criminal from Belgrade who had to run away and join the Foreign Legion in order not to go to prison in 1986-87.Just like his comrade de guere,Ante Gotovina from Croatia!

Red Berets are a private enterprise,responsible to no one but to themselfs and their bosses!And,they will not go to Hague or to Serbian courts,God forbid.Without a blood shed.

Djindjich was stupid,he wasn`t an old vily fox like Yeltsin.In august 91 Gorbachov was deposed and people of Russia were on the streets of Moscow.One unit of the KGB infamous Group "Alfa" was ordered to break up demonstrations and storm the White house.Their comander made a plan"Tanks will go first through and over demonstrators;Alfa will follow and...But,they decided to do some recconisance and,decided that there were to many people and that casualities would be horrendous!So,they decided against the action!Yeltsin was safe,the rest is history!

But,immediately after coming to power,Yeltsin went to visit "Alfa" qand than them for being "True Russian patriots and democrats"....And,within a few days,he disbanded the unit,turned some of them into bodyguards,and sack majority of them!Clever man.Djindjich left them intact,to became even more brazen and untouchable!

I believe that Djindjich is a colateral damage of the brutal Western policy against Serbia.It is beyond belief thast some people in the West thought that some people,so deeply involved in organized crime and state politics,and so well armed and with so much to lose,will go peacefully to jail???

In the last ten years more than 50 more or less important people were killed and their murderers were never found.Including Serbian Police Chief,previous Serbian Presdident Stambolich,they missed Draskovich(twice),....Legiya and his unit were directly involved in Stambolich and Draskovich case!

Now,Djindjich can discuss his failures with Ivan Stambolich,somewhere in "heavenly kingdom" where Serbs,usually ,go...

Djindjich is not the last,this is the beggining!

239 posted on 03/12/2003 10:59:24 PM PST by branicap
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To: branicap
I lean towards your positive outlook. Since 2000, the political system in Serbia has been significantly weighed in Dj's favour, despite the success of Kostunica's party in recent elections. My prediction is that there will be a major re-alignment of parties, with the number (30+?) dropping to around a dozen or so. I don't expect Micic to last long in her job either. Still, it's going to be very messy and we'll see some unusual partnerings. The downside to this is instability, the upside is that the West will have to tread carefully, as stupid public statements will only lead to more support, percieved or real, for politicians who do not necessarily want to wholly ape Western European ideals or those pesky 'nationalists'.

If I were to start playing Fantasy Cabinet, I'd have Avramovic as a short to medium term solution for economics minister...

VRN

240 posted on 03/13/2003 12:43:42 AM PST by Voronin (NATO is dead. Stuff it and mount it as proof.)
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