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The Savage Nation Debut Program (5:00 EST) Live Thread
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Posted on 03/08/2003 12:02:51 PM PST by dersepp

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To: Mr. Mojo
Yup. And he needs to stop wagging his finger at us. He is also very hard to look at. As someone said, he has a face for radio.
161 posted on 03/08/2003 2:57:24 PM PST by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Eastbound
Agree. I like the fact that he has the guts to say what he does. Don't care where, radio or TV. It's stuff that needs saying 24/7 until the fools realize we are in serious danger here.
162 posted on 03/08/2003 2:57:42 PM PST by BBT
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To: dersepp
First impressions...(without reading anything that follows)

MSNBC is such a crappy channel. Low budget all the way. About the only good thing about them is that they split the ratings with CNN, allowing FoxNews to be number one.

Any network that would give a show to Phil Donahue is a waste of time. But I did tune in out of curiosity, being it was Savage's first show.

The set is dreadful. The show is basically Savage's radio show with video. I really have no desire to see a radio show on TV. I'd rather just listen to the radio while doing other things.

Personally, I think the show sucks, as does MSNBC as a whole. This is not a slam against Savage. I like the Savage radio show. But MSNBC is clearly not putting very much into this production.

163 posted on 03/08/2003 2:58:47 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
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To: spectre
Remember Rush Limbaugh? His TV show was a flop

It was?

That's not how I remember it.

My recollection is that Rush was on broadcast TV, not cable. His show was relegated to the overnight hours, and in those hours, in most or all markets, I believe he generally had ratings that greatly exceeded his competition and anything before or after that ran overnight. (And I don't think the rating knew how to account for folks like me who taped the show and watched it the next day.)

I'm not one of those who thinks Rush walks on water, but suggesting that his TV show was a failure, in the same terms as say Jerry Rivers' latest effort, is unfair. It's is probably true that it didn't provide an avenue to bigger and better things for Rush, which is what he was probably looking for. But it wasn't a failure.

ML/NJ

164 posted on 03/08/2003 2:59:14 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: spectre
Without Rush's TV show, the video of Slick coming out of Ron Brown's funeral would have never seen the light of day.
Slick came out joking and laughing and, when he spotted some TV cameras, started crying.
165 posted on 03/08/2003 3:00:04 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: spectre
Actually, he didn't do too badly. The MESSAGE is what we need to be getting out and he does a nice job at reminding America just how NUTS the Leftist Extremists really are. The video clips of the murdered Kurds must be terribly hard for the left to see tho...Saddams's such a likeable fellow don't you know??

GRRRRRRollin'
166 posted on 03/08/2003 3:00:19 PM PST by GRRRRR (Scuse me Mr. DaisyCutter, did you drop something??)
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To: Roni Dowd
Totally agree. I've never heard Savage before. I listen mornings to either Rush, Dennis Prager or O'Reilly. I'm very impressed with Savage. I'll tune in again to this Saturday show.

Funny comment about the "Chef of the Future" bit though, that another poster mentioned. M.S. will iron that out. Probably just the 1st show jitters.

167 posted on 03/08/2003 3:00:34 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: SamAdams76
I agree that MSNBC did not do their best for him!

I am trying to remember that his show is reaching people who would never be exposed to him otherwise. That might make it worthwhile!!!
168 posted on 03/08/2003 3:01:10 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Abcdefg
Well, I didn't notice it being a setup call at all---not that those things don't happen, such as lieing to the screener, bad language, etc......but can't they say that on TV? Is turd a bad word? Seems I heard that on before. Maybe its not MSNBC-correct.
169 posted on 03/08/2003 3:01:28 PM PST by budman_2001
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To: ml/nj
Well, I say it was a "failure"..and considering the comments being made well in advance of Michael Savage's first TV appearance, and considering the slamming he took well into the first five minutes of his show, I feel more qualified to give my statement than the ones I've read against Savage on this thread.

Different strokes, is all...

170 posted on 03/08/2003 3:02:47 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Give him a chance, guys))
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To: budman_2001
I was not aware of a delay...but maybe there was something worse coming. I guess that with it being live...they took no chances!
171 posted on 03/08/2003 3:03:42 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: dersepp
Grr.. I can't believe I missed it. Did anyone manage to record it in MPEG or something? Any screennshots perhaps?

Will there be any repeats?
172 posted on 03/08/2003 3:04:08 PM PST by DMDTX
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To: budman_2001
"Is turd a bad word?"

Naw, turd is a good word. Are you for real?

173 posted on 03/08/2003 3:04:10 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: dersepp
Well, that sucked.  The show today was just radio with an annoying picture.
If this is how it is going to be, MSNBC has blown it again.


"Broadcast News" was running on Bravo channel at the same time.  It was
overwhelmingly more entertaining than Savage Nation.  My TIVO won't be
season-ticketing Michael's show.
174 posted on 03/08/2003 3:05:45 PM PST by gcruse (When choosing between two evils, pick the one you haven't tried yet.)
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To: GRRRRR
"Actually, he didn't do too badly".

Agree his show needs a little polish, but it's the message that he is getting out there, which is what we are looking for.

The hour went by very fast, didn't it?!

sw

175 posted on 03/08/2003 3:06:00 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Give him a chance, guys))
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To: 3D-JOY
I am trying to remember that his show is reaching people who would never be exposed to him otherwise. That might make it worthwhile!!!

True enough. I think Savage is an outstanding talk show host. But that's essentially what the TV show is - a radio talk show with video. If the show can deliver another few hundred thousand listeners (or more) to Savage's radio show, then it will be a worthwhile venture. I believe Rush Limbaugh captured a lot of lifetime listeners that way during his short-lived TV days.

Maybe even FoxNews will pick him up someday and do right by him.

176 posted on 03/08/2003 3:06:03 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
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To: Abcdefg
LOL! But someone can't say turd-world-nation on MSNBC? Go figure.
177 posted on 03/08/2003 3:06:37 PM PST by budman_2001
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To: gcruse
I guess it is a good thing you are already "on our side".

You may miss something that you had forgotten or never seen in "pictures".

178 posted on 03/08/2003 3:07:39 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: SamAdams76
Your comments are a perfect addition to mine!

Thank you.

I can't agree more about the addition of new listeners to his radio show. I am sure Rush was introduced to many people who were not "radio" people.
179 posted on 03/08/2003 3:10:34 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: spectre
Well, I say it was a "failure"..and considering the comments being made well in advance of Michael Savage's first TV appearance, and considering the slamming he took well into the first five minutes of his show, I feel more qualified to give my statement than the ones I've read against Savage on this thread.

Rush decided to quit the show.

Barring a significant format change, quitting will not be Savage's call.

It's too bad really, because I generally agree with him and I think that he is actually educated which is a rarity amongst the guys I can hear on the radio. (Grant is the only other one that comes to mind.) But this TV show sucks.

ML/NJ

180 posted on 03/08/2003 3:11:44 PM PST by ml/nj
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