[Keith]

it seems pretty certain now that this vote will fail...

my guess is that the Dems were told to say no on the first, and after that they were free to vote their conscience.

[San Jacinto]

No new converts, I guess. Only Nelson, Fl; Nelson, NB; Breaux,La; and Miller,Ga in favor.

I agree with you that others will come over on subsequent cloture votes IF the pressure builds at all. If the pressure fades, then it will be tough. Frist and the leadership will need to be very strong on this.