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"It was disconcerting to see how easy it was to buy this. It's outrageous that I can sell this," Hatch said.

It's outrageous that you have made an oath to protect and defend the Constitution Mister Hatch. Do you spit on the oath you have made everyday?

1 posted on 03/04/2003 4:06:09 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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2 posted on 03/04/2003 4:06:55 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Some Iowa legislators want to change the laws surrounding private gun sales, but some people say the bill threatens the Second Amendment and does nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

It will do nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Ever heard of a straw purchase? It is done all the time.

3 posted on 03/04/2003 4:09:29 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
A dealer who doesn't like private purchases? Why, how shocking! Still, there is no way he'd let the concept of personal gain cloud his zeal for individual freedoms or Constitutional rights...

...is there?

As for Jask Ass - I mean, Hatch - he was eleced by a part of Iowa that doesn't particularly like guns, so he will probably get a lot of kudos for this. After all the theatrics, I do hope he destroys or "legally disposes" of that gun he just bought, because he strikes me as the kind of man that doesn't really understand the concept of responsibility. I'm not suggesting he sell it from his trunk on the near North Side, but maybe Mr. Smith would like to broker some sort of deal-- for a reasonable fee, of course.

One question for both gentlemen: how many "trunkloads" of firearms - nice imagery - can someone legally sell in a given space of time before he is required to have an FFL? I know the answer, and I suspect they do too, but I don't see it mentioned... one can only speculate as to why.

4 posted on 03/04/2003 4:33:03 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
This serves two purposes for the govt bastards.

It is backdoor registration (via the 4473 form required to be filled out for any dealer transaction), and it raises revenue.

I say kill the bastards.(sarcasm)

5 posted on 03/04/2003 8:05:50 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Well, they can enact the law.

It's another thing entirely to actually enforce it.

If you and I decide that you want to buy my H&K and we meet in the parking lot of the shopping center to make the exchange (without waving the H&K around like a flag,) just exactly who is going to prevent the sale?

Who's even going to ask any questions?

Who's going to SEE the sale?

Granted, the gun dealer wants to maximize his revenues. But guys like him are EXACTLY like States such as Wisconsin and New York regarding tobacco taxes. The Internet (and cars) provide a good deal of flexibility in making purchases.

6 posted on 03/04/2003 8:43:38 AM PST by ninenot
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Nobody should ever buy a gun from Jack Smith again.
7 posted on 03/04/2003 8:47:24 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobin Mugatu, Zoolander)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
"You could take any parking lot in this city, fill your trunk with guns, and legally sell them, no questions asked. I do have a problem with that," Smith said

That's called a straw purchase. Translation - Make the buyers come to Smith...mo money.

As for that tosser Hatch, remember him election time.

8 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:17 AM PST by Dan from Michigan (Every man dies. Not every man really lives.)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
"You could take any parking lot in this city, fill your trunk with guns, and legally sell them, no questions asked. I do have a problem with that," Smith said.

Competition is a bitch.

10 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:55 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: All; biblewonk
Minnesota -- the state that gave us the likes of Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale and Paul Wellstone -- is considering and just might pass a shall-issue CCW bill.

Iowa -- which, in the meantime, had 30 consecutive years of Republican governors -- just reelected a liberal DemoCRAP governor for the first time in who-knows-how-long, and seems to have a chance of passing this idiotic, blatantly unconstitutional bill through its Republican-controlled (for now) House and Senate.

Beam me up, Scotty. Everything's going crazy here. The end is near (I hope).

11 posted on 03/04/2003 8:51:04 AM PST by newgeezer (If it's not somewhat cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
When our Republic is in the final throes of death, those government apparatchiks will still be shuffling the deckchairs of the Titanic, trying to outlaw guns. Don't they have anything better to do? Damn them all.
16 posted on 03/04/2003 12:43:47 PM PST by TexasRepublic
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