Americans & Wal-Mart

Salisbury Daily Times ^ | Monday, March 3, 2003 | Jim Hopkins -- USA Today

[bert]

You are seriously misinformed.

[HighRoadToChina]

About your nose?

[bert]

but what I am arguing for is boycotting ALL products Made in China

You apparently don't know about all the Americans whose jobs are dependant on goods they make and are sold in China.

[HighRoadToChina]

Like what. List the volume and items of US products sold in Communist China.

[bert]

Well for instance, all the cigarette filters they use are made in USA.

[HighRoadToChina]

Last year the US sold a whopping 22.1 billion worth of goods to Communist China, while Communist China shipped a miniscule $125.1 billion of (slave labor/almost slave labor) products to the US.

The only jobs that you are talking about are the exec's at the Wal-Marts of the world. And that is the only reason why they are there--cheap slave labor.

This 1.2 billion consumer market is a myth that was sold by white shoe salesmen at the turn of the last century.

[discostu]

Well the place to start a boycott is at home. And since you're using a computer YOU'RE A BLEEDING HYPOCRITE! There's no possible way you could have a computer with no parts made in China. Since you can't manage to boycott China I see no reason why I should.

[HP8753]

100 rounds of Federal low base 12 gauge 7 1/2 or 8 shot for
$14....Ya can't beat that unless your reloading your own...And even then just barely if ya are counting your time.

[ForOurFuture]

I try to avoid Wal-Mart. It's gotten nasty. Its customers, compared to the population at-large, are disproportionately loud, dirty, fat, stupid and ugly. The employees tend to be much the same, and in addition are unhelpful. The aisles are unbearably chaotic, crowded, and disorganized. The lines are always long. The parking lot is a jungle. These things tend to not contribute to an enojoyable shopping experience. It feels like visiting white trash town in the middle of trailer park county. And there aren't even any trailer parks around where I live.

[tubebender]

Jobs in America are going to be damn scarce when the first ocean shipping container causes a disaster in a major port and Uncle embargos every ship within a thousand miles of the US.

[HighRoadToChina]

Since we can't save one soul, let them all die. Since we can't do one thing, let's not do anything. Very logical, my friend. You will go a long ways in life.

But hey, this is a free country and I certainly respect your right to do what you will.

[biblewonk]

Too moralistic both right and left? I'm surprised you even responded.

[The Pheonix]

According to an article in Asia-Times Online, last week, cheap goods from China are keeping the INFLATION DOWN here in the US.

The Chinese realise this and are debating on whether to continue to supply cheap cheap goods to us while paying their people peanuts.

The USA pays for Chinese imports by just PRINTING more PAPER CURRENCY

The Chinese re-invest the trade surpluses in US Treasury bills and Bonds, and cannot use the money , anyway

The Chinese Govt is re-assessing the situation to see if it is better to expand the domestic economy by domestic policy RATHER THAN SELLING CHEAP PRODUCTS OVERSEAS

[The Pheonix]

The US could easily reduce the trade deficit by selling China Hi-Tech products

WalMart sources its goods from well over 100 countries around the world

[discostu]

Way to put words in people's mouths. I'm just asking simple answers and pointing out plainly obvious truths:
A - PROVE that WalMart sells more Chinese manufactured stuff than other retailers. You keep stating it but you have provided ZERO facts to support your argument.
B - PROVE that the Chinese really are slave labor, what standard of living does their wages actually provide, how does that compare to the standard of living of other Chinese and American manufacturing labor. Again you keep calling them slave labor and again ZERO proof.
C - Calling for us to boycott ALL Chinese goods from behind your computer made with Chinese parts is HIGH HYPOCRICY.

Stop slandering people and ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. Don't throw in BS red herring that have nothing to do with anything I said and PROVE YOUR ASSERTIONS. Don't tell people to stop using Chinese made kitchen appliance from behind your Chinese made computer parts and expect to not be called on it.

[Protagoras]

Despite the hysterical rantings of some people on this thread (who have their own agenda), Most of the items sold at Wal Mart (and all other large retailers) are not made in China, but in other places all over the world.

Slavery is a term thrown around lightly but never defined by these folks. If you can find a shirt or blouse made entirely of material produced within our borders and assembled entirely here, go buy it. But you will have a hard time finding it. And who the hell would want it? Probably twice the price and produced by union members who protect their franchise at gunpoint if necessary. Who are the slavemasters in that situation?

The idea that people in other countries should starve (for their own good) because some here have their own agendas and want to prevent free trade from happening is morally bankrupt.

[HighRoadToChina]

"Despite the hysterical rantings of some people on this thread (who have their own agenda), Most of the items sold at Wal Mart (and all other large retailers) are not made in China, but in other places all over the world."

Kind of funny that you should say something as stupid as that, because most people would argue that they can't find anything else that is NOT made in Communist China.

[jaysgal]

Last night I looked at some of the labels in my boys clothes that I know were purchased at WalMart. I couldn't find ONE item made in China, Most were made in Mexico. Does that count as slave labor since they don't make $5.15 an hour?
As for Nazi diapers, the first 8-10 mos. of my kids lives they wore cloth diapers. After switching to disposable, it became pretty obvious to me that almost every family in America uses Luvs, Huggies, Pampers or Drypers brands. Even the much lauded mom&pop store down the road sells these brands.

[Protagoras]

No, you argue that. Not most people.

Actually, this whole crusade you are on is nothing but frustration that your whacky ideas garner so little support you feel compelled to harp on it endlessly.

[Protagoras]

The poster is short on facts and long on baseless charges and personal attacks. He figures if he is shrill enough, someone will care. He figures wrong, that's why he lives a life of frustration.